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 Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2012 20:35 Post subject: |
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I suppose it comes down to demand.. when Ivy Bridge was released, the 2500K was still a popular choice and had comparable performance.
Haswell might make more of an impact.
Overall it's inconsistent here as well, with the pricing.
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Dec 2012 21:09 Post subject: |
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Any normal situation waiting would be better I agree(to an extent). but seeing as theres a timelimit on the offer I have on my current set(and upgrading now would only cost me about 100 bucks) I just cant wait till the haswells come out.
still torn between the ivy and sandy bridge though, Will read some more reviews and bench results. as long as I can keep a 3570 with a decent overclock below 70c Ill probably be going for that.
this coolermaster tx3 has the option to add a 2nd fan to it Im pretty sure, just curious if that wouldnt fuck things up(since it would be 3/4 centimers away from my back case exhaust fan). Now the 2nd cpu one would also be exhaust and thus blowing in the same direction. but I remember being told a long time ago that putting 2 fans that close to each other is really bad for the bearings or w/e and they break fast?
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 05:09 Post subject: |
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I'm drunk right now, so my opinion doesnt count but 2500K @ 4.5ghz stock or 3750K @4.3ghz stock is almost equal in performance so get whatever you prefer or is the cheapest. You dont needt the internal gfx anyway. Its not such a difference in everyday usage, get the cheapest one!
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:16 Post subject: |
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I am looking at the 3740K currently. Anything you could tell me about the temp difference between the 2 chips at those speeds?
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:27 Post subject: |
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Temperatures are like 20c higher than on SB.
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:34 Post subject: |
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Temperatures are going to depend alot on the cooling unit you use and the right amount of thermal paste etc.
But generally the 3750K runs hotter than the 2500K. (According to reviews, havent tested myself).
At 4.3Ghz, my 3750K runs as high as 70°C under extreme load (Small FFTs in Prime95). But it will never go higher than 55-60° playing games. It stays around 30° when idle. This is with a Thermalright Macho (fan at 800rpm).
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 12:59 Post subject: |
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Aye they run hotter, something about the IHS not conducting properly if im not mistaken.
just wondering if it can be offset with a decent cooling solutiong, the macho looks top notch at that, and those temps are pretty decent, do they rise quickly if you clock higher?
Anyone with a 2500K that can post their temps at comparible speeds?
What does that Tr macho go for? it looks pretty sweet... just that fan color ugh : /
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 18:31 Post subject: |
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Damn about 20c cooler? why do they make this so hard lol.
thanks for the info couleur
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| Posted: Sat, 29th Dec 2012 22:04 Post subject: |
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my 2500K at 4.5Ghz only reaches 70C when doing prime95 torture test. normal gaming / 3d rendering activities it's 50-60C.
air cooler Thermalright True Spirit 120
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2013 19:55 Post subject: Re: Upgrading from a first gen i5 , need some advice |
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| Badrien wrote: |
2500K (really only way to go I hear)
along with a
Asrock Z77 Pro4 (I want a board with 2 pci-e lanes, this one seems very nice, decent features decent overclocking with unlocked multiplier for a very decent price)
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Ok didn't want to start a new thread and it's relative to Badrien's setup so...
I have no idea what type of memory i would need for this setup. I know it's DDR3 but that's as far as my knowledge goes!
I will be wanting to overclock the 2500k if that makes any difference in memory choice. Possibly the cheaper the better if the performance difference isn't that great between them.
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jan 2013 20:02 Post subject: Re: Upgrading from a first gen i5 , need some advice |
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| Grale wrote: | | Badrien wrote: |
2500K (really only way to go I hear)
along with a
Asrock Z77 Pro4 (I want a board with 2 pci-e lanes, this one seems very nice, decent features decent overclocking with unlocked multiplier for a very decent price)
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Ok didn't want to start a new thread and it's relative to Badrien's setup so...
I have no idea what type of memory i would need for this setup. I know it's DDR3 but that's as far as my knowledge goes!
I will be wanting to overclock the 2500k if that makes any difference in memory choice. Possibly the cheaper the better if the performance difference isn't that great between them. |
You can basicly buy any memory and not having to worry about it affecting your overclocking.
If you want cool looks then G.Skill Ripjaws X are at pretty good price, something along the lines of 40€ for the 8GB Kit.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 05:10 Post subject: |
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my 3570k on stock speeds with stock cooler on ambient temp -4 to 10C (opened window for smoking) is going to 67C on full load, what temps i can expect when summer arrives,?!
really considering about evo 212 or i30 in a few months.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 03:02 Post subject: |
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ok so the upgrade gonna happen thats for sure. Guy who put out an offer on my 1156 set doestn mind waiting another 2 weeks so that end is taken care off.
Still not 100% sure what exactly to go for though.
currently thinking of
asrock z77: edit neverming
the asrock z77 doesnt seem to support SLI, only crossfire. Appears for sli the other slots need to support x8. Anyone know a z77 board that overclocks well around the same price range as this one?(100 euros)
still not a 100% sure on the 2500K or the 3570K. I will be buying a new cooler though so think I might as well go for the 3570. any reccomendations on affodrable coolers thatll do well on the 3570? preferably running a lil cooler than the TM macho.
the cpu and the mobo will be around 300 euros added together. that leaves about 40ish for a cooler.
thanks for all the advice so far =)
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 07:50 Post subject: |
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There is no boards available for 100 euros that support SLI. Generally they are more expensiver than CF boards. Z77 Extreme 4 would be best choice (very good for its price), around 140 euros tho :/.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 08:20 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | There is no boards available for 100 euros that support SLI. Generally they are more expensiver than CF boards. Z77 Extreme 4 would be best choice (very good for its price), around 140 euros tho :/. |
was afraid of that. Will i be able to use a dedicated physx card with a crossfire board or do I need the sli board to use 2 nvidia cards by default?
the extreme 4 is 122 euros here, so doable I guess, really cant go any higher though. The extreme 4 better than the pro 4? and how do both of those compare to a Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H or is that one crap?(Local retailer has it)
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Jan 2013 08:30 Post subject: |
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Extreme 4 has much better VRMs than Pro 4. In other words its more suitable for overclocking. Dunno about that Gigabyte board (for that price it should be good). I would still get the Asrock board, especially for 122 euros.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 03:53 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | There is no boards available for 100 euros that support SLI. |
And that's because nVidia requires motherboard makers to license the right to SLI-certify the motherboards they sell, increasing the cost for each board sold. That's why there are boards with two PCIe-8/16 ports that don't support SLI. AMD have no such license fee for motherboard makers. SLI-support is generally reserved for mid-high range boards and then we're talking 150-200.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 07:36 Post subject: |
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So all I need now is a cpu cooler that will keep this at <70 overclocked without too much noise around the 40 euro pricerange xD if that exists
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 11:04 Post subject: |
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| Badrien wrote: | | So all I need now is a cpu cooler that will keep this at <70 overclocked without too much noise around the 40 euro pricerange xD if that exists |
I posted above that the Thermalright TrueSpirit is propably the best bang for buck you can get atm, only costs around ~25€ and beats a lot of other expensive coolers in testing.
Add a second fan to it and you got a monster cooler considering the price of it.
Highest temps I get in IBT are 89C at 5GHz/1.46V
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