Piracy increase software price and hurt open source?
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:02    Post subject: Piracy increase software price and hurt open source?
According to more recent study, it seems yes, at least for software applications.

Take Microsoft Windows for example, if no one can pirate windows OS, everyone would be forced to use Linux or other free or cheaper alternatives. And Microsoft would be forced to lower price in order to compete.

Same goes to Microsoft Office. If no one can pirate MS office, everyone would be using alternatives such as StarOffice or OpenOffice, thus forcing MS to lower its price.
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The Rat
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:05    Post subject:
You a cop or a member of the anti-piracy lobby? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:13    Post subject:
Ofcourse piracy does not help open source. As with out piracy, prices would force people to go into open source software and OSes.

I think the prices would not change a lot as more would go onto open source but there would be a bigger amount of people that would choose to pay for the software.
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PostPosted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 23:58    Post subject:
The Rat wrote:
You a cop or a member of the anti-piracy lobby? Very Happy


u joke....? i wonder for real Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 02:13    Post subject:
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I think the prices would not change a lot as more would go onto open source but there would be a bigger amount of people that would choose to pay for the software.


I think these people would go for much cheaper commercial alternative such as Easy Office Premium, which cost no more than 80 dollars. People who use warez software has the habbit of using ones with the highest price tag.
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m2rock




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 09:37    Post subject:
I guess in some cases that is true, people would choose to pick eg C4D (great student license) over Maya. But I would still fork out on some software more. But I guess less money would be put into hardware as you would have to spend some amount of cash on the software.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 10:41    Post subject:
I think that you have fallen for the propaganda machine... Most companies claims that prices would be lover if there would be no piracy. The hell with that I say, they only wants to make money and would thus keep the current prices and make a lot of cash...

About Open-Source I have found myself going more and more Open-Source as I like it and knows that it will get updated and fixed pretty fast.
Sourceforge is the king... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 11:03    Post subject:
and freshmeat.net
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 15:30    Post subject:
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I think that you have fallen for the propaganda machine... Most companies claims that prices would be lover if there would be no piracy. The hell with that I say, they only wants to make money and would thus keep the current prices and make a lot of cash...


And open source advocates say if there's no piracy, more people would use open source software.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 21:31    Post subject:
makes no difference. Id never pay hundreds of my hard earned queens heads to companies who attack their own custommers for *illegally aquireing* there software. Downloading is good advertising.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:12    Post subject:
lol, my point is you are helping these companies. You are making these companies dominate.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:26    Post subject:
Plain and simple, Adobe Photoshop costs something like $400 or 500 bucks like 6-700 Canadian...its a great tool when it comes to digital graphic creation and editing, but really, is it worth THAT much money? and u have to pay for updates...hardly Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 06:07    Post subject:
then why not use free alternative like Gimp, or cheaper commercial products like paint shop pro. Thus forcing Adobe to lower price in order to compete with these cheaper products.
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rockma




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 13:00    Post subject:
That holds true as long there are viable open source counterproducts or cheaper alternatives. I believe that piracy does for sure hurt Open Source more than the software being pirated.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 13:20    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Plain and simple, Adobe Photoshop costs something like $400 or 500 bucks like 6-700 Canadian...its a great tool when it comes to digital graphic creation and editing, but really, is it worth THAT much money? and u have to pay for updates...hardly Smile


Read somewhere awhile ago that Adobe like that people download PS illegaly. Since alot of people do it it gives them great advertisment and thats why they dont really care. For example, if you download and like PS, what program would you recommend to someone asking for a good pic program? Most people would say PS and then companys buy them so their employes can use them (if needed ofcourse) and thus making money for adobe. Piracy aint all bad.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 20:59    Post subject:
Yep, making big companies richer, making small independent developers poorer.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 22:39    Post subject:
Macknu wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
Plain and simple, Adobe Photoshop costs something like $400 or 500 bucks like 6-700 Canadian...its a great tool when it comes to digital graphic creation and editing, but really, is it worth THAT much money? and u have to pay for updates...hardly Smile


Read somewhere awhile ago that Adobe like that people download PS illegaly. Since alot of people do it it gives them great advertisment and thats why they dont really care. For example, if you download and like PS, what program would you recommend to someone asking for a good pic program? Most people would say PS and then companys buy them so their employes can use them (if needed ofcourse) and thus making money for adobe. Piracy aint all bad.


Oh i didnt know that Smile


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