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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:45    Post subject:
Jonhy wrote:
MinderMast wrote:
Jonhy wrote:
What's the point of buying this game from GMG? You can't activate it on steam since it is a Uplay key and this "great" ubi client doesn't even allow you to download the game but you need to use capsule instead... Rolling Eyes

Unless you buy directly from Steam, you will get a Uplay key anyway. You can use some release, which will likely be available sooner than Uplay or GMG installers to install the game.

I'd love to have the game on Steam myself, but when the difference is 32€ vs 60€, I am willing to reconsider Smile


I know, but i mean what's the advantage of buying this game instead of using the isodemo? Smile When it would had used steamworks and thus the options to download the game in steam and use steam cloud to store the save games i would have bought it, but now... Sad

Well... you can use Uplay to download it and use its cloud store Smile
Not a fan of having games spread out all over, but since I already have Uplay account with some games anyway, it's a bit less of an issue.
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:51    Post subject:
Well according to gmg you will need capsule to download it:
Quote:

Capsule Client : This title requires Capsule to download
UPlay Client: UPlay required to play.

But i agree, i also want to have just one central place for all the games that i own. So guess i will go for the isodemo or maybe buy it from steam when i find some place which sells steam keys Smile
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breeze1




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:52    Post subject:
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I know, but i mean what's the advantage of buying this game instead of using the isodemo?
ehh multiplayer?
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:54    Post subject:
Thats true mate, but only the SP part is important for me in this game Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:55    Post subject:
Jonhy wrote:
Thats true mate, but only the SP part is important for me in this game Very Happy




me to Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:57    Post subject:
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:57    Post subject:
Jonhy wrote:
Well according to gmg you will need capsule to download it:
Quote:

Capsule Client : This title requires Capsule to download
UPlay Client: UPlay required to play.


This is because Ubi has a stupid system where the game is only activated and added to Uplay during/after the installation process, so you need to get an installer from somewhere at first. Doesn't have to be Capsule, but they will provide it.
Once you have installed and activated it, you will be able to re-download it form Uplay whenever you want.
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breeze1




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 15:59    Post subject:
Any news on co-op then? Offline lan available? (I couldnt care less about online either)
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:01    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
Jonhy wrote:
Well according to gmg you will need capsule to download it:
Quote:

Capsule Client : This title requires Capsule to download
UPlay Client: UPlay required to play.


This is because Ubi has a stupid system where the game is only activated and added to Uplay during/after the installation process, so you need to get an installer from somewhere at first. Doesn't have to be Capsule, but they will provide it.
Once you have installed and activated it, you will be able to re-download it form Uplay whenever you want.

Ah okay, i didn't know that. So the only way you can download a game directly from uplay for the first time is when you buy it in the uplay store?
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:02    Post subject:
Music:

1. Far Cry 3 (05:34)
2. Heat (03:33)
3. The Rakyat (03:54)
4. Monsoon (02:52)
5. Falling Into A Dream (02:19)
6. Journey Into Madness (02:55)
7. Rook Island (05:21)
8. We Are Watching You (03:33)
9. Treasure Of Zhang He (03:35)
10. Fever Dream (04:10)
11. Call Of The Wild (03:43)
12. Bad Trip (05:00)
13. Path Of The Warrior (07:10)
14. Lost Child (03:54)
15. Broken Compass (03:20)
16. The Giant's Head (02:09)
17. Further (04:03)


-= GP-team =-
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:06    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:08    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:09    Post subject:
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:11    Post subject:
Jonhy wrote:
MinderMast wrote:
Jonhy wrote:
Well according to gmg you will need capsule to download it:


This is because Ubi has a stupid system where the game is only activated and added to Uplay during/after the installation process, so you need to get an installer from somewhere at first. Doesn't have to be Capsule, but they will provide it.
Once you have installed and activated it, you will be able to re-download it form Uplay whenever you want.

Ah okay, i didn't know that. So the only way you can download a game directly from uplay for the first time is when you buy it in the uplay store?

Actually even then it still won't be from Uplay Very Happy
They have a separate installer provided from the Ubishop (technically provided by a third party - Digital River). So you download the same installer from them (and you only have 30 days to do that) and follow the same steps. Essentially it's just like buying anywhere else, only the location from which you get the installer is different.

It's all a mess, but apparently that is just the way Ubi likes it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:38    Post subject:
Such a shit system Laughing Unbelievable that they try to force this shit on us. Even origin is better Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:47    Post subject:
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:53    Post subject:
Or just give up this whole "We can do much better" idea and go back to steam like every other publisher Very Happy
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 16:55    Post subject:
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All they have to change is let Uplay activate cdkeys without installing the game first.

Yeah, that's the one step that would simplify things greatly.

But it seems there is a way to get the game straight into Uplay - if you buy the game from the shop that is inside the client itself.
Right now there is the UbiShop available through the browser, and the Uplay shop available through the client. They are completely separate it seems - I don't even have the same games available in different stores.

Edit: Seems they cleaned things up a little during the week. Used to be that certain editions were available only in one of the stores for me - not so any more,
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trashci




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 17:10    Post subject:
Llet's say that you bought the game on Steam, if you want to play this game without the steam client, you need a retail or UbiShop key.

It smells scam.


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 17:19    Post subject:
Not sure what you mean. This is how it has always been with Steam and non-steam games, hasn't it?
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 17:25    Post subject:
Yes. But any other game that you buy via steam(Excluding SteamWorks titles, ofc) allows you the play withouth it. A GFWL title binds your key to your GFWL account, but Uplay binds it to it's "steam side". That said, if you want to play outside steam you need to buy it, even for the Uplay account that already has the game through steam.

I tried to lend my Uplay account to a friend of mine(He wanted to test MP), and it asked for a serial.


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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 17:28    Post subject:
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Yes. But any other game that you buy via steam(Excluding SteamWorks titles, ofc) allows you the play withouth it.

Really ? Confused Confused
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 18:04    Post subject:
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evilmonkey




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 18:07    Post subject:
havent really been following this at all, seen a few pictures of installers and people with the game and as far as I can gather this aint steamworks.

so anyone fill me in if a release is poss?
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 18:08    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
trashci wrote:
Yes. But any other game that you buy via steam(Excluding SteamWorks titles, ofc) allows you the play withouth it.

Really ? Confused Confused

I suppose you can if you use a crack or something, otherwise even non-steamworks games will still launch Steam before running.

I think the point is that even if you do bypass Steam, you still have to deal with Uplay, but games bought from Steam are not actually added to Uplay, so you can't get around it. Don't know if that's how it works, but apparently that is what trashci is saying.

Regardless, I'd hardly call it a scam though. For the most part, if you buy a game from Steam, you expect to make it work through Steam, not without it. If you want something else, you use GOG, for example.
I do recall Origin accepting Steam keys, allowing the games to be used that way, but since EA was/is promoting their software, it was understandable.

Now I think it's part of that new agreement that EA didn't like - Valve is not letting the publishers bypass Steam to provide the games and additional content directly. Everything needs to go through Steam and this is how Ubi made it work, while EA simply abandoned it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 18:19    Post subject:
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 18:35    Post subject:
I want Vaas now! Sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 19:00    Post subject:
The definition of insanity...


I'm gonna love this game.


[spoiler][quote="SteamDRM"]i've bought mohw :derp: / FPS of the year! [/quote]
[quote="SteamDRM"][quote="b0se"]BLACK OPS GOTY[/quote]
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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Nov 2012 19:06    Post subject:
So am i mate Smile Just a shame that i wont have any time to play untill next weekend Sad
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