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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 18:16 Post subject: |
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But what if mods gets updated for new "version"?
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 18:18 Post subject: |
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reb0rn wrote: | But what if mods gets updated for new "version"? |
That's a big if. Read the link I posted, some of the major mods don't work and the developers of each mods aren't even sure if they'll bother working on it. IF they do, then of course my opinion will change .. but for NOW? Today? This minute? The re-release is a waste of money.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 20:59 Post subject: |
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My god the game runs at 15 FPS during the battles. It's incredibly annoying! Well, I guess I'm back playing Phantasy Star on RetroArch.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 21:27 Post subject: I have left. |
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 21:32 Post subject: I have left. |
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 22:35 Post subject: I have left. |
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Final.Fantasy.VII.Remake-RELOADED
rld-ff7 - 1.98 GB
Spoiler: | nERv
Final Fantasy VII New (c) Square Enix
08/2012 :..... RELEASE.DATE .. PROTECTION .......: SecuromCustom
1 :.......... DISC(S) .. GAME.TYPE ........: RPG
Note
This is a new version of FF7. While it isn't a full remake, it has been
updated to allow it to run on modern pc setups, and comes with some other
new features
An evil and powerful corporation is slowly draining life from the planet in
an effort to control the universe
However, a small rebellion, know as AVALANCE, has vowed to put an end to
this destructive plan
You take on the role of Cloud Strife. An ex-SOLDIER of the evil Shinra
corporation. Cloud joins AVALANCE initially as a selfish mercenary. But
becomes much more involved in this mysterious epic of friendship, love and
the battle between good and evil
Explore massive, beautifully-rendered locations in this amazing adventure
that goes beyond reality
Team-up with and play a total of nine characters
Battle deadly creatures created by Shinra in this state-of-the-art
"real-time" turned-based battle system
Over 60 minutes of cinematic sequences
Challange yourself in the seven mini-games and several sub-quests
1. Unrar
2. Burn or mount the image
3. Install the game.
4. Copy the content from /Crack directory on the DVD to the install
directory of the game. We recommend firewalling all game exes as well
5. Play the game. The launcher will fail at getting updates. Click continue
6. When you save/load you must wait for the online sync to fail
until you can save/load
7. Support the software developers. If you like this game, BUY IT |
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 12:47 Post subject: |
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epsxe is probably still a batter way to play this.
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 18:05 Post subject: |
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remyleblau wrote: | epsxe is probably still a batter way to play this. |
Nah, for any new player 'remake' should be the starting point. Its a decent thing, no hastle with mods, everything works out of the box on modern machines. In some parts old modded pc version is better, but but it is quite a pain to get working and there are already conversion mods on the way that will allow modding in this new version.
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 18:09 Post subject: |
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What "parts" of the new release are better than the modded original? Also, where did you read about "conversion mods", please? Qhimm offers the opposite impression from where I'm sitting, devs of the bigger mods (such as world texture/model replacement and Menu Overhaul) aren't willing to invest the time and since a lot of the original mods rely on hex editing the .EXE, you'd just be wasting your time getting the "re-release" since you'd have to use the OLDER mods and OLDER EXE anyhow -- in essence making the re-release far more trouble than just modding the original. Not to mention that visual and gameplay overhaul mods generally depend on the Aali OGL driver and if he doesn't recode it to work on the new DirectX-based FF7, then that's all she wrote. Game over. At least the editor apps work, with a bit of trouble, such as ProudClod and WallMarket.
If the game can be made backwards compatible and existing mods become available, then that's all well and good .. but it isn't right now .. and as I said, even if it was made backwards compatible, you'd still need to download the huge mods anyhow. So to sum up;
If you want a vanilla experience with or without improved visuals, get the PS1 version and use ePSXe and Native Res upscaling.
If you want a vastly improved experience, get the 1998 PC release and mod it with Bootleg.
This current re-release brings nothing to the table except dodgy MIDI audio encoded as OGG and "high res" mode built in. In order to mod it with any degree of satisfaction you'll end up devolving it into the 1998 model (there's even a PATCH that does exactly that; turns 2012 version into 1998 one so it's ready for modding) which then begs the question; Why not just get the 98 version in the first place? No messing around, just install Bootleg and configure.
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 22:42 Post subject: |
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Qhimm is not everything. If some of the guys there really want to keep modding old pc version, let them. 2012 pc is the stepping stone for next work. OGG support alone allows for very easy music customization. It has by far the best fmv quality among all versions and inbuilt high resolution offers a nice and completely authentic alternative to old modded pc version. Terrain mod that you are using does look better than original, but at times it certainly looks out of place.
For anyone already owning a pc version the improvement shouldn't mean a thing. It would be even hard to suggest it to those that played it on ps1. But lets not forget that we are talking about new players here. Would you really recommend them to follow all these steps?
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13212.msg183581#msg183581
Even finding torrents of old pc version is not that simple. And if they want originals, well good luck on Amazon and ebay. Last time I heard they sold for around 100 bucks.
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 22:47 Post subject: |
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Seeing as how all the major modders are part of Qhimm, I'd say it was everything. What steps? The page you linked to was a photographic tutorial (because you know how stupid people can be) and then a list of filenames, descriptions and downloads .. the mod installer is called "Bootleg" and it tells you what files to get -- all you do is run the installer. Running a single EXE and selecting tick boxes is too complex? Teh terror! I'm still curious as to what parts of the new one you consider better (I personally prefer DLPB's sharpened FMVs) and where you heard about these conversion mods. Typing "FF7 PC torrent" into Google yields dozen of hits and - as I've already said - any modding you do to 2012 will use the same files you'd use on 1998, but with the added complication of having to mess around with 2012 to get it compatible. So what's the point? Just use 98 and be done with it.
Ah well, to each his own You can recommend the 2012 and I'll keep recommending the 1998 one. It hurts nobody to have options.
~edit~
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13429.0
That's the only "conversion" mod I can find ANY info about... and it's not converting existing mods to work with the new release, it's totally converting the new release into the OLD one, so you won't get any of the new features or whatever SE reckon they did - it will be the 1998 copy in every possible way, except glitchier since the patch doesn't work completely yet. You can choose to keep the new FMVs if you prefer those .. but, like I said already, this just makes the new game into the old one .. you'll still need to download the mods, still need to configure, still need to do everything that the old one requires -- so what's the point?
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:08 Post subject: |
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Any major issues or differences between the Reloaded release and the P2P one? I loaned my original discs out many many years ago and lost contact with the guy so this re-release works out for me.
couleur wrote: | Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder.  |
couleur wrote: | If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s |
russ80 wrote: | Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON. |
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:10 Post subject: |
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Yeah, the RLD release has a fully working crack that doesn't *seem* to have save/load/login issues. Just DON'T block FF7_Launcher.exe in the FW, only block FF7_en.exe. If you block launcher then it won't let you save/load.
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Posted: Wed, 22nd Aug 2012 23:14 Post subject: |
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sabin1981 wrote: | Yeah, the RLD release has a fully working crack that doesn't *seem* to have save/load/login issues. Just DON'T block FF7_Launcher.exe in the FW, only block FF7_en.exe. If you block launcher then it won't let you save/load. |
Ahh okay. Thanks Sabin! I'll just grab the crack then.
couleur wrote: | Everything I don't understand is a mental disorder.  |
couleur wrote: | If the illegals are drowning its their fault for attempting to cross the river in the first place. Especially the children. /s |
russ80 wrote: | Who cares about gameplay. It's one of the few next-gen looking titles out there so BRING IT ON. |
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 05:36 Post subject: |
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Reached the part where the pillar collapses, forgot that this game was actually really fun, just running around and trying to earn better equipment (Where was that replacement for the buster sword anyway.) and some more levels, game is still quite challenging but probably nothing to talk about compared to some of the mods and compilations available.
Forgot that the dialogue was pretty funny too, don't remember much of the story either, I reached the second continent or so originally (There was a bug with some astrology lab after some boss in a cave area so I couldn't proceed.) but I don't remember much of what happened, will be interesting to replay the game.
Would be nice if they ever did a full HD remake eventually but there's no guarantee it'll also be available for PC if they did such a thing.
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 09:11 Post subject: |
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They could release FF9 on PC. It had some cool characters and was similar in combat to FF7.
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 12:05 Post subject: |
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@sabin: can you recommend some mods specifically? No game changers, just mods for visuals.
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 12:41 Post subject: |
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Yeah, Sabin, please list all the mods in that, looks amazing. I did some model changes some time ago but it didn't look that good, fonts and all.
tnx
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 13:16 Post subject: |
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@JB
You'll get Cloud's first Buster replacement in Kalm, the first town you visit on the world map. Or if you're playing gjoerulv's HC mod, you can STEAL from Soldier 3rd Class in the Shinra Building and get Hardedge, one of the more powerful weapons you'll have for the first 10hrs of the game.
@Mister_s/Mirko0dora
To be honest, I don't bother with individual mods, I tend to use the whole pack -- but you can use Bootleg and just configure it for visual tweaks, leaving gameplay changes/enhancements alone. Such as these;
Upscaled Magic Graphics
Hi Res Field Textures
FF7Music Installer
Remastered Soundtrack for FF7Music
AC Style Tifa Model
AC Style Yuffie Model
Battle art enhancement as PNG Pack 1
Battle art enhancement as PNG Pack 2
Battle art enhancement as PNG Pack 3 (don't bother with the LGP version, it slows the game down)
Menu Overhaul
FMV's with ReTranslation (if you use the ReTranslation project, which I recommend as it retranslates a huge portion of the game direct from the Japanese source)
Models (radical visual updates to weapon models)
Hi Res Field Textures (for battle/exploration visuals)
The best thing about Bootleg is that, once you've configured it how you'd like, it then tells you exactly what files are needed. It DID used to give you direct download links too, but the majority were hosted on Mediafire and, sadly, the uploader had his account removed. So now you should keep an eye on;
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=12503.msg173799#msg173799
As that has mirrors for the files. Fawe is right; it is a pain to go through all this, but once you've got the files downloaded in the MODS folder and you've run BFE.exe, it's as easy as ticking a box or selecting a drop-down menu and most of it can be left as default (options such as "BOOTLEG" are basically community-chosen mixes of the best textures and best settings)
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 13:28 Post subject: |
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Yeah I saw "Hardedge" mentioned in a FAQ I was browsing through while going past the 64th floor in that HQ.
Currently killing big angry (And completely unfair) snakes which is not at all recommended compared to what you should do but now and then I manage to defeat one, return to the save point and save the game and then going for another, need the XP and "Gil" plus I believe a special cave was located nearby guarded by some knight of sorts.
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 14:13 Post subject: |
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How are the musics, do they sound anything like the original?
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 14:17 Post subject: |
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@JB
Yeah, stealing is a PITA since it fails so often until you get the Thief Glove. Best you can do is just keep trying until you get bored, lol!
@Kaan_
The 2012 release has OGG converts of the 1998 PC MIDI arrangements. In other words; ear rape. You can replace them with your own tracks, but you'll need to source that from somewhere.
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=10546.0
https://rapidshare.com/#!download|879p10|3555615999|OSTRe.7z|387240|0|0
Try those.
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Posted: Thu, 23rd Aug 2012 14:20 Post subject: |
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sabin1981 wrote: | @JB
You'll get Cloud's first Buster replacement in Kalm, the first town you visit on the world map. Or if you're playing gjoerulv's HC mod, you can STEAL from Soldier 3rd Class in the Shinra Building and get Hardedge, one of the more powerful weapons you'll have for the first 10hrs of the game.
@Mister_s/Mirko0dora
To be honest, I don't bother with individual mods, I tend to use the whole pack -- but you can use Bootleg and just configure it for visual tweaks, leaving gameplay changes/enhancements alone. Such as these;
Upscaled Magic Graphics
Hi Res Field Textures
FF7Music Installer
Remastered Soundtrack for FF7Music
AC Style Tifa Model
AC Style Yuffie Model
Battle art enhancement as PNG Pack 1
Battle art enhancement as PNG Pack 2
Battle art enhancement as PNG Pack 3 (don't bother with the LGP version, it slows the game down)
Menu Overhaul
FMV's with ReTranslation (if you use the ReTranslation project, which I recommend as it retranslates a huge portion of the game direct from the Japanese source)
Models (radical visual updates to weapon models)
Hi Res Field Textures (for battle/exploration visuals)
The best thing about Bootleg is that, once you've configured it how you'd like, it then tells you exactly what files are needed. It DID used to give you direct download links too, but the majority were hosted on Mediafire and, sadly, the uploader had his account removed. So now you should keep an eye on;
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=12503.msg173799#msg173799
As that has mirrors for the files. Fawe is right; it is a pain to go through all this, but once you've got the files downloaded in the MODS folder and you've run BFE.exe, it's as easy as ticking a box or selecting a drop-down menu and most of it can be left as default (options such as "BOOTLEG" are basically community-chosen mixes of the best textures and best settings) |
Does it work with the new FF7?
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