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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 15:08 Post subject: |
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Ah, sorry. I was thinking of EasyTutu rather than the vanilla version - http://usoutpost31.com/easytutu/ Try that instead.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 16:01 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | Here's my install with the widescreen mod
http://www.coflash.com/stuff/bg.png
It looks fuckin' crisp.
Has anyone got anything remotely close to that from the EE version? |
Farther away you are, crisper it is.
Just be careful with how high you go in resolution : higher is crisper, but can be annoying when playing due to being too far or make it harder to see small details.
It's a matter of preference tho, personally I liked 1600x900 to stay relatively close to the action while still benefiting from seeing more of the area.
To compare with EE : it doesn't zoom out as much, it stays closer to the character.
Here's a small comparison from both games based on your screen :
http://i.imgur.com/deFDp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DqU6z.jpg
Main differences are brighter colors and a slight blur.
When playing in fullscreen, your game would look crisper due to being much farther away.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 16:18 Post subject: |
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| Kanint wrote: | | Interinactive wrote: | Here's my install with the widescreen mod
http://www.coflash.com/stuff/bg.png
It looks fuckin' crisp.
Has anyone got anything remotely close to that from the EE version? |
Farther away you are, crisper it is.
Just be careful with how high you go in resolution : higher is crisper, but can be annoying when playing due to being too far or make it harder to see small details.
It's a matter of preference tho, personally I liked 1600x900 to stay relatively close to the action while still benefiting from seeing more of the area.
To compare with EE : it doesn't zoom out as much, it stays closer to the character.
Here's a small comparison from both games based on your screen :
http://i.imgur.com/deFDp.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DqU6z.jpg
Main differences are brighter colors and a slight blur.
When playing in fullscreen, your game would look crisper due to being much farther away. |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 16:58 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | Here's my install with the widescreen mod
http://www.coflash.com/stuff/bg.png
It looks fuckin' crisp.
Has anyone got anything remotely close to that from the EE version? |
Haha, that looks so much better than what ixi posted from EE. What the fuck have they enhanced exactly?!
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 17:04 Post subject: |
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| SpY_RoS wrote: | The E.E. is way more nice than the screen of the mod with it's small animation, text and so.
The interface, the journal etc, fits way better than the old one.
And the zoom feature is very important. Totaly the E.E. is better than the GOGs version.
It's a real same that people try to convince us that what our eye see isn't the true and the milk is black.  |
Are you physically capable of reading or saying anything negative about any game? Doesn't seem so |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 18:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 18:41 Post subject: |
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The journal boys, the journal! I love my megamodded BG Trilogy, but BG:EE is a good product. Gog version is just the old 1998 game repackaged into a neat installer, nothing more.
en·hance (n-hns)
tr.v. en·hanced, en·hanc·ing, en·hanc·es
1. To make greater, as in value, beauty, or effectiveness; augment.
2. To provide with improved, advanced, or sophisticated features:
It has an improved journal (do you even remember the one from BG 1? I do, it was a mess), inventory screen, new renderer ( no more need for app compatibility kit for nvidia users), several changes to a 14 year old engine.
I hate the UI and zoom though. Hate it, hate it, hate it. It's waay to clunky.
| sin317 wrote: |
typical jew comment
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 18:43 Post subject: |
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| Bendi wrote: | The journal boys, the journal! I love my megamodded BG Trilogy, but BG:EE is a good product. Gog version is just the old 1998 game repackaged into a neat installer, nothing more.
en·hance (n-hns)
tr.v. en·hanced, en·hanc·ing, en·hanc·es
1. To make greater, as in value, beauty, or effectiveness; augment.
2. To provide with improved, advanced, or sophisticated features:
It has an improved journal (do you even remember the one from BG 1? I do, it was a mess), inventory screen, new renderer ( no more need for app compatibility kit for nvidia users), several changes to a 14 year old engine.
I hate the UI and zoom though. Hate it, hate it, hate it. It's waay to clunky. |
The new renderer is a piece of crap. I could run the infinity engine games on any crap computer and they would run flawless... this EE edition? not so much. It was a step back performance wise with no return in terms of fidelity.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 19:47 Post subject: |
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| Kem0sabe wrote: |
The new renderer is a piece of crap. I could run the infinity engine games on any crap computer and they would run flawless... this EE edition? not so much. It was a step back performance wise with no return in terms of fidelity. |
Considering all the compatibility issues involved, I'd actually be very surprised if you could make IE games run flawlessly on any crap computers. Even making them run with some features disabled can sometime be a pain in the ass and require a bunch of workarounds (leading to worse performance).
In regard to performance : EE keeps my CPU usage around 1-2% and uses so little of my GPU that it actually stays in power-saving mode (it only wakes up during spells intensive scenes, even then usage is very low). I also don't get the random stutters or slowdowns associated with the old engine.
If you get bad performance, it's most likely an error and needs fixed. You can make the developers aware of this or wait for patches. At the moment, I know of one big reason behind bad performance (or crashes) with the game and it's due to playing the game with Intel integrated graphics. They have horrible support for OpenGL, it's the cause of issues in many games. They're looking into solutions to help the situation, especially since Intel has no intention of fixing their own issues. They do offer temporary solutions for now.
(Note : "no return in terms of fidelity" is not quite true. Some effects were improved, spells show this.)
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 21:11 Post subject: |
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Performance issues ?
The game runs perfect in my win 7/64 laptop.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 21:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 21:49 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:07 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:23 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | I found a better comparison shot. Here's mine, here's BGEE
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What this shows is what has been said before : the farther you are, the better it looks. The closer you are, the worse it looks.
My comparison was aimed at removing that difference and making a clear 1:1 comparison in picture quality. To see how the games compare when you remove the zoom from the equation and look only at how they render. It shows that at similar size, the difference is very small.
I did say that the modded version can look better by being able to zoom out a great distance. My exact quote :
"When playing in fullscreen, your game would look crisper due to being much farther away" - That much doesn't change.
(Note : I agree on much of the rest. UI isn't very good, should be downsized. Not worth 20$ right now, possibly later. Visual improvements in particular will be added.)
| pete89 wrote: | In this topic we have a flood of GOGs lovers. 
They are trying to trash the BG EE because, ιf this project terms to be successful, there will be more remakes of good old games, real and not fake like GOGs moneygrabber semi non working crap.
And this will heart their beloved GOG because every sane person will prefere to grab the real remake and not the shity GOG shit.
The Wankers that crying like old whores "what a trash the BG EE - The moded version of GOGs is smooth and clean like dwarven ass" and bullshit like this can suck a Mucky dwarven cock. |
Wut.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:42 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | I found a better comparison shot. Here's mine, here's BGEE
On my PC I use 1920 x 1080, and I set my laptop up for 1440x900 (even though it has a 2560x1600 native res).
I bought the damn thing, if I actually thought EE was better I'd say so, I really don't think it's better at all. If I hadn't used the WS mod before I might have thought so
| SpY_RoS wrote: | | The E.E. is way more nice than the screen of the mod with it's small animation, text and so. |
How? It's like playing with vaseline on your eyes, or like playing GTAIV without the definition setting on. You can change the text size too, I preferred not to
| Quote: | | The interface, the journal etc, fits way better than the old one. |
This might be an issue for tablets, but not for PC with a mouse + KB shortcuts. Again too, the interface is as blurry as hell.
| Quote: | | And the zoom feature is very important. Totaly the E.E. is better than the GOGs version. |
Important for what?
Whatever you prefer though, I just don't get it. With the GOG version you can change whatever you like, to whatever size, and it's still crisp. Good luck making all those sort of changes with that "fullscreen" graphics option.
It ain't worth $20 either. |
Wait, you bought it??? 
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 22:56 Post subject: |
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Not that I want to play Baldurs Gate again at this time (played it to death) but the zoom feature sounds nice on the EE. BG looks like crap when you play in 1920x1080, as everything gets so microscopically small.
Did they add any epic items/equipment?
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 23:21 Post subject: |
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| W123 wrote: | Not that I want to play Baldurs Gate again at this time (played it to death) but the zoom feature sounds nice on the EE. BG looks like crap when you play in 1920x1080, as everything gets so microscopically small.
Did they add any epic items/equipment? |
No not anything better from what ive seen - you do get some magical items quicker in the game tho. So its just more balanced and now you dont have to wait a million years for some of the more exotic weapons.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 23:26 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | You quote a post explaining that I bought it, asking if I bought it
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
It was, ehm... rhetorical question. You moaned about this remake from the start, then you went and bought it, and went back to moaning.
You have to admit that's a bit funny, even I that thought there is nothing wrong with it went for a skidrow version at first.
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 23:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 30th Nov 2012 23:49 Post subject: |
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| W123 wrote: | Not that I want to play Baldurs Gate again at this time (played it to death) but the zoom feature sounds nice on the EE. BG looks like crap when you play in 1920x1080, as everything gets so microscopically small.
Did they add any epic items/equipment? |
They mentioned trying to balance the distribution of items (types) but I haven't seen much info on it.
Edit for UI mod :
Someone made a quick attempt at modding the UI to make it look like the old one.
http://www.shsforums.net/topic/55547-classic-gameplay-windows-for-bgee-10/page__fromsearch__1
It currently only changes the UI you see while controlling your characters. Modding the full UI could take a while (the amount of screens to change is higher than it looks), but this shows that it's not too hard to do.
(To install : Extract everything in Override folder.)
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Dec 2012 02:00 Post subject: |
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Yes! They made something we don't particularly like, but it CAN be fixed (maybe they'll even do it themselves if that restrictive contract let's them). You CAN'T do it with the original/gog version cause it's hardcoded in the .exe. Heck, there was so much stuff hardcoded it's ridiculous. Movies, some rulesets, UI...the same with Fallout ( in F2 Arroyo map always had to be loaded first, and the dream sequences would play every time )
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but plz tell me how did u set this all up and what mods did u used?
