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Neon
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My soon to be wife is much more beautiful than all of those girls. It's called love, call it hormonal imbalace or some kind of divine intervention. If you feel the need to fuck some other girl while you're in a relationship, you should end that relationship.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:15 Post subject: |
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Am I the only one who finds it irritating to read such bullshit? Just because someone else has the backbone of a slug and the control of a date-rape victim, doesn't mean everyone else should be like them. I've never cheated in a relationship, not ever, and I've had plenty of chances. I just don't see the point in it... if you're not attracted to your partner or want something more exciting, then at least have the common decency to break it off and let them find someone better.
| Mister_s wrote: | | My soon to be wife is much more beautiful than all of those girls. It's called love, call it hormonal imbalace or some kind of divine intervention. If you feel the need to fuck some other girl while you're in a relationship, you should end that relationship. |
Well said.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:19 Post subject: |
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According to evolution, we guys want to spread our genes as much as possible. This is the reason behind adultery, although lotsa guys don't realise that.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:19 Post subject: |
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these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha.
And I am not a professional photographer, just downloaded these minutes ago to proof a point, the reactions kinda speak volumes, defending the undefendable, boys will be boys, if you can still say no, congratz.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:23 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | | According to evolution, we guys want to spread our genes as much as possible. This is the reason behind adultery, although lotsa guys don't realise that. |
So what is the reason for females doing so?
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:24 Post subject: |
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha.
And I am not a professional photographer, just downloaded these minutes ago to proof a point, the reactions kinda speak volumes, defending the undefendable, boys will be boys, if you can still say no, congratz. |
| iconized wrote: | | According to evolution, we guys want to spread our genes as much as possible. This is the reason behind adultery, although lotsa guys don't realise that. |
You're talking about a primal instinct, humans have evolved to a point to where they can control such instincts. If we were still under such control, men would be raping left and right trying to produce offspring.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:25 Post subject: |
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha.
And I am not a professional photographer, just downloaded these minutes ago to proof a point, the reactions kinda speak volumes, defending the undefendable, boys will be boys, if you can still say no, congratz. |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:26 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | Pfiemelcheese wrote: | these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha.
And I am not a professional photographer, just downloaded these minutes ago to proof a point, the reactions kinda speak volumes, defending the undefendable, boys will be boys, if you can still say no, congratz. |
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I don't think there's enough facepalms in the world to convey how moronic the post was 
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TSR69
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:31 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | iconized wrote: | | According to evolution, we guys want to spread our genes as much as possible. This is the reason behind adultery, although lotsa guys don't realise that. |
So what is the reason for females doing so? |
I should have mentioned indeed that females can be adulterous as well. They are bored with the relation they are in and are looking for something better. This new guy might have better genes. Or they think this is a nice guy to have a relationship with but he will not be the father of my children. It happens often that children in a family are not the offspring of their supposed to be biological father.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:33 Post subject: |
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Please stop writing bullshit or give some sources.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:38 Post subject: |
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha.
And I am not a professional photographer, just downloaded these minutes ago to proof a point, the reactions kinda speak volumes, defending the undefendable, boys will be boys, if you can still say no, congratz. |
My gf doesn't control me. I can do whatever I want. She too. We are in relationship with love and trust so we just choose not to cheat and don't feel the need. Why would I try to be saying nice things and not say that I want to fuck other girls if I would like too? I would just leave her then, what would be the point of a relationship?
We are both mature people. There is no point in hiding my posts in sexy sections or here 
We watch porn together sometimes. I even downloaded her some porn when she didnt had internet connection and we couldnt see each other for some time, so she could masturbate  we don't see masturbation as cheating at all. Its just the form of survival when we can't see each other  she even writes me a dirty sms about that sometimes
And again. That is after over 4years. So I really can't see why people would cheat each other. That territory belongs to bad couples that need to not be together anymore
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TSR69
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:44 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Please stop writing bullshit or give some sources. |
My guess is that you have easier access to scientific sources than me, but in what regard you like to see sources?
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 16:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 17:03 Post subject: |
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| iconized wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | iconized wrote: | | According to evolution, we guys want to spread our genes as much as possible. This is the reason behind adultery, although lotsa guys don't realise that. |
So what is the reason for females doing so? |
I should have mentioned indeed that females can be adulterous as well. They are bored with the relation they are in and are looking for something better. This new guy might have better genes. Or they think this is a nice guy to have a relationship with but he will not be the father of my children. It happens often that children in a family are not the offspring of their supposed to be biological father. |
And do you think all males and females act according to the scientific theories you mentioned?
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 20:50 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Pfiemelcheese wrote: | these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha.
And I am not a professional photographer, just downloaded these minutes ago to proof a point, the reactions kinda speak volumes, defending the undefendable, boys will be boys, if you can still say no, congratz. |
My gf doesn't control me. I can do whatever I want. She too. We are in relationship with love and trust so we just choose not to cheat and don't feel the need. Why would I try to be saying nice things and not say that I want to fuck other girls if I would like too? I would just leave her then, what would be the point of a relationship?
We are both mature people. There is no point in hiding my posts in sexy sections or here
We watch porn together sometimes. I even downloaded her some porn when she didnt had internet connection and we couldnt see each other for some time, so she could masturbate we don't see masturbation as cheating at all. Its just the form of survival when we can't see each other she even writes me a dirty sms about that sometimes
And again. That is after over 4years. So I really can't see why people would cheat each other. That territory belongs to bad couples that need to not be together anymore |
she seems perffect your gilrfriend  why don't you marry her? i've done that with my gf and now she's my wife i love that girl! even sometimes i want to kill her, as she does want kill me. 
but hey, then again, i am married so, normal rules about engagement and relations in a fiance or relationship status don't apply to a married man. if i cheat on her, that would be a serious crime, not worth the risk. that's one part. the other part, is as you guys say: don't do the things that you don't want for yourself. i would die in pain if she cheats on me. and she would die in pain if i cheat on her. so, it's not even a discussion you may actually have with yourself, regarding the temptations of the world. you just simply decide not to cheat and that's it. as human beeings, we can control our behaviour and our emotions too.
if a guy has the need to cheat (because of many motives, for example, your girl is temporary afar from you), simply jerk off watching some porn and that feeling is gone.
in a relationship you have to be trusty and loyal. that's the main -i think- base for a long term relationship; that should be the base for a marriage. (yeah, im old schooldish, that believes in marriage till i root).
but then, there are some girls that makes literally the guys life impossible, in nearly every aspect, and those guys just can't or won't go away because of the children, making their life a big hell. as i say, that kind of lady's are "unsmokable", so; is there no rest of life for those guys? should they try to smoke every day a girl that is unsmokable? i honestly think that in some cases, people has the right to have "slips" in their lives, if it involves cheating, well... that's something that does not come from nothing...
but on topic again, if you're in a relationship that is good, has love, fun, excitment etc., then is cheating very wrong, as you pollute not only the realtionship, but the persons itself and their souls; making a undesirable change on his vital experience for the rest of his/her life.... and that is just wrong.
(Note to self, this has nothing to do by going to strip clubs )
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 21:09 Post subject: |
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It's pretty obvious that natural selection (and evolution in general) has an effect in our behavior. Are we determined by it? Probably not. Affected? Most certainly.
For instance, men and women do seek better genes (not necessarily the prettiest tallest people, but better matching genes) and that guides our attraction (culture has a bigger influence, obviously, but that too is an indirect byproduct of evolution).
| Mister_s wrote: | | You're talking about a primal instinct, humans have evolved to a point to where they can control such instincts. If we were still under such control, men would be raping left and right trying to produce offspring. |
So you're saying you have a rape instinct that needs constant control? 
In evolutionary terms, most men don't have a rape instinct, rape is only one strategy to succeed at the reproductive game (and one of the least successful, by the way). Usually, rapists are losers who can't get sex in any other way (I'm NOT saying every forever alone guy is a potential rapist).
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 22:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jul 2012 23:31 Post subject: |
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He was talking about a purely evolutionary case, in which rationality should not play a role. "Rape" is a human word. Does an animal rape? If we were not past the point of primal instincts, we would "rape" more freely yes.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 01:13 Post subject: |
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | So lemme get this straight, all the morons here stating that they would not succumb to the charms of any of below women when the opportunity presents itself,
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must surely be bullshitting, its very easy to go all high and mighty in your morals, but lets face the fact, if any of the above wants your cock, she will have your cock and you will love it. |
So lemme get this straight, you're under the assumption that everyone else is as weak minded towards "hot women" as you are?
Yes, they're hot. Yes, I'd want to fuck them. No, I would not do it if I was in a relationship. Why? Because first of all I wouldn't want to betray the girl I'm with, secondly, I don't want to betray myself and my own sense of morality, thirdly, I have little interest in pure sex. Sex in a relationship is one thing, that's great. But I have zero interest in fucking some random skank. And yeah, you may believe I'm bullshitting you and that's your prerogative but you should at the very least understand that not everyone functions the same way you do.
No, I'm not bullshitting. If I'm in a relationship, then I'm not going to fuck anyone else.
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| Pfiemelcheese wrote: | | these opportunities do not present itself to me, but the way I see it, it looks like all your girlfriends are reading this forum or you'r just typing that bullshit of being faithful to show your girl in hopes of getting sex, or you'r just saying that to make yourself believe the garbage that comes from your mouth. Just keep saying something often enough and it almost sounds like the truth, hahaha. |
I'm actually single but I have had relationships, I know how I function when I'm in a relationship. No, no girl I know reads this forum. And no, I'm not writing it just to make myself believe what I'm saying, I'm writing it because I know that's how I am.
You seem to be under some narrow minded view that all guys are weak minded when faced with a hot girl... I know this might be hard for you to understand, but we aren't all alike. We don't all think the same way. I don't view my position as "the right way", I view as what makes me happy and what doesn't make me happy. Would I enjoy fucking a hot girl while in a relationship? I would certainly enjoy the actual fucking yes, but would I enjoy the experience? No. Because I would be betraying myself and my girlfriend, and that's not something I ever would want to do, it would make me a hypocrite.
Believe what you want but you're wrong. My father betrayed my mother by leaving her when I was born, that's why I have a very strong view on betrayal, I despise my father for that and as such, I view betrayals in a relationship as something despicable and something I must never ever do.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 01:20 Post subject: |
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Successful troll since 2006 is successful 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 01:24 Post subject: |
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| Invasor wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | | He was talking about a purely evolutionary case, in which rationality should not play a role. "Rape" is a human word. Does an animal rape? If we were not past the point of primal instincts, we would "rape" more freely yes. |
What do you mean by "purely evolutionary case"? Evolution defined life as we know it, and it still affects us in many ways. Our sexuality is certainly affected by evolutionary traits (and so is our rationality). The two main forces behind our actions (as species) are survival and reproduction, but obviously individuals may differ (suicide and the choice of not having kids, among other things, may have evolutionary meanings too).
Rape is a human word (like all words ), but other animals do things that may be seen as/may resemble rape (forced copulation). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_sexual_behaviour#Coercive_sex |
Evolution works on a macro level, you can't relate it to the individual. Our choices are not defined by evolution, it is not an intelligent entity defining our actions. You are mixing evolution with instinct. We are past the point of succumbing to our primal instincts (atleast I hope most humans are), so "spreading the seed" cannot be a reason for cheating. If you truly do believe that is the reason, explain why people use condoms and birth control pils.
As for your rape in the animal kingdom example, the animal does not "rape". We humans just perceive it as rape. Does a female animal think "don't rape me!" and does it become traumatized after the "rape"?
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 03:48 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Evolution works on a macro level, you can't relate it to the individual. Our choices are not defined by evolution, it is not an intelligent entity defining our actions. You are mixing evolution with instinct. We are past the point of succumbing to our primal instincts (atleast I hope most humans are), so "spreading the seed" cannot be a reason for cheating. If you truly do believe that is the reason, explain why people use condoms and birth control pils |
How would it work on a macro level if it doesn't affect individuals? And evolution is not an intelligent entity at all, if anything it's a blind watchmaker 
Instinct is only one of the ways evolution affects humans. Like I said, it doesn't define our behaviour, but it's part of who we are. Birth control is actually a good example of that: our genes "want" us to have sex and it's often hard to deny that urge, but we don't want countless kids. Other animals also have non-reproductive sex, so it really isn't uncommon under evolutionary terms. The thing with hormonal birth control (the pill) is that it seems to be affecting straight women's taste in men. You could say it's messing with evolution, but then you'd have to admit the obvious, that evolution affects us. (see this)
| Quote: | | As for your rape in the animal kingdom example, the animal does not "rape". We humans just perceive it as rape. Does a female animal think "don't rape me!" and does it become traumatized after the "rape"? |
That's not the definition of rape. Someone who is unconscious may be a victim of rape, just because there's no "don't rape me!" or no psychological trauma it doesn't mean it's not rape. By the way, we belong to the animal (animalia) kingdom too!
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Please stop writing bullshit or give some sources. |
It's fairly well known. Male reproductive strategy: mate with as many females as possible. Female reproductive strategy: find a mate with the most resources possible, ensuring safe and healthy offspring. Men tend to go for younger, attractive, healthy mates while women tend to prefer older, wealthier mates. Does this not make sense? Men generate billions of sperm a day while a woman gets what, 300-400 eggs in her life. How often is wealth on the top of the llist of attributes that men look for in a woman? How about on a woman's?
This doesn't excuse dirtbag behavior like the OP's... but it can help explain it.
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jul 2012 09:47 Post subject: |
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Lets just finish this thread with the conclusion that there are some that would fuck every girl, some that would never and some inbetween. Everyone has their own valid arguments. The only problem with discussions on the internet is, that people are not able to accept other points of view, which results in flaming and insults.
My initial question has been solved, so just lock this thread please.
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