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| sabin1981 wrote: | Aaaand on topic; I finally finished the game  Steam says 40hrs but in-game full play is 25hrs. MAGNIFICENT game through and through, I'm feeling quite hard pushed whether or not that it's better than GTA4 --- the music, the combat, the style, all great. Loved it!
... just a shame the missions were so disjointed, they left me with a feeling that a significant portion of content was randomly cut or dropped from the game  |
Ya but you have to admit:
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The moment you deliver Dog Eyes to be killed by meat hatchet that shit just hits the fan and your eyes are permenantly glued to the fucking screen. Hell, even the wedding massacre, I was like YOU MOTHER FUCKERS!!! ILL KILL ALL OF YOU. They did a really good job at making you feel with the characters, at least IMO. Then at the end when you find out your captain betrayed you and it turns out the lady Red Pole helped you put him behind bars...god...the drama and epicness of feeling the inner falling out of Local bosses was just fucking awesome, and from the perspective of a China tribe instead of these retarded wanna be gangster bullshti games like Saints Row.
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 22:04 Post subject: |
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Hell yeah, dude, hell yeah.
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When Mr Tong killed Jackie, I just went apeshit. I wanted Tong and Big-Smile Lee and every other piece of shit DEAD. Real emotion, real anger, it was glorious. Plus this game has the best damned melee combat since Shenmue
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 22:07 Post subject: |
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Did you who have finished the game use those triad/police outfits to max out your xp gains? If you didn't, did you manage to get all the skills in the different skill trees?
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 22:07 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Hell yeah, dude, hell yeah.
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When Mr Tong killed Jackie, I just went apeshit. I wanted Tong and Big-Smile Lee and every other piece of shit DEAD. Real emotion, real anger, it was glorious. Plus this game has the best damned melee combat since Shenmue
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Wow....I really think I pushed that to the back of mind. I hate to admit it but I threw my controller against the wall I was so pissed lmao.
Combat was such an improvement over Batman's. It didn't seem so rinse and repeat, especially since they borrowed the execution moves they used in The Punisher (was there a game before that who used this?)
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 22:11 Post subject: |
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@inz
I didn't use either outfit, ended up maxing Police WAAAAAY before the end. Strangely, I'm about a third of an XP bar off from maxing Triad though.
@SpykeZ
Yeah man, totally. The game is so satisfying in its combat, everything has weight and the Shenmue-esque street fighting actually made me actively seek out combat at every opportunity, it felt so good. Very, very good game. What few cons it has pale in the epically white light of the pros
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I used environment kills a lot by default, but that last mission? After Jackie's death and the Tong torture scene? I went out of my way to brutally execute every single person. It was delicious.
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 22:21 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | Did you who have finished the game use those triad/police outfits to max out your xp gains? If you didn't, did you manage to get all the skills in the different skill trees? |
I maxed police and almost maxed triad without wearing the outfits.
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 23:13 Post subject: |
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So I've started playing ISO demo, and maybe it's because it's the ISO demo, but so far there's two big things putting me off buying it. Haters gonna hate, here goes:
The mouse. I'm sorry but what the fuck is this shit? This is not even bad porting, this is just fucking mouse control up on purpose; sensitivity in vehicles is 100 times higher, on foot it barely does anything. SpykeZ said they patched it, but considering I'm on 1.4 I'd assume it's in one of these patches? Going to give it a go with the 360 pad anyway.
The driving model. Now, I know I'm an ass when it comes to racing games, I'll take every opportunity to drive crap like Split Second, Burnout and recent NFS games into the ground. However, a game like this should not be as bad as those - yet it is, quite possibly even worse. GTA4's handling I liked, because you could actually control the car; in this one it's like driving a fucking go-kart :/
On the other hand, the fighting system is actually very good; it could be a little more responsive, but it's very good nonetheless. The story so far seems good as well and it's extremely well presented. The game itself isn't bad to look at either and the parkour stuff is a nice addition.
That driving model is pissing me off though, really is. It's actually painful to look at as well, because with the keyboard the camera jerks around every time you steer the tiniest bit. No, that part is something they really should've copied from GTA4 :/
Edit: also had to unplug my goddamn joystick, because the game gets confused; I could use the buttons on the 360 pad just fine, but for movement it decided to use the joystick ?!
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 23:18 Post subject: |
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I think we all relatively hated the driving but we just grew to it since we loved the rest
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| Posted: Tue, 28th Aug 2012 23:35 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 00:10 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | I think we all relatively hated the driving but we just grew to it since we loved the rest |
It works very good with a gamepad. Arcadey, but satisfying. Depends on the car though, some are hard to handle.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 00:11 Post subject: |
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Driving is atrocious in this game, there is no denying it. It's as though there is only 8 directions in which I can drive and flicking the thumb stick in any direction "jumps" over to next predefined direction, it's far from fluid.
However, I am thoroughly enjoying most other aspects of the game at the moment.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 01:23 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | Oh btw., do you get face experience from doing those races, or is it just cash rewards? I've been stalling into getting those, mainly because I keep losing all my money gambling so I've no money to actually afford any of the decent vehicles. Stupid fixed cock fights. |
Just do car hijacking. You'll eventually start hijacking cars worth like 300K |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 01:53 Post subject: |
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The car jacking ends sooner or later though. Only thing that can be repeated ad infinitum is the Knox Transporter highjacking and it barely nets more than 50k. It also gets harder to get rid of the police, so its best to just drive home, park the car in front, go inside and wait for the shit to cool down. Stupid system.
Nevertheless I ended up with over 2 million $ plus at the end, despite buying absolutely everything. Around 500k of the money is DLC though and I won another 100k in gambling.
But even if you lose in gambling and have no DLC there should be roughly 1 million left at the end if you play completionist.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 04:51 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Is this the Win8 thread? |
Ah.....now here is where to piss, I cant find my toilet anymore
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 10:27 Post subject: |
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interesting fact: jackie ma is voiced by edison chen, who starred in infernal affairs, a movie this game is inspired by (and remade by scorcese as the departed, although i personally find the original movie better overall - i recommend it to everyone who hasnt seen it).
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 10:47 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 11:22 Post subject: |
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Camera management is awful, it's responsible for half my deaths during fights.
Mouse sensitivity while driving is pretty bad too.
Fixing those would make this game really good, but right now GTA is above for me.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 11:26 Post subject: |
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I'm playing with my Logitech gamepad by the way. It's been excellent so long for every aspect of the game (specially the fights), driving works great with it too. I only started with the shooting in my last session and of course it doesn't stand a chance against kb/m but at least it's not too hard and apparently not needed too often.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 12:49 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 13:35 Post subject: |
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This game is better than GTA4, you don't even use a gun it's all hand&leg fighting which is awesome and rivals Batman. Mission variety is much better and that was GTA4 weak point, every mission was the same, come, shoot, maybe scripted car chase, repeat, here you can sneak and plant a bug, pick a lock, this already is more variety than last GTA which was a step down from San Andreas in everything except for the technical side (graphics).
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 14:04 Post subject: |
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| madmax17 wrote: | | This game is better than GTA4, you don't even use a gun it's all hand&leg fighting which is awesome and rivals Batman. Mission variety is much better and that was GTA4 weak point, every mission was the same, come, shoot, maybe scripted car chase, repeat, here you can sneak and plant a bug, pick a lock, this already is more variety than last GTA which was a step down from San Andreas in everything except for the technical side (graphics). |
Comparing Sleeping dogs to more than four years old game... Wait for spring 2013 and then come back and tell us which is better Sleeping dogs or GTA V.
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 14:41 Post subject: |
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Completely and utterly missed the point, I mentioned San Andreas as being the better game than GTA4 and how older is it than the latter?
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| Posted: Wed, 29th Aug 2012 14:52 Post subject: |
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| madmax17 wrote: | | Completely and utterly missed the point, I mentioned San Andreas as being the better game than GTA4 and how older is it than the latter? |
San Andreas was third game on same engine... do you remember GTA III?
I enjoyed GTA IV more than Sleeping dogs... Own both games since day one. I was happy and satisfied when I finished GTA IV (took 50-60 hours - 100% save, story 20-24 hours), but after beating Sleeping dogs I am upset. Story was way too short (under 10 hours), cars handling sucks donkey balls, and I cant see your so called variability.
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SOME games work best on gamepads and this is one of them, I've had no issues with responsiveness in the fighting (everything is fluid and immediate) and the driving feels really nice too - though I admit it's far from perfect. I tried playing with the keyboard and mouse and it felt horrible, which is such a shame in contrast to the rest of the port which was really good 
It's most certainly fluid and, as mister_s said, some cars handle better than others. The "SMART" car, and the weaker mopeds and scooters, handle too sharply but others are really smooth.
