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after playing for a while i dont see a point in making BGEE. GOG version works flawlessly, can be modded to death, modders made lots of additional content, you can set resolution to whatever you want etc etc. I dont see the point in zoom function really, it was designed in mobile/tablets in mind where you will probably can pinch zoom for better accuracy, on pc its pointless as zooming decreases quality of gfx in this game.
and most important - 30fps hard locks makes the game completely unplayable for me, i`ve played vanilla bg/icwd/bg2 and any other infinity engine game with 60 fps when it was possible, looking how slow everything moves on 30 is annoying as fuck
btw yesterday i`ve played multi for few hours only to find out that game absolutly STOPS WORKING when we went to sleep in the inn where you meet khalid and jahiera for the 1st time. We tried everything and it just locks, like in endless pause mode, even if all characters were controlled by one player.
btw2 Interinactive thanks for the link 
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2012 14:50 Post subject: |
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This enhanced edition is mainly for tablets and other devices, remyleblau. You're right, for the PC you would be better of with any vanilla version and all the countless mods that already exist. (tutu etc..)
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SpY_RoS
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 09:42 Post subject: |
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I don't find this smooth at all, I frequently get little bits of frame lag. Not frequently..but in an hour or two play session usually 2-3 times.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 10:32 Post subject: |
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Heavily modded vanilla is way better, so just stop it. We all know that you are Overhaul agents sent to infiltrate the more resilient forums.
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SpY_RoS
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 10:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 11:14 Post subject: |
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I doubt they work for Overhaul (given that they only employ like 6 people or something), but there are certainly a few people here loving the taste of Oster's cock.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 11:37 Post subject: |
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SpY_RoS
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 18:03 Post subject: |
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The EE's fans seem to be repeatedly bringing up GOG. There's nothing particularly special about it, beyond being the easiest way to go get a copy of the game, as well as (usually) the cheapest, during the half-price Xmas sale. I haven't seen any sort of fanboyism in this thread specifically directed at GOG. People have merely expressed a preference for the original version of the game, and as I said GOG is just the easiest place to get it.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 18:27 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | The EE's fans seem to be repeatedly bringing up GOG. There's nothing particularly special about it, beyond being the easiest way to go get a copy of the game, as well as (usually) the cheapest, during the half-price Xmas sale. I haven't seen any sort of fanboyism in this thread specifically directed at GOG. People have merely expressed a preference for the original version of the game, and as I said GOG is just the easiest place to get it. |
Why would one buy Baldurs Gate on GOG? You get piss poor digital copy, no manual, no cds, no map. As I said before, if you really want to BUY original, find a used copy.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 19:35 Post subject: |
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Presumably the EE is a piss-poor digital copy as well then. You get digital copies of manuals and maps with both the original on GOG and the EE. If you are that keen on paper manuals and a cloth map (I never understood the attraction myself), the original is the only one that provides currently, assuming you can track down an intact copy.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 20:02 Post subject: |
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Finding BG games is either very hard or pricey here, most of the time it's both. There are used copies to be found for a reasonable price, but I wouldn't want a half chewed up box (pets I assume). So 10 bucks for a digital "piss-poor" version is pretty good. I personally just pirate it if I feel like playing.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 20:10 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 03:45; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 20:41 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | DCB wrote: | | Presumably the EE is a piss-poor digital copy as well then. You get digital copies of manuals and maps with both the original on GOG and the EE. If you are that keen on paper manuals and a cloth map (I never understood the attraction myself), the original is the only one that provides currently, assuming you can track down an intact copy. |
Do people realise how many laptops are now only configured with those? Intel Ivy/sandy bridge 3000/4000 chips are capable of running a lot of games |
Directx games, definitely. OpenGL games? That's where things go to shit.
Many games are affected by similar issues, Intel just doesn't have good support for OpenGL. It's up to developers to fix what Intel won't fix. One of the easiest solution is often to simply make a DX renderer, but sometime it's possible to find workarounds.
What does suck, and where the people at Overhaul definitely did fail, is by not communicating this MUCH earlier. They announced this only the day before release. That's not enough time. People should know at least 1-2 months before release. It shouldn't come as a surprise right as the game is released.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 20:46 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | Presumably the EE is a piss-poor digital copy as well then. You get digital copies of manuals and maps with both the original on GOG and the EE. If you are that keen on paper manuals and a cloth map (I never understood the attraction myself), the original is the only one that provides currently, assuming you can track down an intact copy. |
nicee 
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 21:15 Post subject: |
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| Kanint wrote: | | Many games are affected by similar issues, Intel just doesn't have good support for OpenGL. It's up to developers to fix what Intel won't fix. One of the easiest solution is often to simply make a DX renderer, but sometime it's possible to find workarounds. |
Actually Intel is aware of this and it seems that they are fixing it, two new drivers were released in past two months improving OpenGL performance.
From the release notes:
"OpenGL stack has been tuned and users can observe improved performance in certain OpenGL games compared to drivers older than 15.28.7.2867"
From the changelog:
* Doom 3 BFG game no longer fails to launch
* Resolved corruption issue when running some OpenGL programs in full screen mode
etc
So things are moving to the right direction, slowly but steady. I tried BGEE today on my Intel HD 3000 and the latest drivers, works fine.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 21:26 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: |
Actually Intel is aware of this and it seems that they are fixing it, two new drivers were released in past two months improving OpenGL performance.
From the release notes:
"OpenGL stack has been tuned and users can observe improved performance in certain OpenGL games compared to drivers older than 15.28.7.2867"
From the changelog:
* Doom 3 BFG game no longer fails to launch
* Resolved corruption issue when running some OpenGL programs in full screen mode
etc
So things are moving to the right direction, slowly but steady. I tried BGEE today on my Intel HD 3000 and the latest drivers, works fine. |
Thanks, it's good to know that Intel has started working on it. It'll be great if they keep improving on it.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 21:48 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Interinactive on Tue, 5th Oct 2021 03:45; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 22:59 Post subject: |
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| DCB wrote: | | Presumably the EE is a piss-poor digital copy as well then. You get digital copies of manuals and maps with both the original on GOG and the EE. If you are that keen on paper manuals and a cloth map (I never understood the attraction myself), the original is the only one that provides currently, assuming you can track down an intact copy. |
Hey, you are the one advising people to buy GOG version over EE. I'm talking about what's best for players. I really see no benefit for them in buying GOG. Noone from the developing team of BG1 will see the money spent on that version, and it will have absolutely no impact on the game, it is the same thing as finding a torrent of BG1. EE is different in that aspect, but I still really don't care if you deem job made by them worth money. You don't like it, you don't play it. You don't like it enough, you pirate it.
What I'm really curious about is knowing your reasons for advising people to buy GOG version?
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 23:22 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: |
I know it works though, I found my own workaround so performance isn't a problem - it's their shitty work that's breaking it. If I make my own baldur.ini file I can make it launch, if I use theirs that the game creates then it crashes |
When you say make your own .ini file, you mean editing the original file or making a completely new one?
Do you see a difference in the options shown in your .ini file, compared to the original one?
I know of one .ini fix for intel issues (downgrading the opengl renderer to a lower version) but I'm curious as to how you fixed your problem since it could help others.
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 23:42 Post subject: |
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hmm strange
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Dec 2012 23:58 Post subject: c |
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crossmr
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Dec 2012 01:00 Post subject: |
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rep buying broken?
According to an old BG chart, rep 4, needs 200 gold to go up a point. I went in to a church as a soldier went nuts on me and I lost rep, and donated 400 gp and still didn't get a rep point. wtf?
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| Posted: Mon, 3rd Dec 2012 01:17 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | I posted a thread on the support forums, not that many people took notice
Basically I deleted everything inside, set it to launch in a window ( then I just just change it to full screen once it's open). I then run Vista SP1 compatibility mode on BGEE.exe (not baldur.exe) and run as admin
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It's possible that some settings are not enabled if the ini is blank, possibly stuff like Hardware Acceleration. It could explain why the game doesn't run into issues when you do things that way.
This could potentially help them get closer to the specific settings/effects that are not supported very well (for now) by Intel, so I'm gonna send them your instructions just in case they didn't see your thread.
| crossmr wrote: | rep buying broken?
According to an old BG chart, rep 4, needs 200 gold to go up a point. I went in to a church as a soldier went nuts on me and I lost rep, and donated 400 gp and still didn't get a rep point. wtf? |
The cost is high if you are very low or very high in reputation and low in the middle.
Rep 4, +1 rep (1000g)
Rep 5, +1 rep (500)
Rep 6 is 400g, Rep 7 is 200g.
You can see the table in BGEE's manual "Mastering Melee and Magic". Look for "Effects of Reputation and Alignement." (Rank 13 and 14 are inaccurate)
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