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 Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 11:52 Post subject: |
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DirectX 11.1 will be Windows 8 exclusive. http://www.vg247.com/2012/11/12/direct-x-11-1-is-windows-8-exclusive-no-plans-to-retrofit/
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Shader tracing and compiler enhancements
Direct3D device sharing
Check support of new Direct3D 11.1 features and formats
Use HLSL minimum precision
Specify user clip planes in HLSL on feature level 9 and higher
Create larger constant buffers than a shader can access
Use logical operations in a render target
Force the sample count to create a rasterizer state
Process video resources with shaders
Extended support for shared Texture2D resources
Change subresources with new copy options
Discard resources and resource views
Support a larger number of UAVs
Bind a subrange of a constant buffer to a shader
Retrieve the subrange of a constant buffer that is bound to a shader
Clear all or part of a resource view
Map SRVs of dynamic buffers with NO_OVERWRITE
Use UAVs at every pipeline stage
Extended support for WARP devices
Use Direct3D in Session 0 processes |
And you know upon which DX version Xbox III games (and their ports to PC) will be made.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 11:53 Post subject: |
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those assholes, but hope that devs will stick to DX11 for some time
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 11:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 12:42 Post subject: |
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Didn't they learn with DX10?
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 12:48 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Didn't they learn with DX10? |
DX10 had a very good reason to be exclusive to the new OS due to the entirely new driver model of Vista. So no, that wasn't a previous mistake of theirs they are repeating now.
For DX11.1, there doesn't seem to be a reason to be exclusive to Win 8, other than "because we can".
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:05 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: |
For DX11.1, there doesn't seem to be a reason to be exclusive to Win 8, other than "because we can". |
That, and "because fuck you".
It's not like there's much incentive for MS to support PC gaming when they have the Xbox - on the contrary, it's better for them if PC gamers would move to the Xbox.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:29 Post subject: |
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so .. i installed win 8. cause i saw that startisback is awesome.
and wth, used my wife laptop win 7 license to actually purchase win 8.
now, just out of curiosity, i was trying to find an antivirus in metro ui, app store.
there is any way to search a thing in that store ?
i can only see browsable category's. no search.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:33 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | so .. i installed win 8. cause i saw that startisback is awesome.
and wth, used my wife laptop win 7 license to actually purchase win 8.
now, just out of curiosity, i was trying to find an antivirus in metro ui, app store.
there is any way to search a thing in that store ?
i can only see browsable category's. no search. |
don't know about search, but windows8 has built in antivirus (MSE), so don't really need to install any bloated 3rd party AV.
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prudislav
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:34 Post subject: |
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| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: |
don't know about search, but windows8 has built in antivirus (MSE), so don't really need for any bloated 3rd party crap. |
i would rather get rid of MS crap
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:35 Post subject: |
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| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | frogster wrote: | so .. i installed win 8. cause i saw that startisback is awesome.
and wth, used my wife laptop win 7 license to actually purchase win 8.
now, just out of curiosity, i was trying to find an antivirus in metro ui, app store.
there is any way to search a thing in that store ?
i can only see browsable category's. no search. |
don't know about search, but windows8 has built in antivirus (MSE), so don't really need to install any bloated 3rd party AV. |
yeh, i heard that is supose to have essentials antivirus on, but is nowhere to be found.
if is not in my process list/startup list/services list, i can safetly say that is not on or installed.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:37 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | yeh, i heard that is supose to have essentials antivirus on, but is nowhere to be found.
if is not in my process list/startup list/services list, i can safetly say that is not on or installed. |
i think that's because MSE is now merged with windows defender. so you can access it by opening windows defender settings.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:37 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | | Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | frogster wrote: | so .. i installed win 8. cause i saw that startisback is awesome.
and wth, used my wife laptop win 7 license to actually purchase win 8.
now, just out of curiosity, i was trying to find an antivirus in metro ui, app store.
there is any way to search a thing in that store ?
i can only see browsable category's. no search. |
don't know about search, but windows8 has built in antivirus (MSE), so don't really need to install any bloated 3rd party AV. |
yeh, i heard that is supose to have essentials antivirus on, but is nowhere to be found.
if is not in my process list/startup list/services list, i can safetly say that is not on or installed. |
It's built into Windows Defender.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:47 Post subject: |
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i carefully checked my process list.
there is no such thing like windows defender/essentials or something remotley like that running.
in previous windows defender was an on demand scanner, not 100% active one.
so i manually started windows defender which stated : defender have been turned off, check action center. (usually on a clean install that damn action center bugger me with all kind of things, now was just quiet).
i head to action center, turned that on, and essentials shows up.
i dont like it to much, but for now i will stick with it.
ususally i use free panda cloud for antivirus only protection, i dont need a full suite antivirus, antishiedls, antocoockies, anti <insert 100000 idiotic things to check>.
the last question i have is about the search in metro app store. is there and i'm blind ?
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 13:49 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | | Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | prudislav wrote: |
i would rather get rid of MS crap |
you are using windows right now aren't you? your hypocrisy is just mind blowing  |
 yeah i kinda expected this answer  Windows 98/XP/7 are only thing form MS i can stand - probably because I got it legal for free(same as Win8) and mainly because of gaming.But for work Linux is better. Other shit from MS (IE,Media Player,antivirus,Win8,...) is no go, 3rd party apps were always better.
And now when windows is starting to be closed system and apple copycat, i am starting to hate even windows. |
Of course. Now you have the legal right to complain you see!  
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 14:11 Post subject: |
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| frogster wrote: | | the last question i have is about the search in metro app store. is there and i'm blind ? |
google says:
| Quote: | To navigate the Windows 8 Store, click the Store tile on the Start screen and then press Windows logo key+ Q or touch swipe from the right edge to open charms, then use the Search charm to search for apps.
You can also use the Page Up and Page Down keys to scroll the Store catalog view. |
| prudislav wrote: | | But for work Linux is better. |
for YOUR work maybe. for my, and many other people's work linux is shit because nothing runs on it, so we have to use windows or osx, but it's ok because i like using windows and even osx to some degree.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 14:24 Post subject: |
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windows is fine if it stays open , but that era of windows like open platforms seems to end with Win8 and its build in shits (IE/AV)
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 15:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 15:42 Post subject: |
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cheers intel nvidia.
after 2-3 h, the remaining grip is still with metro ui.
unfortunately from time to time it popus some his own program like pdf reader, video, images or others which i hate. not a single one manage to make me want to launch it again ever.
installed alternatives, setup some things in default programs, i hope i will never see an app from metro shit pop up again.
another funny thing.
got my windows media center code.
started the install.
i was setting up some other stuff, computer is now restarting. without any warnings, he closed everything.
he is updating stuff, restart, again is updating stuff ... and again restart .
i dont think i ever saw a double restart for an instalation since so looooong time ago.
i kinda like the interface (desktop classic) a bit better than aero counter part (i was using classic theme anyway in win 7).
so the difference between okish win 8 and hate win 8 was the showing of the start button and forever (hopefully) hiding of metro ui and all his crap. startisback still have flaws, but at least now i can work more than 15 min in win 8.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 15:53 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | | windows is fine if it stays open , but that era of windows like open platforms seems to end with Win8 and its build in shits (IE/AV) |
You don't have to use IE or the built in AV.
@frogster:
Start8 is better imo.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 16:22 Post subject: |
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Like I give a fuck. we're all still stuck with DX9 as it is. Is that news supposed to upset me as a PC gamer? Maybe if I really, and I mean REALLY had no other stuff to care about I'd shit my pants because I won't have a .1 right next to my DX11.... Sigh
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 18:57 Post subject: |
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Another pathetic move to sell more Windoyoyo Hipster 8 copies, but unfortunately for them I could care less about these exclusive DX11.1 and their invisible tessellation v2.0 + improved rebuffered shaderpers ultra for the ultimate cinematic experience and Windows 7 users alienation.
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 19:07 Post subject: |
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| Newty182 wrote: | @frogster:
Start8 is better imo. |
It actually isn't. StartIsBack is actual Windows 7 code integrated without hacks into Windows 8 through registry and an Explorer DLL extension. Start8 is a cheap shit by Starderp. |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 19:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 12th Nov 2012 19:20 Post subject: |
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Im using win 8 for about 2 months now.
Its just Windows 7 with a different start menu...whats wrong with y'all ?
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