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M4trix
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DXWarlock
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Ok I've tried to like it, I REALLY have since it was released as the 'final RTM" on my technet on the 15th
I setup a new HD just for it, booted into and went "ok this is the next windows. lets get use to it" and been using JUST it since wend. in hopes that its just the initial diffidence that I didn't like.
I cant. sure I can 'work around' the metro interface, and can even somehow get a desktop back with shortcuts. But its just not 'right' feeling. It feels like I'm using a ripoff windows on some knockoff console GUI called "Winsole" or something...
And speaking with a few sysadmins for the newspapers we do work for that I had to talk to this week anyway after they got it off MSDN or such. Server 2012 isn't going to be popular at all. Since its a win 8 server version, like server 2008 was win7 server version.
Sure its not a 'big' sample. but some big businesses. Dow Jones/Wall street journal , USA, Time Inc and sys admin of the whole Gannet newspaper companies.
All of them pretty much said "WTF is this? we are sticking with server 2003/2008 until they make one that dosent look like "Sesame street teaches windows" (as one put it)"
And they arent going to be upgrading end user machines either, they are worried the help desk will get 4000 calls a day from people use to windows the way it is..now having to ask for help to do something that they always did and knew how before.
If thats the trend, it worries me. Businesses are a BIG chunk of the domination of windows.
So if nothing else for but the sake of "keeping a similar UI to what I have to work with for all my work" IM sticking with win 7.
Lets hope Win8 SP1 down the road at least adds back in, as an option, the ways people was use to..until they make a step forward in replacing them.
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LeoNatan
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Amazing design work at Microsoft. The consistency is amazing. 
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 21:28 Post subject: |
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Their greed outclasses their need for quality.
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| Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 23:11 Post subject: |
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OCD + 20 Espressos
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Sin317
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i have 0 reason or motivation to switch to another OS in the next couple years.
Windows 7 really turned out to be "XP 2.0" and should have at least another 3-5 years of life in it.
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gospel
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LeoNathan in my italian RTM pro version the error you post in your image are ok for me..so i think is a problemi of the US version or you use a non RTM release..
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JBeckman
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Decided to upgrade anyway, was going to do it eventually so might as well have it out of the way.
Start menu and Metro overlay while annoying and something I probably won't get used to easily are rather minor complaints, of course there's no real reason to upgrade either.
(I have to say though the OS is really fast, shame about the UI menus and such decisions but it'll probably be solved one way or another.)
Will take a few hours to set everything up and such but most of it is done and out of the way now. 
Again though there's no real reason to upgrade either, I just prefer to have the latest available. 
(Early Vista x64 adopter, now that was a problematic experience due to poor driver support initially, after SP1 though and with proper drivers it was pretty good, at least until W7 came out.)
EDIT: Though it doesn't have any real value or use I like how the computer can boot from a complete power down to the actual OS in less than twenty seconds, something about the Bios as I've understood it.
(Asus updated against some new format a while back, update was a bit cumbersome but this latest release is quite good.)
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Aug 2012 18:57 Post subject: |
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| gospel wrote: | | LeoNathan in my italian RTM pro version the error you post in your image are ok for me..so i think is a problemi of the US version or you use a non RTM release.. |
What error? You mean the visual imperfections? The images are taken from RTM version. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 17:49 Post subject: |
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Just got the RTM and I will say that I am not impressed. And whats the deal with a pagefile.sys and a swapfile.sys?
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Well, I had to reformat my laptop, so I put win8 on it, since I had it free on Dreamspark.
Well... my god it's ugly!
And I don't mean metro, I mean the "normal" UI. Everything is grey, no transparencies, no color, bars and buttons blend with the rest of the UI so you can barely make them out... it looks more similar to win 98 than win 7....
And don't get me started on Visual Studio 2012, that must be the biggest load of UI bullshit since Microsoft Bob...
On the other hand, the new file explorer is good imho.
One question: if I wanted one of those third party applications to restore the classic win 7 start menu, which one would you recommend and why??
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Seriously Microsoft, seriously?!
SERIOUSLY?!
this is the redesign? It's fucking pathetic imo...
Who works at the design part of MS?!
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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tablets are just a trend
anyone else still remember how ppl freaked out when notebooks came out and some hw companies said" netboosk will kill pc" now its a nieche as will be the tablet market so building your OS on some temporary trend isnt the smart thing to do ;>
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LeoNatan
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Niche? What the fuck you talking about? In fact, if I didn't want to play games, I'd remain my ass to laptop only. In fact, laptops have been a constant thorn in the PC gaming ass, with their pathetic hardware and integrated nonsense. I created the laptop "gamer" derp for a reason ( ). But if you ain't gaming, laptops are a much preferred solution. Less noise, less heat, much less space, elegant, powerful enough for almost anything, mobile. With the MacBook Air (and other ultraportables), the size and power variables are even more moot, as these tiny things are workhorses (considerably for their size), while being very nice to carry. Please don't compare a laptop to a tablet. Tablet also has its place, it is very nice to consume data on, for instance. Reading on the iPad, especially with its high-density screen is very nice.
However, and there's a large one, an OS for one does not fit the other, and vice versa. Microsoft has to do this welding to ensure an artificial potential to their market, and fool developers into thinking this is the future, and they should invest in their platform.
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| Posted: Fri, 24th Aug 2012 00:27 Post subject: I have left. |
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Somehow Linux and laptops are mutually exclusive Or external keyboards when not not on the move
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