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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 14:11    Post subject:
noflip wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:

omfg.... half life 1 and opposing force expansion are amongs the finest FPS moments in gaming history. play them dude Smile


don't. i know it sounds stupid and a lot of people will attack me literally right after i post this, but in my experience once you've missed a game with more than 7 years after its release it starts to get really hard to enjoy it. yes, HL1 is one of my all time favorite games, and graphics is not what makes a game good, but really outdated graphics and engine could ruin even a perfect game. my advice is to play the second part if you haven't played it yet. it's not the original Half Life for sure, but its a good game and it innovates a lot of things in the gaming industry as a whole. i'm replaying it right now and i`m enjoying it, and yes, im sure this is my last replay of HL2.
if you're so eager to play the original i suggest you wait a bit to see if Black Mesa actually gets released (which i seriously doubt) and play this one.

in my defense for all of the above - people who have played the original when it was released back in `98 can still enjoy the game because they associate the game with the pleasant memories of playing it (or a similar one) and its easier for them to ignore the graphics and engine. if your first game ever played was Half Life 2 - well good luck trying to enjoy everything that came out prior. i entered PC gaming with the endless deathmatches of Quake 2 and Delta Force 1. i know DooM 1 & 2 were considered great games, i didn't manage to look past the visuals and controls of the game and therefore couldn't enjoy them.
Blood 2 was one of my all time favorite games as well and i tried replaying it a couple of years ago. that lasted about 30 minutes. and keep in mind that when it was released it was considered bloody eyecandy.

and as for Black Mesa - fuck this shit, it ain't coming out. fool me 257 times - shame on me. fool me 258 times - shame on ME.


Funny part about Delta Force is that it still looks decent considering how ancient it is.



I'd pay good money for a new Delta Force / Delta Force 2 game that actually stays true to the gameplay of the originals.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 14:15    Post subject:
wow that was 1998? I don't remember it looking this good ?Very Happy

Lighting on the gun, long range distance. nice Razz


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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 14:24    Post subject:
Voxel engine FTW

They used the same engine up until Task Force Dagger. Then when they tried to 'change the direction' of Delta Force with black hawk down they ruined the series IMO.

What is interesting is that back when Delta Force came out most people didn't think it was a very good looking game. We all thought Half-Life was much better looking, or UT.

But if you compare those games to Delta Force now - I think Delta Force has aged a hell of a lot better.

If one were to increase the resolution of the original Delta Force engine/game to support higher resolutions I think it would look pretty damn good still, and really if you look at Task Force Dagger you'll see how good of graphics that voxel engine is capable of doing with increased resolution.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 14:34    Post subject:
Didn't they say that they weren't going to release it episodically a few years ago? Look how that turned out I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 14:36    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
They should ditch the Xen levels and make an alternate ending. That part was crap anyway.

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I was right all along. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 15:16    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Didn't they say that they weren't going to release it episodically a few years ago? Look how that turned out I guess.


We'll see Black Mesa: Episode Two sometime around 2016 Very Happy


VGAdeadcafe wrote:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
They should ditch the Xen levels and make an alternate ending. That part was crap anyway.

Posted: 03 Sep 2010 04:23

I was right all along. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 15:26    Post subject:
been waiting for this to be released so i can play HL2 + eps after
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 16:29    Post subject:
Quote:
On September 14th you will see the first release of Black Mesa!


They didn't specify the year though Laughing
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 16:29    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
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On September 14th you will see the first release of Black Mesa!


They didn't specify the year though Laughing


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:39    Post subject:
The official paga at the Valve Developer Community has been updated, including the exact day/hour of release Smile

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Black_Mesa_%28Source%29#Release_Date

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Black Mesa is set to release on the 14th of September 2012, at 8:47 AM EST, the time of day at which the original Half-Life started.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 21:52    Post subject:
Just seen the news, both relieved and excited. It's going to be shit isn't it Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:00    Post subject:
So many people flipping because of Xen not included. I guess they forgot (or propably don't even know) how huge HL1 is Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:01    Post subject:
xen was a small part which I don't really link to my hl1 experience too much


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:02    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
So many people flipping because of Xen not included. I guess they forgot (or propably don't even know) how huge HL1 is Laughing


The game could be 10 minutes or 10 hours, they're still removing the final part of it. Tell me again how that is okay Laughing Honestly, it's been YEARS so far... I'm sure a decade or two more won't change anything. Cancel the release, fix the finale, then release the whole package.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:03    Post subject:
My most beloved parts aren't on Xen either.

Oh, the soundtrack is quite good too.
http://www.youtube.com/user/JoelNielsenMusic/videos

@Sabin

Well, I think in regards of BMS we should be happy that we get at least something, don't we? I mean, after all, it doesn't even exist Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:04    Post subject:
*shrugs* Any other game from anyone else and this would be cause for uproar, but it's magically okay when it's HL1. I'm going to continue waiting until they release the full package, that's for sure Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:05    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
*shrugs* Any other game from anyone else and this would be cause for uproar, but it's magically okay when it's HL1.


Yup, forgive me. Blind HL1 fanboyism and nostalgia for me. I think I'm allowed to be like this too for once. Aren't I? Sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:06    Post subject:
Everyone is allowed to fanboy over at least one thing <3
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:08    Post subject:
That doesn't mean I'm not agreeing with you there either. I'm just craving for this... after all those Cowadoodoos and such Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:09    Post subject:
I guess I just don't have the same attachment since I always preferred HL2 anyhow, everything about it was just... better. That, of course, doesn't diminish how much I enjoyed HL1 though Wink That's why I'm going to wait for the whole thing, it seems kinda silly to want the game so badly that we're willing to forsake the end of it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:11    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
*shrugs* Any other game from anyone else and this would be cause for uproar, but it's magically okay when it's HL1. I'm going to continue waiting until they release the full package, that's for sure Very Happy


Yes Cool Face

No, really. They are improving tha game beyond the revamping of graphics, with more gameplay options (you use them or not, it's your choice) and now they're overhauling the Xen section of the game which as you see, several big HL fans didn't love that much (I don't include myself in that group though), improving it enough for it to be a separate game. For me that can only be great news Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:11    Post subject:
Xen was the worst part of the proginal game, it was just bullshit. Thank god it's cut out.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:13    Post subject:
Dat soundtrack... so good Shocked


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:16    Post subject:
hm... maybe the Xen level is most complex thing to do,so it taking more time,I wonder people can do the 45 Min speed run this time Razz ?


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:21    Post subject:
This still sound too familiar to that Jedi Knight - Mod called "Knights of the Force". Promised gold and green forest, pushed up release date. To manage to release the thing, it was supposed to be released in two parts.100000 excuses later it actually got released and it was just shit....so well..

Counter or not, I won't hold my breath until this actually IS released and I can try it. If it is, and if it will be good. I'll be the first one to tip my hat of to them.

With that said I hope this will be legit, because a updated HL1 would be a blast!
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:23    Post subject:
I'm not blasting the team, I just think it's a bit odd removing the END of the game just so they can get it out the door faster ... which is odd considering how long the bloody thing has been in development. I'll be the first the shout "This is fucking awesome!!" once I've played it.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I'm not blasting the team, I just think it's a bit odd removing the END of the game just so they can get it out the door faster ... which is odd considering how long the bloody thing has been in development. I'll be the first the shout "This is fucking awesome!!" once I've played it.


That Tim-guy from Knight of the Force did the same...and he had like 100000 of excuses to why it got delayed. He did take money for the thing though, so it was kind of a scam.

I'm with you though, if this turns out good or at least what they promised. I'll be there first in line to give them cred.

After all, it is a mod and most of those things never get completed because there are people doing it on their spare time, so I'm not really blasting the team either.
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:31    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Xen was the worst part of the proginal game, it was just bullshit. Thank god it's cut out.


Dafuq? So, you jump into the portal and then the game should end? Nope, Xen or no Half-Life! Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:31    Post subject:
Back in the 2001 when I first played HL I really hated Xen levels. And this year when I replayed it I really enjoyed those levels...dafuq is wrong?! Im getting old Okay
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PostPosted: Sun, 2nd Sep 2012 22:33    Post subject:
shadow_D wrote:
After all, it is a mod and most of those things never get completed because there are people doing it on their spare time, so I'm not really blasting the team either.


Aye, I may shout "vaporware!" all the time but most of the time that anger and annoyance comes from actually wanting to play the game and having to wait year after year for it. I have full realisation that they're doing this profit-free and in their own time and I will gladly shout their praises once I've played it.

Oh well, I'm sure Xen will be out in the next couple of years and I can wait Very Happy
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