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crackerbear




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 22:39    Post subject:
It's probably too early for anyone to know the answer to this, but is the FLT release playable online (possibly with Hamachi/Tunngle/Greenluma/Smartsteam)?

I have a feeling it probably won't be given how the demo required invites through Steam Friends. I guess I'll try and pick it up cheap during Xmas, assuming it goes on sale.

Edit:- OK apparently you can play co-op via GreenLuma.


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PowerGamer




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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 23:12    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
PowerGamer wrote:
human_steel wrote:
Yes, they do.

For example?

Numerous games and their subsequent patches have been released by Theta whereas the Scene only does so with the main game and doesn't bother onward.

Well, since you want an example: Alan Wake and AW: American Nightmare.


Lets see:
15-02-2012 Alan.Wake-SKIDROW.nfo
15-02-2012 Alan.Wake.CE.v1.00.16.3209.multi10.cracked-THETA.nfo

2012-05-22 Alan.Wakes.American.Nightmare-RELOADED.nfo <-- date from orlydb.com
22-05-2012 Alan.Wake's.American.Nightmare.v1.00.16.8760.multi6.cracked.READ.NFO-THETA.nfo

Same day releases do not prove your statement (THETA might have been a few hours earlier to release or THETA uploaded before they noticed an earlier scene release).
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 00:22    Post subject:
All I know is that Theta doesn't regulate its actions in accordance to the Scene's. Plus, they're not part of it - all the more reason not to care about their rules.

Can't point you to other games as well since that's not a priority of my memory to keep check of such things, but I've seen them put games past scene release not once or twice.
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 01:18    Post subject:
crackerbear wrote:
It's probably too early for anyone to know the answer to this, but is the FLT release playable online (possibly with Hamachi/Tunngle/Greenluma/Smartsteam)?

Edit:- OK apparently you can play co-op via GreenLuma.

Yes,Greenluma and some shady files from "that russian forum" makes it work perfectly
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crackerbear




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 02:26    Post subject:
BettyShikle wrote:
Yes,Greenluma and some shady files from "that russian forum" makes it work perfectly

I could be mistaken, but I can't see the current workaround working for very long, it seems it's just using the steam appid of Serious Sam HD: The Second Encounter. When Steam catch on there's suddenly a huge influx of people playing that game, they'll know something's up.

If my memory serves me right, I believe a similar thing happened when Civ 5 got released and cracked. It was a case of jumping around different steam appids, finding one that worked. Eventually I think they plugged them all.
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 02:38    Post subject:
This happens with every Steamworks game that has MP.Payday,Dead Island,you name it.Appid's work for 2 Days,then they get disabled,a few weeks later someone figures another working one out and so on and on.

So yes,youre right Very Happy
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jermore




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 02:58    Post subject:
crackerbear wrote:
BettyShikle wrote:
Yes,Greenluma and some shady files from "that russian forum" makes it work perfectly

I could be mistaken, but I can't see the current workaround working for very long, it seems it's just using the steam appid of Serious Sam HD: The Second Encounter. When Steam catch on there's suddenly a huge influx of people playing that game, they'll know something's up.

If my memory serves me right, I believe a similar thing happened when Civ 5 got released and cracked. It was a case of jumping around different steam appids, finding one that worked. Eventually I think they plugged them all.

Pretty much all steam games work at any given time, at least in my experience, you can actually use a $2 retail game appid and I doubt it would ever get blocked, most people prefer to use the free ones of course, which do get blocked regularly. SSHD has been going on several months now.. steam sure are sloppy about the whole situation- not that I mind Laughing
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 03:59    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
you can actually use a $2 retail game appid and I doubt it would ever get blocked

are you implying that, you could use the appid of a cheapass game on any pirated mp game as long as the cheap one is in your account?
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rubim




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 05:10    Post subject:
BettyShikle wrote:
jermore wrote:
you can actually use a $2 retail game appid and I doubt it would ever get blocked

are you implying that, you could use the appid of a cheapass game on any pirated mp game as long as the cheap one is in your account?


Yep.

Thats what i did for Dead Island and Payday (at least to play with my friends), you wont be able to find random guys playing this game with that method since everyone will use a different appid.
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 05:57    Post subject:
GreenLuma - Installed steam, copied greenLuma files into steam. Already grabbed "Orcs.Must.Die.2.Crack.MP-manuelin" (which included appid file) and put those in the FLT release folder.
Now what? Do I run greenluma first and this FLT game must be on left side and installed to work? If so, it sys ORC2 (Install).That dont work. or..do I keep greenluma open, then run the game separately?
If I run the OrcsMustDie2.exe file, game boots up, but how do I invite people? Shift+tab?
I already have a legit steam game Call of Duty if that matters.


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frogster




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 08:13    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
SteamDRM wrote:
Meh, you can play coop only with one of your steam friends, not with random people...
No buy!


Who would wanna play with random people anyway?


on my main steam i have about 20 people, which are trully friends. not random crap from internet.

from them, probably 2-3 will buy the same games like me.
chance to be all online at the same time, and have the same time availible to play are close to 0.
no buy from me. that kind of limitation blows.
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keewee23




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 09:16    Post subject:
orcs must die 2- cpu 99%, mouse lags, anyone with same problems?

e8400
4gb ddr2
560ti

edit: few alt-tab resolve mouse lag, but cpu still 99%
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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 09:58    Post subject:
Bad cpu...BAAAAD CPU.

Anyway

orcs must die <3333 best game evur =)

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keewee23




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 10:01    Post subject:
i see by your post that you are really inteligent,.. bad cpu , y right,..


Why walk, when you can ride.
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jermore




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 10:10    Post subject:
Well your CPU is certainly far from great, that he is correct about. Probably not the issue even still.

Although I believe the engine is UE3 which is highly CPU dependent, I really think they've done something weird with it as performance is not brilliant even on my i7.
Nowhere near pegged at 99% here, but I get some pretty random slowdowns at times.

I'm just gonna recommend ditching the FLT version if you're using it. Their prototype crack is sloppy, and this may be more of the same.
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keewee23




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 10:41    Post subject:
yea, slowdowns, i think that is not cpu related, playing crysis 2, serious sam 3 fluidly, only gothic 4 has also slowdowns, but gothic 4 is not optimized good,..


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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 12:59    Post subject:
keewee23 wrote:
yea, slowdowns, i think that is not cpu related, playing crysis 2, serious sam 3 fluidly, only gothic 4 has also slowdowns, but gothic 4 is not optimized good,..


Sure you are.

I had an e8400 ages ago, it's bottlenecking hard in crysis 2 for ex, my old 560ti was working only at 50% because of it. SS3 and gothic 4 might not be cpu heavy though, no idea bout those.

As soon as i upgraded to a i5 suddenly bam 99% usage on my gpu.

Get over it really, the e8400 was the best dual cpu with nice OC too but nowadays it's old. Get with the times and get a i5 or dont complain.

About OMD2 i got no issues whatsoever, perfectly smooth with 4x AA 1080p no stutter no slowdown nothing -> this to the i7 comment above. This is on a i5 2500 stock + gtx 680.
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1n2D33p




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 15:33    Post subject:
keewee23 wrote:
orcs must die 2- cpu 99%, mouse lags, anyone with same problems?

e8400
4gb ddr2
560ti

edit: few alt-tab resolve mouse lag, but cpu still 99%


Exact same issue here, CPU clogged ingame. Hoping for a proper sometime in the near future...


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keewee23




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 16:31    Post subject:
russ80, you cant say that orcs must die are more cpu hungry then crysis 2,.. i have 50, 70, 110 fps in crysis 2, same in serious sam,.. i know e8400 is old, but he still kicks,.. it is all about optimization,.. look two worlds 2 , divinity series, fluid like shit,.
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blackdochia




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 16:34    Post subject:
Why the orcs must die a sceond time?! Why, I ask you?!

What do you have against the poor creatures?! They are just idiots! They don't deserve to die! Especially in those imaginative ways...
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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 16:40    Post subject:
keewee23 wrote:
russ80, you cant say that orcs must die are more cpu hungry then crysis 2,.. i have 50, 70, 110 fps in crysis 2, same in serious sam,.. i know e8400 is old, but he still kicks,.. it is all about optimization,.. look two worlds 2 , divinity series, fluid like shit,.


Depends on title like i said, this being an indie one i don't expect anything from it tbh.

I'm just sayin it's not your gpu that's at fault here, take it or leave it.
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keewee23




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 16:42    Post subject:
who said anything about gpu,..


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frogster




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 16:54    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
keewee23 wrote:
russ80, you cant say that orcs must die are more cpu hungry then crysis 2,.. i have 50, 70, 110 fps in crysis 2, same in serious sam,.. i know e8400 is old, but he still kicks,.. it is all about optimization,.. look two worlds 2 , divinity series, fluid like shit,.


Depends on title like i said, this being an indie one i don't expect anything from it tbh.

I'm just sayin it's not your gpu that's at fault here, take it or leave it.



http://www.robotentertainment.com/forum/topic/ORCS-MUST-DIE-2-100-CPU-usage

and there were some reports on steam forums aswell about cpu usage, i read them when i was trying to find if i wil buy it or not.
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russ80




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 16:58    Post subject:
keewee23 wrote:
who said anything about gpu,..


That's the point. The cpu is at fault.
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 22:23    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
keewee23 wrote:
who said anything about gpu,..


That's the point. The cpu is at fault.

Stop being retarded, all current games are playable on c2d e8400 with good gfx, I should know. Stop your offtopic shit please. Laughing

I'm downloading now, I'm sure it will run great like everything else. (well, mine is oc'ed @ 3.3ghz since I got it)
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Mikey5449
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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 22:49    Post subject:
Anyone happen to know where the savegames are stored for this? I wanted to xfer my stuff back and forth from my laptop/desktop but Steam Cloud doesn't seem to be implemented/supported and I couldn't find any actual save files in the usual locations.

Thanks in advance.
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Airwolf




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 22:58    Post subject:
Great game.

Those endless fights are super hard. I managed to get to wave 14 barely, then i went down faster than a hooker on friday night. Still need to explore couple of the traps and weapons tho.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 23:29    Post subject:
Made it to wave 34 or so i think on the first map, after that i got trolled hard Sad Laughing
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 01:04    Post subject:
This game is -guess what- absolutely amazing and addictive, just like the first one Razz.

It's basically a more of the same, but with much more variety/upgrades and more satisfying physics. Good stuff!
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Airbag




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Aug 2012 03:38    Post subject:
Just finished the campaign with my bro in co-op. Definitely enjoyable.
Tried endless on the first map just for fun, now its suddenly 3:40 AM... But we made it to wave 41, which was unexpected, since we started by dicking around with void walls and some unupgraded ceiling boulder things Laughing
Got our act together tho when we noticed it might be doable and placed tar everywhere, also acid walls and haymakers with a max amount of archers on the bridge. Epic stuff, especially when the things come out you haven't seen in the campaign on War Mage difficulty yet Very Happy
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