XCOM: Enemy Unknown
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:07    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Please stop Crying or Very sad

Nope.
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trying to sell a pc game to a group of console gamers isn't going to work, console gamers play games to be immediately rewarded with an awesome kill or crazy cinematic moment. games like xcom are more about strategy and thinking, you can't get immediately rewarded so console gamers aren't going to want it.

also this guy just makes himself looks stupid and ignorant about the game he's trying to sell which is sad considering he made it.

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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:15    Post subject:
From kotaku... right Troll Dad


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:18    Post subject:
See, that's actually a smart post and the poster is right - it doesn't matter that Enemy Unknown is being made for consoles too, the gameplay itself simply doesn't appeal to the majority of console gamers, other than the ones who are used to play tactics-based RPGs such as Valkyria Chronicles (a game I STRONGLY recommend to everyone!) -- so advertising this game to the Gears of Derpity Derp crowd is invariably going to fail. Then we have the strongly worded clincher; the DEVELOPER is coming off as a clueless ignoramus and that's a shame .. he should be trying to sell the game whilst trying to sell the game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:18    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
From kotaku... right Troll Dad

Yep LOL
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
See, that's actually a smart post and the poster is right - it doesn't matter that Enemy Unknown is being made for consoles too, the gameplay itself simply doesn't appeal to the majority of console gamers, other than the ones who are used to play tactics-based RPGs such as Valkyria Chronicles (a game I STRONGLY recommend to everyone!) -- so advertising this game to the Gears of Derpity Derp crowd is invariably going to fail. Then we have the strongly worded clincher; the DEVELOPER is coming off as a clueless ignoramus and that's a shame .. he should be trying to sell the game whilst trying to sell the game.

Yep I played that one. Bought it on release, greatly enjoyed it too.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:26    Post subject:
The video shows me that they should'nt have wasted any time with the console versions...
and I bet there is alot of stuff I'll have to suffer through because of those boxes.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 04:29    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:

Yep I played that one. Bought it on release, greatly enjoyed it too.
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I figured you would Smile Not only is the story beautifully told and animated (dat watercolour!) but the gameplay is pure tactical all the way.. and hell, I usually don't like Tactics-style games. One thing I will be forever bitter about is the gut-wrenching decision to make the sequel PSP only Sad

m3th0d2008 wrote:
The video shows me that they should'nt have wasted any time with the console versions...
and I bet there is alot of stuff I'll have to suffer through because of those boxes.


Absolutely agreed Sad Some games just don't belong on platforms where they'll have to be butchered in order to appeal to that specific audience.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 05:21    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

Absolutely agreed Sad Some games just don't belong on platforms where they'll have to be butchered in order to appeal to that specific audience.


And this is one, and one of many Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 07:20    Post subject:
I'm just glad it will have a bigger audience.

Picked this up from GMG for under £20 so even if it just slightly tickles nostalgia, at worst ill go and play the old ones.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 08:53    Post subject:
That video made me sad and depressed.
They tried to make it appeal to the derps and derps despise it. And for VC as far as I know the game being as great as it is was considered a failure in terms of sales - as it sold 100k copies initially (getting to 1 m in the end).

I wonder how people would react if he advertised it as that fps abomination?
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 10:21    Post subject:
Not quite sure why this clearly humorous video got some people here so excited. Strategy games are a big genre on the PC, but even so if you go randomly and ask PC gamers today if they know XCOM and would like to play it you would meet a fair amount of RPG and FPS fans who would say no. And obviously even more so in xbox crowd. The whole point of console development is that there are hundreds of millions of console gamers out there and even if just a very small percent of them will buy your game you're still selling millions of units. That's just an unfortunate fact of modern game development.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 10:34    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
The video shows me that they should'nt have wasted any time with the console versions...
and I bet there is alot of stuff I'll have to suffer through because of those boxes.


That video shows what they wanted you to see.

Seriously.. its a freakin' ad. Taking its content's at face value would be like thinking that Sid Meier goes to some sort of group meeting to fight his addiction of civilization, or that civ anon is even an existing entity.

I think that this video is pretty much in line with the civ anon videos that they promoted civilization with. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 12:12    Post subject:
Just enjoy XCOM as much as you can, becuase the inevitable sequelwill be a true derp fest. Why? Well, ff this game sells well on consoles they'll try to streamiline it more to reach even wider audience and if it sells poor they'll also streamline it more to reach more people...
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 12:33    Post subject:
VonMisk wrote:
That video made me sad and depressed.
They tried to make it appeal to the derps and derps despise it. And for VC as far as I know the game being as great as it is was considered a failure in terms of sales - as it sold 100k copies initially (getting to 1 m in the end).

I wonder how people would react if he advertised it as that fps abomination?

damn, you cant be serious. this video is an obvious joke
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 12:43    Post subject:
remyleblau wrote:
VonMisk wrote:
That video made me sad and depressed.
They tried to make it appeal to the derps and derps despise it. And for VC as far as I know the game being as great as it is was considered a failure in terms of sales - as it sold 100k copies initially (getting to 1 m in the end).

I wonder how people would react if he advertised it as that fps abomination?

damn, you cant be serious. this video is an obvious joke


Than I got fooled. If I were to explain myself I would say that I'm under a lot of stress lately and my joke detector doesn't work. But probably I'm just that naive (or stoopid) Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:17    Post subject:
Looks like they just released a trailer to attract all those disappointed Gears of War fans Cool Face

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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:37    Post subject:
That surely helped...

lol wut watches trailer and:

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From the makers of CIVILIZATION

Wat is that? Can't find that on Facebook.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:42    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
That surely helped...

lol wut watches trailer and:

Quote:
From the makers of CIVILIZATION

Wat is that? Can't find that on Facebook.


Look harder.

http://www.facebook.com/civworld

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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:43    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
That surely helped...

lol wut watches trailer and:

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From the makers of CIVILIZATION

Wat is that? Can't find that on Facebook.

"it's like Farmville, only with history and stuff like that"
"oooh I see. cool then."



@Radamez: Laughing oh well.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:53    Post subject:
"it's like Farmville, only with history and stuff like that"
"does it haz chainsawz?"
"no"
"dose it haf predator misls?"
"no"
"manster chef?"
"nope"
"wtf is this shit? is it shootah?"
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"who the fuck is think and how do I get his achievement?!"


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:26    Post subject:
Hm does someone know when the game unlocks if you preorder the download version on amazon.com.
But you are from Europe. Can I play it at the 9th or do I have to wait for the 12th?
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:29    Post subject:
00101010 wrote:
Hm does someone know when the game unlocks if you preorder the download version on amazon.com.
But you are from Europe. Can I play it at the 9th or do I have to wait for the 12th?


well, probably you will get the key around the 9th, but without a vpn you will not be able to play until the 11/12th.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:52    Post subject:
Guyver wrote:
00101010 wrote:
Hm does someone know when the game unlocks if you preorder the download version on amazon.com.
But you are from Europe. Can I play it at the 9th or do I have to wait for the 12th?


well, probably you will get the key around the 9th, but without a vpn you will not be able to play until the 11/12th.

Guess I will see how it works out then.

Btw. here is another gameplay vid with IGN staff and the devs failing at the first mission Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 01:15    Post subject:
If the PC version is moddable, I bet someone will try to add some of the complexity people say is missing.

Personally, it seems to me they've included 90% of the most important features from the original x-com, and then focused on a polished, 2012 presentation style. I can't wait to play the full thing.. the demo was missing a lot of the anounced features.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 05:10    Post subject:
smblion wrote:
If the PC version is moddable, I bet someone will try to add some of the complexity people say is missing.

Personally, it seems to me they've included 90% of the most important features from the original x-com, and then focused on a polished, 2012 presentation style. I can't wait to play the full thing.. the demo was missing a lot of the anounced features.

I wish they would start doing platform-tweaks knowing perfectly well that the average PC gamer isn't interested in the same things as the average console gamer. It wouldn't even take that much time or resources in this case. It would obviously make the finished product slightly more expensive which is why they won't do it. It would also make their product better which is why they should.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 06:34    Post subject:
What do you mean by platform tweaks? The game is built on the unreal engine, so it's already optimized for PC play. I'm sure the data files will be hacked open and it'll have a bunch of mods within the first few months to a year.

Precisely what features are you missing from the game anyway? Besides the change from time units to actions, I dont see much difference. (Are base invasions possible? We dont know yet.)
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 08:38    Post subject:
smblion wrote:

(Are base invasions possible? We dont know yet.)

We do, and they're not.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 08:55    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
smblion wrote:

(Are base invasions possible? We dont know yet.)

We do, and they're not.

Slight spoiler about mission types
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 09:43    Post subject:
smblion wrote:
I'm sure the data files will be hacked open and it'll have a bunch of mods within the first few months to a year.

I doubt you'll see much beyond INI hacks and textures edits. While you can extract cooked Unreal content, repacking it is another thing altogether.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2012 10:25    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
smblion wrote:

(Are base invasions possible? We dont know yet.)

We do, and they're not.


And suddenly I'm mad about 10€ of the 50€ I've given them Sad
I wonder how much it will rise and if I regret buying it completely.


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