FIFA 13
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 20:18    Post subject:
MikeleBG wrote:
how is fifa 13 vs pes 13 ? Is is realistic to see release of fifa in following few days or is worth to invest 30 EUR ?


I would say FIFA 13 better technically, feature wise and licenses. PES 13 better in gameplay (and graphics imo). Personal opinion.
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huxanomaly2




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 20:26    Post subject:
PES13 better in graphics, lolwat
PES13 better in gameplay, lolwat
mind=blown
I know it's a personal opinion, but.. wat
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 20:31    Post subject:
huxanomaly2 wrote:
PES13 better in graphics, lolwat
lolyes, better lighting to begin with. I understand that the animations in PES 13 are horrible though.
huxanomaly2 wrote:
PES13 better in gameplay, lolwat
lolyes, and this is without a single doubt. It's "boring" against "variated".
huxanomaly2 wrote:
mind=blown
I'm sorry to read that and I hope you recover soon Smile
huxanomaly2 wrote:
I know it's a personal opinion, but.. wat
well, that Laughing
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huxanomaly2




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 21:06    Post subject:
It's prebaked lighting on that ancient engine, I don't think it's real-time. It has way too much motion blur, it causes nausea if played in prolonged sessions. Yeah, maybe some faces are better, and the sweat drops and spots are pretty cool, but that doesn't mean it has better graphics than FIFA13. At most, the tech could be equal, but I don't think so.
The gameplay ain't exactly variated, FIFA's physics engine is far more advanced (and buggier lol) than PES'. Playing a football game where all the players move the same and they run/dribble/shoot/pass/cross with basically the same animation is a no-go right from the start and loses ground in the battle with FIFA. Even FIFA10 for PC is better than PES13 (which was one of the worst FIFA games of the decade).

I already recovered, because you gave me your reasons to believe so. You argumented your POV, I respect that.
Oh, and I ain't trying to change your mind about the game, it's just some personal insight Razz.


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 21:20    Post subject:
huxanomaly2 wrote:
PES13 better in graphics, lolwat
PES13 better in gameplay, lolwat
I know it's a personal opinion, but.. wat



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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 21:38    Post subject:
Having a great animations system is one of the most important aspects for me, just imagine NBA 2K13 made with PES' engine
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huxanomaly2




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 21:41    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Having a great animations system is one of the most important aspects for me, just imagine NBA 2K13 made with PES' engine
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 22:21    Post subject:
huxanomaly2 wrote:
It's prebaked lighting on that ancient engine, I don't think it's real-time. It has way too much motion blur, it causes nausea if played in prolonged sessions. Yeah, maybe some faces are better, and the sweat drops and spots are pretty cool, but that doesn't mean it has better graphics than FIFA13. At most, the tech could be equal, but I don't think so.
The gameplay ain't exactly variated, FIFA's physics engine is far more advanced (and buggier lol) than PES'. Playing a football game where all the players move the same and they run/dribble/shoot/pass/cross with basically the same animation is a no-go right from the start and loses ground in the battle with FIFA. Even FIFA10 for PC is better than PES13 (which was one of the worst FIFA games of the decade).

I already recovered, because you gave me your reasons to believe so. You argumented your POV, I respect that.
Oh, and I ain't trying to change your mind about the game, it's just some personal insight Razz.


I did state that technically FIFA was better, in case you didn't even read all I replied to the person asking. And still, the fact that the lighting is technically better implemented in FIFA doesn't mean at all that it looks better. And no it doesn't look better, it's actually very exaggerated and only adds to the slight cartoonish feel FIFA graphics have.

Again, you imply that having a much better physics engine (which I agree it has, at least on paper) automatically makes it have better gameplay. Well, that's not the case. The game feels very repetitive match after match. Then again, this is all my personal opinion, I got bored very quickly with every single match of FIFA13 I played.

Finally, you just showed me you haven't even properly tried PES13 when you say all the players animations are the same, when that's some of the key aspects Konami advertised about with the player id feature, and it shows.

You increasingly sound like a simple fanboy. Even I admit all the aspects where FIFA is superior. You, on the other hand, keep stating how FIFA is much superior in every way, when a majority of reviewers ("derp" or not) have agreed that both games are very good this year, regardless of what their personal choice is.
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5h4d3




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 23:44    Post subject:
Dude, to admit that FIFA 13 is (far) better gameplay wise than PES 2013 it's not an opinion it's a fact.
If you deny this doesn't make you a fanboy just points that something is wrong with you. Same as being French. Smile
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 00:51    Post subject:
5h4d3 wrote:
Dude, to admit that FIFA 13 is (far) better gameplay wise than PES 2013 it's not an opinion it's a fact.
If you deny this doesn't make you a fanboy just points that something is wrong with you. Same as being French. Smile


Well, I have to confess it'll be very hard to continue taking anything you write seriously after reading this post of yours. I sincerely wish luck and give my admiration to the brave that even try it Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 00:51    Post subject:
same as being french Very Happy haha so true. sign
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 08:13    Post subject:
5h4d3 wrote:
Dude, to admit that FIFA 13 is (far) better gameplay wise than PES 2013 it's not an opinion it's a fact.
If you deny this doesn't make you a fanboy just points that something is wrong with you. Same as being French. Smile


Read here why PES2013 is a better football game when it comes to pure gameplay:

http://www.operationsports.com/reviews/683/pro-evolution-soccer-2013/
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Sohei




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 13:48    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
5h4d3 wrote:
Dude, to admit that FIFA 13 is (far) better gameplay wise than PES 2013 it's not an opinion it's a fact.
If you deny this doesn't make you a fanboy just points that something is wrong with you. Same as being French. Smile


Read here why PES2013 is a better football game when it comes to pure gameplay:

http://www.operationsports.com/reviews/683/pro-evolution-soccer-2013/


Only people who need to read it, are those who let their personal opinion be influenced by what some random dude wrote, i tried both of them, and for me, Fifa is miles ahead of Pes in terms of gameplay.
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 13:58    Post subject:
PES has more variety and depth. The football side of it is far better than Fifa. But they lack the technical stuff and makes the game look bad. They really work hard on adding stuff but the bad engine and animations makes them worthless. I hope they manage to incorporate all the football stuff in their new engine which hopefully is going to be better than this. And they need to work on adding atmosphere.

EA keeps adding little and not that important stuff that makes the game slightly different the first five games and then you get the same feel as the the two before. To each on his own though.
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TheAngel




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 15:22    Post subject:
ivan1real wrote:
PES has more variety and depth. The football side of it is far better than Fifa. But they lack the technical stuff and makes the game look bad. They really work hard on adding stuff but the bad engine and animations makes them worthless. I hope they manage to incorporate all the football stuff in their new engine which hopefully is going to be better than this. And they need to work on adding atmosphere.

EA keeps adding little and not that important stuff that makes the game slightly different the first five games and then you get the same feel as the the two before. To each on his own though.


PES has more variety?
Fuck dat, PES is fucking static as hell.
Same animations, same shots, same "first control".

It gets too old, too quickly.

Hating on fifa has been a sports the last few years.

But actually, it IS the best football game out there.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:13    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
Remeber this?



Yeah, the shop that didn't get fifa13 supplied Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 16:16    Post subject:
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rax369




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 20:12    Post subject:
BTW has anyone knows why this has not been released yet by none group for PC ???

Searching NFOHump could see, it was already released for everything (Wii, Xbox 360, PS3) just not for PC Sad(((


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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 20:13    Post subject:
Tough to crack apparently.
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rax369




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 20:17    Post subject:
Then hopefully they can find "the trick" soon.

Who knows what kind of protection EA applied on it this time.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 20:36    Post subject:
huxanomaly2 wrote:
PES13 better in graphics, lolwat
PES13 better in gameplay, lolwat
mind=blown
I know it's a personal opinion, but.. wat
Doesn't look like it. You sound like a retard

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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 20:46    Post subject:
Fifa is better then pes imo.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:00    Post subject:
gangnam wrote:
huxanomaly2 wrote:
PES13 better in graphics, lolwat
PES13 better in gameplay, lolwat
mind=blown
I know it's a personal opinion, but.. wat
Doesn't look like it. You sound like a retard

Oh really? Gee, thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:12    Post subject:
Theescapist wrote:
Fifa is better then pes imo.


I still had way more fun with Kickoff Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:32    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Theescapist wrote:
Fifa is better then pes imo.


I still had way more fun with Kickoff Laughing


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escalibur




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:35    Post subject:
(Nexus) wrote:
escalibur wrote:
Remeber this?



Yeah, the shop that didn't get fifa13 supplied Laughing



...because it was already sold out. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 21:36    Post subject:
Tungsten wrote:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Theescapist wrote:
Fifa is better then pes imo.


I still had way more fun with Kickoff Laughing


+1


Yeah!!! on the Amiga!!! woohoo

escalibur wrote:
...because it was already sold out. Wink


I think your sarcasm detector is faulty, you should order a new one too. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 23:16    Post subject:
Kickoff 2 Amiga was good. Or even
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