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| tonizito wrote: | | puzl wrote: | | Oh and I also have the PS3 hooked up to my main HP LP2475W monitor, which is one of the absolute best for colour + image quality. Again, Dark Souls looks great, even though it doesn't use the native resolution for my monitor and i'm sat about 1ft away from the screen. I'd prefer the FOV was a bit wider, but it's certainly not vomit inducing like most games are today |
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That looks great to you? To each his own, I've got no problem with that.
But defending them for not giving a fuck about the PC version?
Sorry but that really just makes you look like a blinded fanboy.
I will DL this, I will play it, if it's as good as it seems to be I'll even buy it but defend those namco and from software fuckers for a shit port?
Never. |
The game looks absolutely fine in motion and like I have said a thousand times in this thread, people specifically wanted Dark Souls the game, not Dark Souls the tech demo. Gameplay > Graphics and Dark Souls is a great game. It's as simple as that.
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Neon
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:03 Post subject: |
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| puzl wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | | puzl wrote: | | Oh and I also have the PS3 hooked up to my main HP LP2475W monitor, which is one of the absolute best for colour + image quality. Again, Dark Souls looks great, even though it doesn't use the native resolution for my monitor and i'm sat about 1ft away from the screen. I'd prefer the FOV was a bit wider, but it's certainly not vomit inducing like most games are today |
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That looks great to you? To each his own, I've got no problem with that.
But defending them for not giving a fuck about the PC version?
Sorry but that really just makes you look like a blinded fanboy.
I will DL this, I will play it, if it's as good as it seems to be I'll even buy it but defend those namco and from software fuckers for a shit port?
Never. |
The game looks absolutely fine in motion and like I have said a thousand times in this thread, people specifically wanted Dark Souls the game, not Dark Souls the tech demo. Gameplay > Graphics and Dark Souls is a great game. It's as simple as that. |
Fine, how would you feel if Dark Souls was originally a PS2 game and then it was ported over to X360 and PS3 with the original 640x448 resolution, and everything higher than that was upscaled?
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:05 Post subject: |
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| puzl wrote: | | The game looks absolutely fine in motion and like I have said a thousand times in this thread, people specifically wanted Dark Souls the game, not Dark Souls the tech demo. Gameplay > Graphics and Dark Souls is a great game. It's as simple as that. |
Oh...
So I guess Terraria, Braid, Lost Planet, Silent Hill 3 and every other indie and port that have proper resolution support are "tech demos"? 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:08 Post subject: |
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Stop whining you PC elitist pricks! GAMEPLAY>GRAPHICS and ART DIRECTION>RESOLUTION!1!!1!!!
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:10 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | puzl wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | | Spoiler: | |
That looks great to you? To each his own, I've got no problem with that.
But defending them for not giving a fuck about the PC version?
Sorry but that really just makes you look like a blinded fanboy.
I will DL this, I will play it, if it's as good as it seems to be I'll even buy it but defend those namco and from software fuckers for a shit port?
Never. |
The game looks absolutely fine in motion and like I have said a thousand times in this thread, people specifically wanted Dark Souls the game, not Dark Souls the tech demo. Gameplay > Graphics and Dark Souls is a great game. It's as simple as that. |
Fine, how would you feel if Dark Souls was originally a PS2 game and then it was ported over to X360 and PS3 with the original 640x448 resolution, and everything higher than that was upscaled? |
How would you feel if a PS3 emulator was released for the PC and it provided the exact same quality you got from the PS3, but with nothing else added? I doubt you'd feel cheated just because you're getting a comparable game, but without anything more that the PC can supply.
It's a PS3 title and people thought this game was good enough in it's current console state to want to play it on the PC. Namco seems to have delivered a 100% faithful port, so in this respect, they delivered exactly what was promised. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'd love PC-specific optimisations, but it's not going to happen, so there's little point moaning about it. Either buy the game, download it, or leave it entirely. All I know is people are missing out on a great game if they literally can't get past things like texture quality or resolution/framerate. They weren't a game breaker on the PS3 version and they won't be on the PC version, at least for me.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:11 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | puzl wrote: | | The game looks absolutely fine in motion and like I have said a thousand times in this thread, people specifically wanted Dark Souls the game, not Dark Souls the tech demo. Gameplay > Graphics and Dark Souls is a great game. It's as simple as that. |
Oh...
So I guess Terraria, Braid, Lost Planet, Silent Hill 3 and every other indie and port that have proper resolution support are "tech demos"? |
Did you play the Silent Hill HD collection? LOL, the framerate was worse than the PS2 original.
The other games had artwork/assets which were natively at 1080p or higher too, afaik. Dark Souls was made for consoles and a PC version was never in the original plan, hence why the port is limited now. I'd love to see a high-res, 1080p+ version of Dark Souls, but sadly I doubt it exists in the first place.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:13 Post subject: |
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That last affirmation you did.. you can't ask for fucking more from the PS3. It's technically impossible, the Cell CPU and the GPU just suck.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:23 Post subject: |
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Do you think anybody played Dark Souls because it was 1080p 60 FPS?!? They played it for the gaemplayz. Here From Software are giving you a gift for free, and you dare criticize them!?!
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:25 Post subject: |
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Any company that expects me to pay ABOVE the average for PC games, especially when said game is a port of a year++ old product, better damn well have something to show for such a demand. If we got the exact same PS360 game on release day that would be worth something (though I'd still be livid about the framebuffer nonsense) -- but to make people wait a year++ and then not even bother catering to the platform? No sir, I don't like it.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:26 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | | Here From Software are giving you a gift for free, and you dare criticize them!?! |
Oh, since when: "for free" =/= €39,99? 
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:31 Post subject: |
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Dark Souls is £29.99, which is the average for PC games now. It's actually cheaper at GMG too and I only paid £24 for it there.
djaoni probably means "free" as in most people here will warez it anyway. People need to be aware though that without the online features, you're missing out on the best parts of Dark Souls like invasions, co-op, pvp etc...
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:33 Post subject: |
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| djaoni wrote: | | Would anyone buy a blu-ray if it was VHS quality? I mean, the content is the same, and you watch movies for the content, right? |
Shhh, don't use logic!!!
In all seriousness, pushing aside the jocular nonsense, the game is great -- or rather, Demon's Souls was great and I've heard nothing but good about DaSouls, so it's worth playing... but the company isn't above reproach for the horribly shoddy way they're handling the release. "We have no experience with PCs" is bullshit, Ninja Blade was a perfectly adequate port and even if they DIDN'T have experience, they should have outsourced to someone who did. I hate the fact that people are playing this off as a "favour" to PC gamers .. it's not a fucking favour, it's a SERVICE! If they were giving the game away then it would be a favour and a gift, but they're asking €40 (which is above-average for PC titles anywhere except Steam  ) and thus that means they're providing a service, a product, and asking payment in return.
Since they're asking payment then that means they're not above reproach and customers are ENTITLED (oh look, the correct usage of the word!) to criticise and demand quality.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:35 Post subject: |
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| puzl wrote: | Did you play the Silent Hill HD collection? LOL, the framerate was worse than the PS2 original.
The other games had artwork/assets which were natively at 1080p or higher too, afaik. Dark Souls was made for consoles and a PC version was never in the original plan, hence why the port is limited now. I'd love to see a high-res, 1080p+ version of Dark Souls, but sadly I doubt it exists in the first place. |
I didn't even mentioned framerate that much on my posts (I think?) so... what?
But are you really going to stick with that ridiculous tech demo argument?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:40 Post subject: |
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The game is worth playing despite being the 3rd worst port of all time, it's just not worth paying any money for in its current state.
What From-defenders don't realize is that they're basically saying that From Software are the most incompetent devs in the world.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:47 Post subject: |
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Hey, all I'm defending is the game itself, not Namco or FROM's decisions with this port. Unlike Sabin, I have actually played the game and aside from a few frame rate mishaps (which appear to be fixed in the PC version anyway) the game is insane amounts of fun and both a joy to play and watch.
All I know is that a 100% faithful reproduction of Dark Souls is still way and beyond better than any other game released this year. Whether you think it's worth the purchase is completely up to you, but I'm very much looking forward to the new content and finally being able to play the game with an even frame rate with my PC-exclusive buddies. It's gonna be a blast.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 14:57 Post subject: |
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I don't mean anyone in particular when I say "defenders". There are people(across the internets) that are unintentionally saying that From Software is the absolute worst dev in the world.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 15:12 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 15:14 Post subject: |
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| puzl wrote: | Hey, all I'm defending is the game itself, not Namco or FROM's decisions with this port. Unlike Sabin, I have actually played the game and aside from a few frame rate mishaps (which appear to be fixed in the PC version anyway) the game is insane amounts of fun and both a joy to play and watch.
All I know is that a 100% faithful reproduction of Dark Souls is still way and beyond better than any other game released this year. Whether you think it's worth the purchase is completely up to you, but I'm very much looking forward to the new content and finally being able to play the game with an even frame rate with my PC-exclusive buddies. It's gonna be a blast. |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Aug 2012 15:25 Post subject: |
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...shit 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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