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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:35    Post subject: The difference between europe and USA?
I have this hypothesis, let's see what you think of it...

MAYBE ... just maybe, what separates Europe from the USA in terms of people, and how we think is this:

USA go for appearances, words and actions
Europeans go for consequences, cost, and strategy

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To europeans, americans talk a lot - they're a people that likes to talk, and talk ... and when they talk, they talk about stuff they think is great: "That's great! That's good!" ... usually it involves something that the USA has done.

The citizens of the USA like appearances too... they choose their representatives based on appearances ... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger ... show me a politician who is less about politics, and more about appearance. Also, it seems like the americans like the words full of action, they want short oneliners they can remember.

USA is probably the only country that declares war on stuff... "War on this, war on that", etc. it's simple, any two-cent citizen can remember three words... "What are we doing right now? Ah right! War on someshit... great"

Now, listening to these punchliner-politicians lead to actions. Americans don't seem to like long hauled decisionmaking, short punchline, and then go off fighting.

Saddam has weapons of mass destruction

Simple... even the guy flipping burgers at McDonald's understand that one... "Holy shit! Let's go kill his ass".

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When someone found out Saddam didn't have these WMD's, it's just to replace the words to motivate the people ... "Al-Quaeda connections", and wham-bam! There you go!



Now, Europeans are good at long overhauls... buerocracy has it's long tendrils throughout most nations of Europe. Europeans love to strategise, "What are the consequences of this? How can we do that? Why not? What is the cost? Is the benefit worth the cost? Are we thinking utilitaristic?... " etc. -

Maybe this is a part of what's so different about us?

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:38    Post subject:
not just europe ya know.... Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:40    Post subject:
3 minutes after that long post, and you proved my point Weducks.

No thoughts, just *blurt blurt blurt*, action!

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As for NZ, I don't know you well enough yet to draw any conclusion Smile

But I'm moving there in four years.

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:47    Post subject: Re: The difference between europe and USA?
fisk wrote:


The citizens of the USA like appearances too... they choose their representatives based on appearances ... look at Arnold Schwarzenegger ... show me a politician who is less about politics, and more about appearance.


arnold was european Wink Laughing

oh and



i really don't care about differences. I live in europe, and i think its good. I go on vacation allot to the states, which is great too.

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:48    Post subject:
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arnold was european


So was nearly all the ancestors of the USA too.

And that pic is true for some, USA has some gorgeous chicks too Smile

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:49    Post subject:
Since USA is the best, then none are the same, thank god.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Jul 2005 23:50    Post subject:
Weducks wrote:
and our women shave and take showers.


Um, ok? And this is relevant to the discussion how? You don't?

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 00:29    Post subject:
Laughing he must be set in the 1960's before razors were widely used. Nearly every girl here shaves or at least maintains it now. Also I dont believe your hypothesis is correct or justified. Look at east european countires like yugoslavia and russia. Do you really think they have an all out bureaucratic approach? As for the 'appearences' thing... Ok maybe they did choose him becuase of who he is (a mega film star) but I dont think its because he has big muscles and a pretty smile (Rolling Eyes) Some of the american publics decisions arent good but at least they see it through to the end and things like vietnam and iraq they were too drawn in to pull out of. As for your pretty poor statement on 'war on terrorism, war on this war on that' Well war can be replaced by many words such as we (england) use 'fight against crime' I think you're looking way too deep into the specific wording and limiting your view.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 01:03    Post subject:
The US has an OVER ABUNDENCE of fat ass bitchs and not in a good way

Europe and Canada's quality of girls is way better
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 01:16    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
The US has an OVER ABUNDENCE of fat ass bitchs and not in a good way

Europe and Canada's quality of girls is way better



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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 01:20    Post subject:
Weducks wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
The US has an OVER ABUNDENCE of fat ass bitchs and not in a good way

Europe and Canada's quality of girls is way better



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Yep
Well, more to say, Ive been/seen with (however u wanna take that) girls from the US, been to the US many times...and European girls (tourists) and obviously Canadian girls

Dont get me wrong, the US has hot girls, but the ratio between hot and ugly is huge in favour of ugly
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 02:41    Post subject:
i just love it how someone can "Tell it like it is" about a country and not a fucking clue besides the lop-sided media reports and michael moore movies.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 03:21    Post subject:
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i just love it how someone can "Tell it like it is" about a country and not a fucking clue besides the lop-sided media reports and michael moore movies.


Ah, see any of those here?

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 04:13    Post subject:
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i just love it how someone can "Tell it like it is" about a country and not a fucking clue besides the lop-sided media reports and michael moore movies.


Location: shit-kicking, arkansas

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 04:24    Post subject:
i been to Iran, Malaysia, Singapore, Sweden, England, Germany, Canada, USA, Dominican republic and i think i could ONLY live in
1- Canada
2- USA
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 04:25    Post subject:
MAD_MAX333 wrote:
i been to Iran, Malaysia, Singapore, Sweden, England, Germany, Canada, USA, Dominican republic and i think i could ONLY live in
1- Canada
2- USA


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 05:44    Post subject:
u aint been to new zealand! Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 05:47    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Weducks wrote:
SycoShaman wrote:
The US has an OVER ABUNDENCE of fat ass bitchs and not in a good way

Europe and Canada's quality of girls is way better



Man of the world? aren't you?


Yep
Well, more to say, Ive been/seen with (however u wanna take that) girls from the US, been to the US many times...and European girls (tourists) and obviously Canadian girls

Dont get me wrong, the US has hot girls, but the ratio between hot and ugly is huge in favour of ugly


I think all countries have the same hotness of girls

Its just how they present themselfs...
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 05:48    Post subject:
MAD_MAX333 wrote:
i been to Iran, Malaysia, Singapore, Sweden, England, Germany, Canada, USA, Dominican republic and i think i could ONLY live in
1- Canada
2- USA


I don't think the USA is any better then the UK. In what ways do you prefer it?

I think the USA is ok though, I could live there without too many problems.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 08:26    Post subject:
I personally think New Zealand is the greatest country on this earth, but hey! I'm just judging by perfection... some people settle for less Wink

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 09:07    Post subject:
and i think im the only person on this forum who lives here lol Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 09:41    Post subject:
Yeah, it's so god damned hard to get a permit to move there, so no wonder.

But in four years... I hope.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 10:43    Post subject:
Weducks wrote:
Since USA is the best, then none are the same, thank god.


and our women shave and take showers.



Our women shave and shower! What our women dont do is look like fat ugly pigs though! Maybe you got it confused or something!




Statistics

In the United States:

64 % of adults age 20 years and over are overweight or obese.
30 % of adults age 20 years and over are obese.
15 % of adolescents age 12-19 years are overweight.
15 % of children age 6-11 years are overweight.
(National Center for Health Statistics)

6 in 10 Americans who are overweight according to government standards actually consider themselves to be at a healthy weight, and only 25 % of obese people feel that they are overweight.
(The Associated Press / Ipsos Poll, June 2004)

More than 97 % of Americans are aware that the United States is the world's fattest nation. More than 64 % think it is embarrassing to them personally and for the country.
(Bally Total Fitness)

Those with a body mass index of 25 to 29,9 are considered overweight and anyone with a BMI equal or greater to 30 are classified as obese.
(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 11:01    Post subject:
haha, same percentage are ashamed of their country being fat as no. of ppl overwheight.. Rolling Eyes

anyway i gotta add, when i went to florida last year, i had never seen such fat ppl in my life nor as many fat people..... but there were also the most stunning girls you have ever seen , and nicely tanned too.mmmmm.

anyways on the subject of bmi's, they can be very misleading. i have a bmi of just over 36 and i would be considered fat.. yet i have stomach muscles that show clearly through ( yes a six pack). and also ppl checked at my gym who have been going for months with very toned muscles have a bmi higher than mine. i also had that same bmi od 36 when i was 16 and really was fat then. although it does work for most ppl though i think the number is slightly inflated, i would reckon just under half of americans over 20 can really be considered fat.

(btw i am not lying.... i will post a pic of myself someday when i decide to buy a digital camera.... and i love the gym anyone who goes to a good big one here will agree with me that it is nice to go often plus the ppl are very friendly there.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 11:14    Post subject:
Well, dont forget that the USA is the christian answer yo the taliban controlled Afghanistan, The christian moralityand a president apointed by god is what goes in the big country in the west. And since killing eachother to the left and right in both the bible and the us history is no biggie then violence and religion cant be harmful now can it?

http://www.reandev.com/taliban/

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 11:26    Post subject:
ollax wrote:
Weducks wrote:
Since USA is the best, then none are the same, thank god.


and our women shave and take showers.



Our women shave and shower! What our women dont do is look like fat ugly pigs though! Maybe you got it confused or something!




Statistics

In the United States:

64 % of adults age 20 years and over are overweight or obese.
30 % of adults age 20 years and over are obese.
15 % of adolescents age 12-19 years are overweight.
15 % of children age 6-11 years are overweight.
(National Center for Health Statistics)

6 in 10 Americans who are overweight according to government standards actually consider themselves to be at a healthy weight, and only 25 % of obese people feel that they are overweight.
(The Associated Press / Ipsos Poll, June 2004)

More than 97 % of Americans are aware that the United States is the world's fattest nation. More than 64 % think it is embarrassing to them personally and for the country.
(Bally Total Fitness)

Those with a body mass index of 25 to 29,9 are considered overweight and anyone with a BMI equal or greater to 30 are classified as obese.
(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)


Are there any statistics of other countrys? Know america has most fattest but many countries aint far behind. And you cant really follow those numbers sine BMI is a terribly wrong way to show if your owerweight or not.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 12:17    Post subject:
Macknu wrote:
Know america has most fattest but many countries aint far behind.

Today's America is the Western Europe of the near future (which sadly concerns much more aspects of society than obesity alone). Nearly half of the Dutch is already fat enough to be officially labeled overweight, so we're even a bit ahead of schedule! Not me though, my BMI is 24.2.

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 13:11    Post subject:
Here's the difference between europe and USA... I live in europe, therefore Europe kicks serious ass!
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Ok real serious now, the US is the fattest country in the world but many european countries is getting closer and closer. It is sad to see people getting fatter and fatter all the time.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Jul 2005 13:20    Post subject:
ollax wrote:
Well, dont forget that the USA is the christian answer yo the taliban controlled Afghanistan, The christian moralityand a president apointed by god is what goes in the big country in the west. And since killing eachother to the left and right in both the bible and the us history is no biggie then violence and religion cant be harmful now can it?

http://www.reandev.com/taliban/

The root of evil is religion, and religion cant be true if evoultion is.... and evolution is a proven fact!
You can qoute me on that - Ollax!



Usa is also a country of religious fanatics! Where there are no countries this fucked up in europe!

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