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 Posted: Fri, 28th Sep 2012 00:47 Post subject: |
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The drive has arrived! 
Heres my previous SSD (Corsair Performance 3 128gb):
Heres the Neutron:
So far the LAMD controller works pretty darn good on X58 
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| Posted: Fri, 28th Sep 2012 07:14 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | In a month I will have been using my Vertex 3 for a year. Still runs as good as it did on day 1, and I move steam games back and forth on it on a very frequent basis. |
yeah people who are "saving" their SSD by not writing to it anything are not getting their money's worth. i write and delete shit on my SSD all the time, don't care if it dies in 4 years instead of 10 years or whatever, by that time we'll have 1TB SSDs insanely fast and cheap.
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Oct 2012 10:56 Post subject: |
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lol, those are NEW drives? They are so slow compared to V3 
| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | | In a month I will have been using my Vertex 3 for a year. Still runs as good as it did on day 1, and I move steam games back and forth on it on a very frequent basis. |
yeah people who are "saving" their SSD by not writing to it anything are not getting their money's worth. i write and delete shit on my SSD all the time, don't care if it dies in 4 years instead of 10 years or whatever, by that time we'll have 1TB SSDs insanely fast and cheap. |
Just like me: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1966936#1966936
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| Posted: Tue, 2nd Oct 2012 23:20 Post subject: |
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Here is my full AS SSD bench for the new Corsair drive:
Overall Im pretty happy with it. No problems yet
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 09:39 Post subject: |
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Yeah was just about to say, for a V4 it's even slower then a V3 with atto..
Here are my V3 results:
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 09:56 Post subject: |
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Yeah. You'll notice thought that from 0.5-32 the write-speeds are much higher which is the strategy OCZ went for I guess.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 10:04 Post subject: |
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Tho that's an older one.
Took this one this morning (with 2 days uptime)(and better speeds at lower numbers)
This one is already faster at 16, then the 64 at the other benchmark.
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 10:12 Post subject: |
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According to Tony @ OCZ there's a reason why Benchmarking the Vtx4 will show lower values than what we really get (however it's rather cryptic):
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?103279-VTX4-performance-and-storage-modes-1-thread-discussion-only-you-want-info-you-will-only-find-it-here
| Quote: | Vertex4 is special, it does not work like any other SSD out there right now, reviewers don't see this and most end users do not either..here is why.
Vtx4 has a special performance mode, its VERY much like a burst mode you see on other drives, the difference on Vtx4 is that it stays engaged for MUCH longer, when a large amount of Nand is used in 1 go the drive will then enter into GC to make the drive fast again. The issue is this, if you benchmark while the drive is in GC mode the drive will look slow...really slow. Due to the drive being asked to write/benchmark while it is doing GC at the same time. |
| Quote: | This is what some reviewers have found, they are using the drive outside of what OCZ regard normal usage patterns to show what they feel is a fault, its NOT a fault and under normal usage patterns this slowdown during the GC period will never be noticed.
Now the drive that shows this trend the most is the 128GiB model, its not faulty, its designed to work this way. Its due to the amount of Nand on the drive and how it is configured with the controller.
So, without telling you how we get the drive to be much faster you need to consider this performance mode depends on how much Nand is used (especially in 1 go such as testing) and how much static data is on the drive (things you are storing) The MORE free space you can leave the better the drive will do, this is why I have said now many times consider if you use the 128GiB model do NOT use it as a storage drive as well as an OS drive...store data off the SSD and use it as a fast OS drive if possible. |
| Quote: | | With normal usage patterns the Vt4 128 is about the fastest 128GB drive out there right now.. |
But..... I'm not sure I buy it. If the GC keeps kicking in while doing benchmarks, by wouldn't it kick in while using the drive in "normal usage pattern" and have the same effect?
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 10:15 Post subject: |
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Well honestly we, as normal users, will not notice any difference between the top drives
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2012 21:22 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: |
The Vertex 4 was ultimately not released to put the Vertex 3 to shame but to get out the first SSD with their own controller (although it's actually a Marvell-chip). Anyone who remember the debacle of the V3 will remember it took 6-12 months for OCZ to produce a firmware that removed BSOD bugs, performance issues etc... We'll see what happens with future firmwares for the Vertex 4 but I'm happy as it is although I wouldn't mind seeing read speeds get some major boost. |
The same goes for Corsair drives. The previous Corsair SSDs (Force 3 and Force GT which released last summer) are faster than the latest Corsair Neutron series, which was released at the end of August 2012. The Neutron series just uses a different controller (LAMD). And Im glad they did this because Sandforce does not play well with my x58 setup
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Oct 2012 10:33 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | sausje wrote: | | Well honestly we, as normal users, will not notice any difference between the top drives |
Normal user wont see difference between the best and the very first SSD. Unless copying files from SSD to SSD. |
I think you're getting it wrong there. Sequential speed isn't what makes SSD's good, it's the random reads/writes/IOPS, ie. the ability to read/small files/data incredibly fast since that's where the biggest gain come from compared to a mechanical drive with a latency magnitudes larger. When you use windows normally, open applications, windows loading/closing services/processes in the background and do whatever it is you're doing, an SSD makes it extremely snappy since each SSD-controller in a way is a RAID0-controller of itself (in principle, not in reality, it's more to it than that).
Windows loads several thousand files while booting, and the SSD is capable of reading all these files, many of them only a few kilobytes, ridiculously fast, hence the incredible boot times on modern SSD's as well as starting apps etc.
The difference between a first generation SSD and current high-range models will definitely be noticeable.
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| Frant wrote: | | The difference between a first generation SSD and current high-range models will definitely be noticeable. |
Ofc, but between the current ones (for example V3 vs V4), they wouldn't notice it.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Nov 2012 14:48 Post subject: |
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I'm planning to buy a Intel 520 SSD, good choice?
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2012 12:15 Post subject: |
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Kuro, you are rich, buy one for my second pc please!
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2012 12:31 Post subject: |
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SHUT UP, you're rolling on the dough too! 
It's me who's poor... 
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Nov 2012 12:47 Post subject: |
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Kuro had a slight woopsie though, one that made him go KURWA 
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