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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 00:46    Post subject:
Haven't played it so far, but the Giantbong quicklook says that there are five different races per car.
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 00:48    Post subject:
5 races per car of which 2 are mostly always of the circuit type.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 08:09    Post subject:
I get endless loading on start. Using SHITROW and 3DM v2 its same. With or without Origin Install. Exe is blocked. I'm missing something?


Edit: FIxed it didn't had to delete _Installer folder. Weird.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 11:54    Post subject:
nothing will fix the god awful performance though, even on lowest settings the game is struggling.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 16:11    Post subject:
The performance is full of awe? Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 16:15    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
The performance is full of awe? Shocked


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 16:54    Post subject:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Need-for-Speed-Most-Wanted-2-PC-235018/Tests/Need-for-Speed-Most-Wanted-2-Benchmark-Test-1033418/

The minimum framerate for the GPU I have is a bit higher than what I achieve, maybe there's some severe CPU bottleneck with this game?
(Or is the crack still causing performance issues?)
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 17:15    Post subject:
Odd benchmark results.

Since crossfire ain't working yet for this title, i'm running on 1 card. my fps is average around 34, never saw it drop below 30 (not like they report 25)


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 17:20    Post subject:
This game is pure shit, i played it now awhile and besides that the name should be Need for Crash it utterly suxx monkeyballs, there is no cusomization, the cops are fucking retartded and the ai is so heavily cheating its no fun anymore.

Im right now at most wanted rank 3 and i have finished the race, but taking down the fucking veyron is almost impossible. im getting up to him and he crashes a civilian, me @ 160mph is driving further and this sucker makes a 180 turn in the opposite direction and vanishes, then i have to drive another 3-4 miles to make him appear again only that this time i drive in a civilian which makes me crash completly and this sucker is vanishing again in front of me, repeating this now for 15 mins on the row and im about the throw my fucking pad into my monitor only to see this sucker crash !

Why dont they just make Underground 2 in modern graphics, just why ?

But one good thing this has, after MoH and this one here i hope that many more people will see that EA is just a bunch of mucking morons and i hope also that EA makes big loss with those games and upcoming ones so that EA finally goes down.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:19    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
This game is pure shit, i played it now awhile and besides that the name should be Need for Crash it utterly suxx monkeyballs, there is no cusomization, the cops are fucking retartded and the ai is so heavily cheating its no fun anymore.

Im right now at most wanted rank 3 and i have finished the race, but taking down the fucking veyron is almost impossible. im getting up to him and he crashes a civilian, me @ 160mph is driving further and this sucker makes a 180 turn in the opposite direction and vanishes, then i have to drive another 3-4 miles to make him appear again only that this time i drive in a civilian which makes me crash completly and this sucker is vanishing again in front of me, repeating this now for 15 mins on the row and im about the throw my fucking pad into my monitor only to see this sucker crash !

Why dont they just make Underground 2 in modern graphics, just why ?

But one good thing this has, after MoH and this one here i hope that many more people will see that EA is just a bunch of mucking morons and i hope also that EA makes big loss with those games and upcoming ones so that EA finally goes down.


You could have used the time you spent writing this post to look up NfS in wikipedia. It would have told you that this was developed by Criterion, the makers of Burnout and Hot Pursuit 2010. The Underground games you adore were made by EA Black Box. Their next game will (most likely) be released next year.
It is like Call of Duty, where Infinity Ward and Treyarch take turns.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:23    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Odd benchmark results.

Since crossfire ain't working yet for this title, i'm running on 1 card. my fps is average around 34, never saw it drop below 30 (not like they report 25)


Not working in what sense? I'm running dual 6850s (with CrossFire on in CCC), and not getting anything below 30 (as a visual guess... I'm not running FRAPS or anything to check it). I do notice some dips here and there, and I've not played it a lot, but certainly not terrible performance.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:24    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
DaLexy wrote:
This game is pure shit, i played it now awhile and besides that the name should be Need for Crash it utterly suxx monkeyballs, there is no cusomization, the cops are fucking retartded and the ai is so heavily cheating its no fun anymore.

Im right now at most wanted rank 3 and i have finished the race, but taking down the fucking veyron is almost impossible. im getting up to him and he crashes a civilian, me @ 160mph is driving further and this sucker makes a 180 turn in the opposite direction and vanishes, then i have to drive another 3-4 miles to make him appear again only that this time i drive in a civilian which makes me crash completly and this sucker is vanishing again in front of me, repeating this now for 15 mins on the row and im about the throw my fucking pad into my monitor only to see this sucker crash !

Why dont they just make Underground 2 in modern graphics, just why ?

But one good thing this has, after MoH and this one here i hope that many more people will see that EA is just a bunch of mucking morons and i hope also that EA makes big loss with those games and upcoming ones so that EA finally goes down.


You could have used the time you spent writing this post to look up NfS in wikipedia. It would have told you that this was developed by Criterion, the makers of Burnout and Hot Pursuit 2010. The Underground games you adore were made by EA Black Box. Their next game will (most likely) be released next year.
It is like Call of Duty, where Infinity Ward and Treyarch take turns.


No, no,nooo....Black Box is restructuring. They'll make social/browser/f2p games.

The newly founded (and still hiring) EA Gothenburg (Sweden) is the new developer for NFS. It's also the studio that will use the Frostbite 2.0 engine that was present in NFS The Run (and we all know how well Frostbite acted). The other NFS studio will remain Criterion.
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:35    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
DaLexy wrote:
This game is pure shit, i played it now awhile and besides that the name should be Need for Crash it utterly suxx monkeyballs, there is no cusomization, the cops are fucking retartded and the ai is so heavily cheating its no fun anymore.

Im right now at most wanted rank 3 and i have finished the race, but taking down the fucking veyron is almost impossible. im getting up to him and he crashes a civilian, me @ 160mph is driving further and this sucker makes a 180 turn in the opposite direction and vanishes, then i have to drive another 3-4 miles to make him appear again only that this time i drive in a civilian which makes me crash completly and this sucker is vanishing again in front of me, repeating this now for 15 mins on the row and im about the throw my fucking pad into my monitor only to see this sucker crash !

Why dont they just make Underground 2 in modern graphics, just why ?

But one good thing this has, after MoH and this one here i hope that many more people will see that EA is just a bunch of mucking morons and i hope also that EA makes big loss with those games and upcoming ones so that EA finally goes down.


You could have used the time you spent writing this post to look up NfS in wikipedia. It would have told you that this was developed by Criterion, the makers of Burnout and Hot Pursuit 2010. The Underground games you adore were made by EA Black Box. Their next game will (most likely) be released next year.
It is like Call of Duty, where Infinity Ward and Treyarch take turns.


Im aware of that, no need for wiki as its allready displayed on the titlescreen.
The point is, when i get a NfS game, i deserve a NfS game and not a Burnout Paradise, or should i be getting next time a Pokemon game when i purchase Battlefield ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:43    Post subject:
Any good cheap cdkey site selling it?
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:45    Post subject:
cddiski.ru

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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 18:51    Post subject:
DaLexy wrote:
me7 wrote:
DaLexy wrote:
This game is pure shit, i played it now awhile and besides that the name should be Need for Crash it utterly suxx monkeyballs, there is no cusomization, the cops are fucking retartded and the ai is so heavily cheating its no fun anymore.

Im right now at most wanted rank 3 and i have finished the race, but taking down the fucking veyron is almost impossible. im getting up to him and he crashes a civilian, me @ 160mph is driving further and this sucker makes a 180 turn in the opposite direction and vanishes, then i have to drive another 3-4 miles to make him appear again only that this time i drive in a civilian which makes me crash completly and this sucker is vanishing again in front of me, repeating this now for 15 mins on the row and im about the throw my fucking pad into my monitor only to see this sucker crash !

Why dont they just make Underground 2 in modern graphics, just why ?

But one good thing this has, after MoH and this one here i hope that many more people will see that EA is just a bunch of mucking morons and i hope also that EA makes big loss with those games and upcoming ones so that EA finally goes down.


You could have used the time you spent writing this post to look up NfS in wikipedia. It would have told you that this was developed by Criterion, the makers of Burnout and Hot Pursuit 2010. The Underground games you adore were made by EA Black Box. Their next game will (most likely) be released next year.
It is like Call of Duty, where Infinity Ward and Treyarch take turns.


Im aware of that, no need for wiki as its allready displayed on the titlescreen.
The point is, when i get a NfS game, i deserve a NfS game and not a Burnout Paradise, or should i be getting next time a Pokemon game when i purchase Battlefield ?


Try to look at it this way: EA Black Box had a hard time releasing games annually, which led to a decline in quality und ultimately resulted in turds like ProStreet and Undercover. With Criterion releasing Burnout games labeld as NfS each other year, the new EA Gothenburg will have two years for each title.
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I can't believe this thread is still alive...

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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 19:22    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
I can't believe this thread is still alive...

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Same with Diablo 3 unfortunately Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Nov 2012 20:19    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Need-for-Speed-Most-Wanted-2-PC-235018/Tests/Need-for-Speed-Most-Wanted-2-Benchmark-Test-1033418/

The minimum framerate for the GPU I have is a bit higher than what I achieve, maybe there's some severe CPU bottleneck with this game?
(Or is the crack still causing performance issues?)


Well there is a GPU limitation - https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/522796/sli/need-for-speed-most-wanted-2-sli-profile/ - but it's difficult to measure exactly how big of a issue this is with this benchmark since the test used here was via a highly overclocked (4.5 Ghz) high-end CPU which can handle the game far better thus focusing fully on GPU performance although the game is still pushing the GPU quite a bit when using the highest possible setting thus requiring something like a high end AMD 7000 series or higher alternatively a very high-end Nvidia 600 series or higher.
(I think it was mentioned that reflections and headlight shadows were amongst the most demanding options along with some landscape detail setting, don't fully remember it's name.)


EDIT: I can't claim to understand it fully but isn't such a CPU limitation a bit weird for a DX11 game?

There's not much traffic and the AI isn't very advanced, not too many different race opponents or cop vehicles active either but I don't know how they've set it up.

EDIT: Then again Codemasters have like what, sixteen core scaling if not higher in their games thus also showing that even if it's not very efficient (It probably is.) they do take CPU usage seriously and there is a strong need for it for the game to perform optimally so there's probably something similar here.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 11:09    Post subject:
This game is only acceptable if played on a mobile phone. Just tryed it, and it's fun to pass some time. Cute Pom Pom's
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 11:10    Post subject:
It's a fun game (on a phone), but i have some performance issues, just like on pc.


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 11:13    Post subject:
anyone else have nasty stutters when fps dips just under 60?
and dat handling... yuck...
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 19:29    Post subject:
Im having a big problem with the game! I installed Skidrow release and when i start the game there is an only black screen and WmiPrvSE process starts in the task manager eating 23% of my cpu.And when i kill the process i can play the game! I'm only having problem with this game,do y have any ideas what to do? I have to kill the service Windows Management Instrumentation in order to WmiPrvSE not to show and i can play the game without problems then.How to fix all this?


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 19:39    Post subject:
I can`t believe ea did release this stutter game, did they even test it? there should have been an update allready, how long do they wait till they release an update? crazy company!
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Who quarez. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 19:49    Post subject:
Neo_McKane wrote:
It's a fun game (on a phone), but i have some performance issues, just like on pc.


It is certainly due to the huge and complex tyres physics model running at least at 2000Hz tickrate.
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Must be quite CPU demanding...


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Nov 2012 20:06    Post subject:
EA once again proves that consoles are much better than PCs. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 01:40    Post subject:
Pey wrote:
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Are you sure that this version isn't locked to Russian language only?
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Nov 2012 01:47    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
sausje wrote:
Odd benchmark results.

Since crossfire ain't working yet for this title, i'm running on 1 card. my fps is average around 34, never saw it drop below 30 (not like they report 25)


Not working in what sense? I'm running dual 6850s (with CrossFire on in CCC), and not getting anything below 30 (as a visual guess... I'm not running FRAPS or anything to check it). I do notice some dips here and there, and I've not played it a lot, but certainly not terrible performance.


First have fraps running and a OSD (like MSI Afterburner) that shows you GPU activity, before i explain anything by what i mean.
TBH, that's a MUST for every dual card setup, keeping an eye out to scaling is another must.
What's the point of having 2 cards if you can't even know if they are working as they should be Laughing

Oh and you GUESS that it's not dropping below 30 Laughing


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