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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2005 12:01    Post subject:
FakeBitchKillah.inc wrote:


yes and thats because the group wright in their infos:

if u like it buy it, we did !!!


Well they didnt.
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Aug 2005 20:06    Post subject:
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think some of the groups buy them to release them !!


SceneLeader wrote:

Hardly, most of them know emplyees working at game stores, whom supply them games.


in witch world do you live? 90% of all Game releases (Clones included) arrive after the retail store date. Why do you think it is that way? Scene grps buy and pay for the games since 1998 when First big group PARADiGM got busted for using mags and employees to supply pre store. Check ebgames.com shipping day and release day of the games for usa games f.e. all releases mainly arrive as clone and/or as cracked release after that day! The time of mag - suppliers and employees is mostly over as there are maybe 1 or 2 ppl only left that risc their jobs for such stuff and game mags get only preretail versions or versions that are personaliced.
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SceneLeader
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 03:17    Post subject:
well, then they must have money to burn, i sure as hell wouldn't waste my money on crap games like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Martin Mystere : Operation Dorian Gray, C64 Classix, Yetisports Arctic Adventures.
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 11:44    Post subject:
SceneLeader wrote:
well, then they must have money to burn, i sure as hell wouldn't waste my money on crap games like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Martin Mystere : Operation Dorian Gray, C64 Classix, Yetisports Arctic Adventures.


Well some groups sell to pay and get busted (MYTH+HLM/FLT/...) and some just take it and loose the titles they dont want to buy (RLD/PCGAME/...)

But when you sell to repay games the history shows your soon or late busted anyway and i guess thats a reason why you dont see so much RLD or PCGAME games in summer. Only 1 big title i await this month
Dungeon Siege 2 - ebgames.com/ebx/product/241758.asp where i expect the bigger groups back. Panzers 2 and Worms Mayhem are Starforce DVDs so i dont expect them cracked soon.

Panzers has 3 7.0 to 9.0 mb protect.dll's
Worms a 23.0 MB one

so its same as splinter cell, just dont wait for it Smile.
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Brisk




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 11:57    Post subject:
Freakshow wrote:


Well some groups sell to pay and get busted (MYTH+HLM/FLT/...) and some just take it and loose the titles they dont want to buy (RLD/PCGAME/...)


PCGAME Confused .... they did 2 iso releases (1 nuked / 1 no protection)........ so they loosed everything exept of those 2 Wink
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 12:57    Post subject:
BRISK#1 wrote:
Freakshow wrote:


Well some groups sell to pay and get busted (MYTH+HLM/FLT/...) and some just take it and loose the titles they dont want to buy (RLD/PCGAME/...)


PCGAME Confused .... they did 2 iso releases (1 nuked / 1 no protection)........ so they loosed everything exept of those 2 Wink


Just look at the bust press releases from flt bust and myth/hlm bust.

FLT owned close to everything => got busted for selling slots/games and what ever to asia and in usa => result deviance/myth got number 1.
DEViANCE lost some ppl that founded RLD (according to a HLM/MYTH nfo) and the rest of the group joined Vengance later on they joined/overtook HLM and builded a new strong team of supply and cracking when some parts of HLM founded Vitality (accroding to HLM leadership) and then MYTH/HLM (some of them) got busted for selling slots to ppl in usa / uk / russia / germany and where ever.
Now this Vitality reopened with some HLM (RECOIL) ppl (accroding to some not busted HLM members) DEViANCE (easy seeable if you look at the DEViANCE cracks, the cracker(s) is/are identical to the Vitality one - use of same tags as in Vitality) and they start to own again => guess where it will end?!

How stupid can you be to reopen a grp that was back in time affiliated with the hunted group MYTH since MYTH got founded from a busted group PARADiGM and ORIGIN accrding to MYTH.nfo's at the beginning!

When RLD/PCGAME/NOGRP loose titles its normal as they seem to not sell to earn the money to buy every game like FLT/DEVIANCE/HLM did in the past.
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deptalon




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 14:46    Post subject:
and you believe yourself ?


Proud Member of the Nforce communitee *shrugs*
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lAmBaDa




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 19:09    Post subject:
Arcade77 wrote:
also a nforce member would also ever know whats going on in iso scene , thats why the most "scene related"

u would be very surprised

if u spend whole day playing Worms like games that doesn't mean all the members do the same. dont tell the people what do they know (or what do they not know) only because u know nothing about the topics in scene related thread

no one pretends here to be a scener but some people are close to the scene so please leave and go back to Games Arena to comment furthcomming Worms release. many kids are waiting for ur important posts in the right place, Games Arena (or console, that would fit you, wouldnt it?).

do us a favour and cry somewhere else
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IpwnU
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 19:20    Post subject:
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also a nforce member would also ever know whats going on in iso scene , thats why the most "scene related"


no dude only LamBadA does the others are jus into bigbrother complaints noobs faqs terrorist are coming , topics Sad Sad Sad

and lambada take him to your kindergarten
which u left 1 year ago
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lAmBaDa




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 19:50    Post subject:
IpwnU wrote:
Quote:
also a nforce member would also ever know whats going on in iso scene , thats why the most "scene related"


no dude only LamBadA does the others are jus into bigbrother complaints noobs faqs terrorist are coming , topics Sad Sad Sad

and lambada take him to your kindergarten
which u left 1 year ago

seems IpwnU, the gay leader, is back.....

oh man, i thought u left for good but u came back to post another useless and off-topic crap, like always
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IpwnU
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Aug 2005 20:40    Post subject:
hahaha i adore your posts man
they make me feel good and make me laugh at the same time
cuz after reading em
i say
thank god im not retard like him
rofl
u kno what u must have a tv show dude u will make every1 laugh
i want ppl to see your talent
glad to see ya
gaybada Very Happy
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Brisk




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 08:11    Post subject:
Arcade77 wrote:
sure he will do , because nforce members are involved in scene and therefor know whats going on in the grps who are there crackers witch grp is witch grp now and so on roflmao its so funny in here , i really think some ppl here really think they are knowing whats going on. iso/rip scene members that hang out on nforce sure rofl omfg god give them brains pls.

btw i only regged here to give a reply to special lol posts whats really not hard to find in here.

didnt say that i am involved in scene because i am not a dreamer but also everyone with a normal brain who could think realistic knows that no iso scener are on nforce and also a nforce member would also ever know whats going on in iso scene , thats why the most "scene related" posts are to funny where everyone means to know whats going on.

anyway keep it up those great storys on nforce without them i wouldnt have so much fun.



You are so right, scene members don't visit NFOrce.... they use ISOnews (that's the orange ......) Laughing
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 14:30    Post subject:
an Russian starforce copy tool seem to have been leaked dunno if its an real tool it might even be fake but it seems real.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=89521#post1079569
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 22:54    Post subject:
Shit, only tutorials are in russian and spanish and wont be translated it said on that board due to legal reasons or something
dont wanna get into shit

SOOOO....anyone speak fluent russian or spanish on here? Smile


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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 23:18    Post subject:
I've d/l the sfcopy.rar file from the url given in cdfreaks.com but it needs
a password.

Anyone knows it ?? Question Question
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spankie
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 01:40    Post subject:
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well, then they must have money to burn, i sure as hell wouldn't waste my money on crap games like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Martin Mystere : Operation Dorian Gray, C64 Classix, Yetisports Arctic Adventures.


Working in a pc shop is not the same as working in a developers company.

follow me:
i work in shop, i take 1 copy home, i copy, i return to shop, no one knows.

And now you will say, but then you will sell less and kill your own shop.

No, if you dont do it, another guy will do it. Smile
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adaml75




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 02:08    Post subject:
I speak both Russian and Spanish. But there is no real info in linked thread on CDFreaks in either. Only empty promises (in English).
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 06:33    Post subject:
bill_the_one wrote:
I've d/l the sfcopy.rar file from the url given in cdfreaks.com but it needs
a password.

Anyone knows it ?? Question Question


haha they put an password on the rar file now ,I stil have the version without the password.. wel so probably tool is real.. otherwise I see no reason why suddenly put an password on it.
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 10:35    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:

haha they put an password on the rar file now ,I stil have the version without the password.. wel so probably tool is real.. otherwise I see no reason why suddenly put an password on it.


Tool is real and it is the tool developed with parts of cdsteam to make proper copies of sf3 protected CDs (not DVDs) but as none of you all know, the importants part (the log - tool to create the config file) does not exist in the rar so for 90% of ppl here its useless anyway as you know the tool is specific for

* CDR media (Verbatim its tested and the cheap series of Verbatim work too)
* CDR drive (PLEXTOR its tested on, LG it should work, YAMAHA work too as tested drives)
* game (works on all CD titles, doesnt work on all DVD titles)

so without the log tool you dont get a proper config to create the tool. If you understand how sf3 works you can get missing knowledge from a cfg file to create your own log tool but most ppl are clueless here anway as they only cry for the crack or the copy but do not even research why they need.

good luck while using it!
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 11:48    Post subject:
I am not going to hassle around with it cost to much time to find out how it works ,and only works for cd.. new games come on dvd..
but with bustrace it should be possible to log some interesting information Smile
and besides deamon tools v4 is going to kick starforce arse soon enough..
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 12:28    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
I am not going to hassle around with it cost to much time to find out how it works ,and only works for cd.. new games come on dvd..
but with bustrace it should be possible to log some interesting information Smile
and besides deamon tools v4 is going to kick starforce arse soon enough..


Bustrace is sure a cool tool but i dont think a scener can buy it and i dont see a release of it Smile. Once released its for sure the nr1 tool scene will use to crack protections like cdcops, sf3, tages, protectCD. Lets see if some1 will crack/buy the usb dongle.

And just as info - DT4 beta + Worms Mayhem uk version = nogo yet.
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FakeBitchKillah.inc




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 12:33    Post subject:
thats not good

Sad


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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 12:42    Post subject:
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And just as info - DT4 beta + Worms Mayhem uk version = nogo yet.


how do you know do you have DT4 beta


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Kondor




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 12:46    Post subject:
Price tag of lovely $1,100 for Bustrace 5.0 sure is ... ummm... nice... Sad
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 12:46    Post subject:
jaapie18 wrote:


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And just as info - DT4 beta + Worms Mayhem uk version = nogo yet.


how do you know do you have DT4 beta


no but i have a close to 4 beta which uses the same sf3 emulating then v4 use (it didnt got updated from my beta to v4) and it doesnt work anymore. It works though for every game till worms mayhem if this is a good news but since the new drivers in worms mayhem it doesnt here anymore.
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 12:50    Post subject:
Kondor wrote:
Price tag of lovely $1,100 for Bustrace 5.0 sure is ... ummm... nice... Sad


Like i said i dont think sceneres are rich enough to buy it if they dont sell their souls and a tool like bustrace can be coded by urself and is better cause bustrace will be blacklisted as soon as a cracked version exist. SF3 coders arent dumb and know all tools that could make sf3 cracking easier esp since they know ultima uses bustrace.
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Kondor




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 13:13    Post subject:
Pretty much a good point... I often stand behind open knowledge, but in my personal quest against SF3 I am willing to ignore my beliefs... SF3 dev team seems pretty active and implements constant changes to their protection (just for the price they charge publishers, they better be) as different information on how their protection got cracked gets leaked to public. Only way to safely fight SF3, seems to find ways of cracking it and continuously crack games as fast as possible without disclosing too much info about methods used... As devs will continue to guess onto how their protection is circumvented, we can just hope that they will implement strict measures (in desperation) which will create more technical problems for most users, enough to make publishers think before using StarForce.

Anyway, so DT4+worms4 = no go? Sad Not surprising. Sad
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jaapie18




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 13:16    Post subject:
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no but i have a close to 4 beta which uses the same sf3 emulating then v4 use (it didnt got updated from my beta to v4) and it doesnt work anymore. It works though for every game till worms mayhem if this is a good news but since the new drivers in worms mayhem it doesnt here anymore.


maybe it work in dt4 final then. I hope they will update often when starforce update
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Freakshow




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 13:18    Post subject:
Kondor wrote:
Pretty much a good point... I often stand behind open knowledge, but in my personal quest against SF3 I am willing to ignore my beliefs... SF3 dev team seems pretty active and implements constant changes to their protection (just for the price they charge publishers, they better be) as different information on how their protection got cracked gets leaked to public. Only way to safely fight SF3, seems to find ways of cracking it and continuously crack games as fast as possible without disclosing too much info about methods used... As devs will continue to guess onto how their protection is circumvented, we can just hope that they will implement strict measures (in desperation) which will create more technical problems for most users, enough to make publishers think before using StarForce.

Anyway, so DT4+worms4 = no go? Sad Not surprising. Sad


They will always find a way but maybe they have to leave the ring0 checks and have to return to ring3 protection. We will see. In new beta windows ring0 is not allowed for sf3 drivers so it doesnt work there.
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highstuff




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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 14:49    Post subject:
jaapie18 wrote:
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no but i have a close to 4 beta which uses the same sf3 emulating then v4 use (it didnt got updated from my beta to v4) and it doesnt work anymore. It works though for every game till worms mayhem if this is a good news but since the new drivers in worms mayhem it doesnt here anymore.


maybe it work in dt4 final then. I hope they will update often when starforce update


Theire will be no new sf nightmare they gave theire knowlegde to the deamon team .so chances are high that all sf3 game will work in the final version . also has the new Deamon tool V4 some sort of VM . is not so easy to anaylize anymore . Razz
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