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 Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:45 Post subject: Death of AMD ATI |
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:47 Post subject: |
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The ATI guys at AMD have been untouched by the layoffs thus far.
Source: I work in a building right next to them.
PS. That might be different at the end of today. They have a lot more layoffs coming today.
Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:48 Post subject: |
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ATI are part of AMD that makes money. I bought ATI/AMD GPU few mount ago.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:04 Post subject: |
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Wait, so just because you both an AMD card a few "mount" ago, it makes it profitable?
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:17 Post subject: |
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I remember reading/watching an interview on a Japanese? CEO of an airline who was hit with the rough economy. However, in order to keep his employees working and not have to do layoffs, he cut his huge salary and put himself on an hourly wage with the rest of his staff.
The most noble thing I've ever heard of anyone doing. I wish I could find it again.
[EDIT] This forum must have some sort of magic. I can spend months trying to find something again to no avail, but when I make a post about it on here then decide to try and find it again, WHAM, it ends up as the first search result
http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=20311#.UImxrXdlddU
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:17 Post subject: |
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:19 Post subject: |
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I was speaking to AMD guy this week and the ATI part of their company is the one that generates the revenue. They can't keep up with Intel in terms of CPU and they are blaming Intel to 'influence" the benchmarking branch of industry especially the one tied to office/overall PC performance like BAPCo or Passmark. Also he stated that AMD doesn't have as big budget for marketing as Intel to promote their products or make any kind of bigger impact on the market. He also stated that they are considering switching their focus from desktops to mobile solutions and as I said before the ATI branch shouldn't be in anyway affected.
So now we are waiting for some mysterious leak from Intel or magical fund transfer to AMD like it happened a few times in the past.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:22 Post subject: |
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Well that AMD guy seems to be a retard.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:23 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Well that AMD guy seems to be a retard. |
Elaborate, please.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:27 Post subject: |
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He's implying Intel is succesfull because they buy benchmark developers and because they have a lot of money to spend on marketing. A shitty gen of CPUs is shitty.
As for Ati, I doubt Ati will be untouched. Unless they decide to drop the CPU department, which will never happen, Ati will carry the dead weight. Ati should never have been bought by AMD, just like Nvidia should never be bought by Intel.
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:33 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | He's implying Intel is succesfull because they buy benchmark developers and because they have a lot of money to spend on marketing. A shitty gen of CPUs is shitty.
As for Ati, I doubt Ati will be untouched. Unless they decide to drop the CPU department, which will never happen, Ati will carry the dead weight. Ati should never have been bought by AMD, just like Nvidia should never be bought by Intel. |
Ok. You are right. They can't just keep up and we pointed that out. But well AMD is his employer and he couldn't outright say that they just fucked up.
Another thing is that if they haven't bought the ATI the layoffs would happened a lot sooner.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:59 Post subject: |
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Would be a shame dying just as they've found the magical recipe for good drivers 
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 09:31 Post subject: |
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AMD got a new executive line-up (with Dirk Meyer as CEO) around the Phenom era or something. That's when they moved ALL the pro's in the CPU section from Performance to the APU section, several key people were very unsatisfied with the new leadership and left the company and the Bulldozer was only half-way designed, leaving almost a skeleton crew to design it.
Some very bad decisions took place and that's why AMD is where it is today. If it hadn't been for purchasing ATI, AMD would be making chips for gadgets today, like qualcomm, and Intel having a practical monopoly.
Now Rory Read is the new CEO, Jim Keller have recently returned to the Desktop CPU department as chief designer (the guy behind the Athlons incl. the world-winning Athlon64). The question is if investors have any trust left in AMD to keep their investments in the company.
I mean, to some extent I see why AMD wanted in on the APU and low-power business, that's where things have been going long before the average user noticed. But they left their original core business (powerful desktop CPU's) fall so behind that it's hurting them, and the competition in the APU/low-core CPU business is extreme and they're not making money there either. Intel, nVidia and ARM-builders like Qualcomm are ruling the market there for smartphones and tablets.
It's simply a cutthroat business where Intel have enormous resources to survive a recession and market slump and keep working on the fastest Desktop CPU's in the planet while they also branch out with their Atom cpu's that can be found in so many ultrabooks, smartphones, tablets etc.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 09:44 Post subject: |
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Even if AMD was to go under, the GPU branch would be sold off and there's a number of parties that would be very interested.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 11:35 Post subject: |
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Intel is ruling the low power market? 
Intel has been struggling for years. Netbooks and Nettops are gone almost as fast as they arrived, and their current Atom brand has been all but dead. The cellphone that came with an Intel CPU underperformed in both battery life and performance compared to the ARM chips, and that's saying a lot for an x86 CPU.
Intel are seeing the trend toward low power mobile devices, and are quaking. That is why they have been marketing their new Atom line so much. If it wasn't for Microsoft and Windows 8, Intel would be irrelevant for this market. It remains to be seen whether they will find success in the slate market.
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 11:39 Post subject: |
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Who said Intel is ruling the low power market? If you meant what I said about nVidia, Intel and Qualcomm leading the gadget-cpu market, then it's about market shares in comparison with AMD. I know how much trouble Intel have had with getting even close to the low power requirements of the ARM chips. Which is why it seems Intel may be getting into the RISC business if they can get a license. They did dabble with RISC CPU's in the 80'ies.
| Quote: | | Intel later developed its own high performance implementation named XScale which it has since sold to Marvell. |
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my first pc was an amd athlon xp 1700+. those were the days... 
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