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| xxax wrote: | | I'm too drunk too read. I never buy Ubisoft games, so what does this new protection mean to an Ubisoft pirate? |
It means you'll miss parts of the game unless someone figures out how to emulate the server side. Within two years every major publisher will do it. Blizzard does it, Ubisoft does it and EA is on the way.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 08:47 Post subject: |
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this is realy crap :/
one of the exitments when you buy a new hardware,is to test your old software on it and see how it run's smooth:(
this kind of protections will only increase piracy.
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 09:09 Post subject: |
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I was gonna buy AC3 soon.Tnx for the warning guys. I'm not going to make this mistake now.
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Neon
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But you guys are going to buy Diablo 3, amirite? 
BTW, I saw absolutely nothing regarding that they want to turn their games into "MMOs", the article is about how they want to change their approach by offering as much stuff for more casual gamers (for instance- Facebook integration, which was already in Brotherhood IIRC) and offering more content, so the DRM is not needed.
| Quote: | Ubisoft's digital boss Chris Early told Eurogamer it hopes strategies including companion gaming, which sees spin-off experiences on mobile devices and social platforms feed into their related core games, and constant game updates, will discourage piracy.
In short, it wants to create systems similar to those used by MMO makers for its games.
"The question is, with enough on-going content development, content release, engagement at the community level, can we create that kind of MMO value system?" Early asked. "I think we can. As the rest of the game industry continues to evolve, the more you hear about cloud gaming, the more you hear about companion gaming, the less a pirated game should work in all of that environment. So, therefore the value of that pirated content becomes less.
"Will some people still pirate? Yeah, they will. Will the person who really wants that broad experience pirate? We hope not." |
| Quote: | | Early said it was only fair that Ubisoft should seek to protect its games from piracy, but admitted it continues to "grapple" with the delicate balance of doing that while not inconveniencing paying customers. |
| Quote: | | There have been different approaches from different publishers at times, some doing no DRM and just assuming it's the cost of doing business. Some are doing a very strict DRM. Some doing an on-going content revision. I don't think we have a single, good answer yet. The interesting thing will be, how do we create enough value that that need for DRM goes away?" |
| Quote: | | Our plan, our hope is we stay on the less intrusive, less cumbersome side of that path as we go on. |
fixfixfixfixfixfixfixfix
Did you guys even read the article?  They basically admitted their mistakes but are not yet sure of the way they're going to take, but their plan and hopes are to " stay on the less intrusive, less cumbersome side of that path" as they go on.
Remember, the newest iteration of their best-selling IP was launched on PC WITHOUT ANY DRM.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 10:39 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | But you guys are going to buy Diablo 3, amirite? |
Nope. 
And as long as some of their games/elements of their games are broken IF you are playing the single player and don't have an internet connection I don't really care.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 15:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 13:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 09:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 09:28 Post subject: |
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let's see if they will keep their promise and remove always online DRM from all current games.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 09:57 Post subject: |
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Yeah, yeah...
Can someone try this with those Anno 2070 bits that only work if you have an online connection?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 10:19 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 11:01 Post subject: |
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Really the way i see stuff like this is, if you do nothing wrong, where is the problem?
Ok it's very intrusive etc, but if you have nothing to hide, where is the problem?
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 11:11 Post subject: ***** |
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*****
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 11:23 Post subject: |
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God i hate the nothing to hide argument.
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Neon
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 11:33 Post subject: |
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Life on nfohump-
Ubisoft includes online-only DRM- I'LL NEVER BUY THEIR PRODUCTS AGAIN UNTIL THEY DROP THE DRM
Ubisoft drops online-only DRM- I'LL NEVER BUY THEIR PRODUCTS AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY DID WHAT I WANTED AND I HAVE NOTHING TO RAGE ABOUT
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 11:38 Post subject: |
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At this point it really doesn't matter if they use the DRM or not. They're still some of the biggest assholes gaming has ever seen. They make better games than most of the other big guys in the industry, but they treat customers like shit.
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Neon
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Define "treat customers like shit". The one time that their DRM severs were down (because they were DDOSed by 4chan, go figure), I received a free game of my choosing, and not some old titles as well, quite new actually.
I understand the reason behind hating this DRM, I really do, but for me personally it isn't that much different from Steam. I am always online regardless, and even if my connection goes down, I can do tethering with my mobile phone and that is enough to have a stable connection with Uibisoft's servers.
Also this part from the RPS article is interesting:
| Quote: | | In the rest of the interview, coming up in a couple of hours, we discuss Ubisoft’s plans to decrease delays for PC releases, try to find out why the publisher doesn’t publish the numbers behind its claims about piracy, and which of the statements they’ve made in recent years that they now find unfortunate. |
EDIT: oh, the interview is actually online:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/05/ubisoft-drm-piracy-interview/
Some interesting bits:
| Quote: | RPS: Last month, on the 21st, Yves Guillemot said Ubisoft’s piracy rates were 90 to 95%, hence the move toward online gaming. But in July last year your DRM was described as being “a success”, and as having shown a clear reduction in piracy. Can you talk about how those two statements square up?
Perotti: With regard to the numbers, the numbers are coming from both internal and external research. Research showed that it can reach that rate for some specific or popular PC games, and that number often varies depending on the territory. So we are not saying that it applies to all PC games for all territories, and we’re not saying that the same situation would apply for any game. |
| Quote: | RPS: But last year it was said that the so-called “always-on” DRM had shown a clear reduction in piracy. The quote was, “A clear reduction in piracy from our titles, which required a persistent online connection, and from that point of view the requirement is a success.” Have you any data to evidence this, and if so, are you going to publish it?
Perotti: I’m not going to comment on data. That was an unfortunate comment. We have listened to feedback, and since June last year our policy for all of PC games is that we only require a one-time online activation when you first install the game, and from then you are free to play the game offline. |
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 11:58 Post subject: |
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| Areius wrote: | | If you don't mind that, would you mind if I fill your house with camera's and monitor you 24/7? |
Ok then, would you like to work on a project for a certain amount of years but not get paid for it?
I.e piracy, that's why they do it because simply they work on projects for years yet people take them for free.
It's all swings and roundabouts.
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 12:00 Post subject: |
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I've bought several Ubi games, I never was treated like shit since I have no fucking interaction with Ubisoft whatsoever. I really do not understand the "the publisher/developers are a bunch of assholes!" argument since I never understand why the fuck it matters. As long as the game is good and support is proper, I don't care who makes the game.
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 14:23 Post subject: |
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Why can't they look up to, for example, Remedy? After AW went on sale on Steam, it turned profit in less than 48 hours and it's a GREAT PC port, with all the stuff a proper port needs. Not sure if big companies like Ubi are just too greedy or ran by complete and utter idiots, but I would say BOTH.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Wed, 5th Sep 2012 15:50 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | Yeah, yeah...
Can someone try this with those Anno 2070 bits that only work if you have an online connection? |
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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