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| Stormwolf wrote: | | SIGH. It's a great game this far, but the first thing that popped into my mind when starting to play. "THIS FEELS JUST LIKE DIABLO" No wonder they extended the release date when they copied all things Diablo. Controls, the feel, everything. It feels much more smooth than Diablo, and the cartoonish gfx suits it, but it is Diablo 3 at it's core. |
Diablo 3 has absolutely nothing in common with Diablo except for the lore. From the 4 hours or so I've played of Torchlight 2, IT is the true successor to Diablo 2, and not that homogenized market simulator piece of shit that Blizzard shat out. It may not have the multi-million dollar cinematic budget, but THIS is what Diablo 3 should have been, no question.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:07 Post subject: |
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Yeah, well. I still feel like i'm playing Diablo 3 with less dumbing down. I don't give a shit about diablo 1 or 2. I'm talking about the third.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:11 Post subject: |
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Yeah, and you're obviously too fucking stupid to get my point. I guess it's just this Torchlight hype mentality in the works. I'm not saying the game is bad, all i'm saying is i clearly now understand why they extended the release date.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:16 Post subject: |
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Isn't a large part of the team behind these games ex-Blizzard North?
(Thus why it's similar to Diablo since it's from the team behind Diablo and Diablo 2.)
They are both hack & slash and have a number of other similarities but they also have a number of differences though the core mechanics are pretty alike.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:18 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | Yeah, well. I still feel like i'm playing Diablo 3 with less dumbing down. I don't give a shit about diablo 1 or 2. I'm talking about the third. |
I can't say I feel the same. Perhaps the combat pacing is somewhat similar, but honestly, how many aRPGs differentiate themselves in combat? You click, use skills, shit dies.
What makes an aRPG, in my mind, is first and foremost loot variety and distribution, on par with making meaningful choices with regards to skill and stat building. Diablo 3 fails MASSIVELY in these regards, with no chance whatsoever at any redemption. It's just too fucking simplistic to have any long term appeal. To address this would require rebuilding the game from the ground up.
Torchlight, from what little I've seen, hasn't exhibited any of these problems. Oh, and it has real randomly generated layouts (not 10% random, 90% fixed as was the case with D3). And infinite, randomly assigned dungeons. Can't forget that.
Honestly, what Runic has done here ought to make everyone at Blizzard cow their heads in fucking shame. After having force-fed myself over 300 hours of D3 delusionally hoping that something would click and it would get better, I'm happy to say, with no reservations whatsoever, Blizzard can cease to exist tomorrow and I wouldn't give a rats ass - Runic knows what it's doing and Big B is no longer required. 
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:18 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | SIGH. It's a great game this far, but the first thing that popped into my mind when starting to play. "THIS FEELS JUST LIKE DIABLO" No wonder they extended the release date when they copied all things Diablo. Controls, the feel, everything. It feels much more smooth than Diablo, and the cartoonish gfx suits it, but it is Diablo 3 at it's core. |
I feel that way but only with the characters. When I was choosing who will I play, I couldn't decide, because character skills are almost identical with their D3 counterparts. Except for the Engineer, so I play him. It's the same as witch doctor in D3. Only one that isnt't the same old barb/wizz/ranger/paladin - kinda sick of these classes.
But dont get me wrong, the game is awesome, awesome, awesome!
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:20 Post subject: |
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Did you not play the original Torchlight kenny? Yes it feels like Diablo, not a surprise when it's made by most of the people who actually did the first two. Aside from how the gameplay feels, it has entirely different skill mechanics, character stats, pets, proper random generated maps rather than randomly generated based off 5 puzzle pieces that fit together, not to mention loot that's not worthless even early game. Also not a surprise why'd they extend the release date, no, even though D3 turned out to be a disappointment, had they released at the same time it would still have failed.
Instead, this now feels like the game D3 should've been in every way (apart from the visual style, obviously  ).
@ oblivion: TL2 has no equivalent to a barb or paladin; the Berserker has more in common with a monk.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:24 Post subject: |
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You activate from the game launcher, or did you mean the account setup after that?
(It's down for maintenance or at least it was when I tried so I'm in offline mode playing solo at the moment, account I had during the beta seems to be gone so I couldn't link it to that.)
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Sin317
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:26 Post subject: |
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started with the berserker guy and got my ass whipped all the time ..
now i am running around with an engineer and one shotting everything with my big ass cannon lol.
its fun so far.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:32 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | You activate from the game launcher, or did you mean the account setup after that?
(It's down for maintenance or at least it was when I tried so I'm in offline mode playing solo at the moment, account I had during the beta seems to be gone so I couldn't link it to that.) |
I'm trying to register/activate the game via site.
https://secure.runicgames.com/account/register/torchlight-ii
But I'm getting this error for hours now.
| Quote: | Oops! Page Not Found!
Sorry, the page you are looking for could not be found. A message has been sent to the system adminstrator regarding this error. |
Thank you.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:36 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | @ oblivion: TL2 has no equivalent to a barb or paladin; the Berserker has more in common with a monk. |
Yeah, that is true, But the outlander is totally Demon Hunter and Embermage is Wizzard. Some of the skills are virtually identical..
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:37 Post subject: |
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| IamAWESOME wrote: | | JBeckman wrote: | You activate from the game launcher, or did you mean the account setup after that?
(It's down for maintenance or at least it was when I tried so I'm in offline mode playing solo at the moment, account I had during the beta seems to be gone so I couldn't link it to that.) |
I'm trying to register/activate the game via site.
https://secure.runicgames.com/account/register/torchlight-ii
But I'm getting this error for hours now.
| Quote: | Oops! Page Not Found!
Sorry, the page you are looking for could not be found. A message has been sent to the system adminstrator regarding this error. |
Thank you. |
http://forums.runicgames.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=33931&sid=8feff532d9749f88d5629f1ae094e33f
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:37 Post subject: |
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Well gee, I wonder if that's because those are standard ARPG classes and certainly not new in D3?
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:40 Post subject: |
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If someone wants flexibility in character classes creation should try PoE. Just saying.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 10:52 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | started with the berserker guy and got my ass whipped all the time ..
now i am running around with an engineer and one shotting everything with my big ass cannon lol.
its fun so far. |
Just out of curiosity how far did you get. I picked him and find it OK maybe quite easy (on Normal).
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 11:26 Post subject: |
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Which is class is the most fun lootwise?
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 11:40 Post subject: |
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I can't buy the game beacuse Steam Store is fucked up right now. Pfft.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 11:49 Post subject: |
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anyone want to buy the four pack?
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 12:08 Post subject: |
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i like it, but i'm getting anoyed by the narrow stuff.
i would have love some open field.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 12:13 Post subject: |
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WHY IN THE HELL steam store is fucked up just when I got the money and I want to buy TL2 and play it till I get a job for the day? Fuck my luck.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 12:38 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Sep 2012 12:56 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Just tried this with DarkD3 pixel shader, looks awesome! Only minus is that AA doesnt work (you need to turn off AA from options to get it working). |
looks awesome? I just messed with it harldy any difference apart from some edge sharpening.. cant say im impressed.. got some screen shots of the changes? |
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