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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 10:43 Post subject: |
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it runs at 1920x1200 for me. seems very smooth for the first few minutes. ill play more later and monitor gpu and cpu usage closer...
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 10:44 Post subject: |
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Is there a fxaa injector made for this?
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 10:50 Post subject: |
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Anybody playing the flt release in a higher than default res (higher than 1920x1200)? and if so how did you accomplish it ?
Per Ardua Ad Astra
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 10:51 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | This is a typical symptom of CPU bottlenecking and does not in any way prove that it's a shit port 
I am not saying this game is not, but in general, just because a game uses a lot of CPU, does not mean it's "badly optimised" 
Open world games such as this do actually need plenty of CPU power. Whether or not it it's using it efficiently though, is something I can't tell you. |
I'll have to kind of disagree there.
Wouldn't it be much more logical to split the game's resource handling between the CPU and GPU, especially for a PC version?
I'm not trying to deny that mt CPU is ancient technology by now, cause it really REALLY is 
But when Just Cause 2 did it so well (the rock bottom I got on that game is 40fps I think, in scenes with as much actors as this has and with tons of stuff blowing up) while looking and running so much better then I can't really think of anything other than this game being yet another lazy actishit port.
EDIT: Oh and it really is worse than it first seemed, not even knocking the res down helps so 640x480 == 1440x900.
Which is the very first time I see this happening with any game, so I'm starting to wonder if there might be anything else to this...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:01 Post subject: |
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I can run Just Cause 2, Saints Row The Third, Red Faction Guerrila (and probably others) at max settings. They all look better than this and they run amazingly good, but apparently my PC is absolute shit because it can't run a crappy port like this. As far as I know not only people with C2D or C2Q CPUs have performance problems with this. It's completely random. Also, I gain 3 fps by going from the highest settings to the lowest when standing in a not demanding at all area by not doing anything. This is not right at all. It's not the PC's problem, but the game's because it's a shitty port. Good thing that I don't care about the game that much.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:10 Post subject: |
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Then what about Just Cause 2, sniffty?
I'd completely agree with you but after seeing a very similar game running so much better on the same system I really can't think anything other than this being a shit port OR something being very wrong with it.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:19 Post subject: |
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Even if this is not related to the game's optimization, it's still a shit port. The controls are clunky, the camera is extremely stupid and they haven't done anything to take advantage of the PCs. Everything just screams of "lunch break port".
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:26 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | Then what about Just Cause 2, sniffty?
I'd completely agree with you but after seeing a very similar game running so much better on the same system I really can't think anything other than this being a shit port OR something being very wrong with it. |
JC2 was actually bottlenecked for me, but it was running quite well non the less (this was on a Q9505 I think). But I still couldn't make it run much better than it did by lowering any settings back then, which was my original point. At some point your CPU will be holding your GPU back, and there is not much you can do. I had the same thing with BC2 and my E6750 and BF3 and even Witcher 2 on my Q9505.
I can't say much about P2 in comparison, since I have no idea just how badly it's running. But yes, JC2 looked much more impressive graphics wise and based on your descriptions it also ran better. So based on that, one could attempt to say that this game is badly optimised. As far as I remember you had a Quad Core though, and there are people here who say it's running fine for them, so perhaps there is more to it, as you said?
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:27 Post subject: |
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it only uses 21% max of my 3930k, but load is distributed across half of the threads. my max gpu (680top) usage during a 15 minute run of making carnage (throwing cars at helicopters etc) was 62% (with core sitting ~800mhz). fps is solid but i havnt installed a way to monitor that yet on this pc. temp max 48c and my fans didnt spin up (they sit at 20%).
i dont like the default controls so far. i havnt bothered to try remapping them though. tempted to try the xbox controller for this one because it doesnt require aiming and it feels a bit off on mouse/kb.
ps - yuri is my avatar less creepy now?
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:36 Post subject: |
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It's a lazy port, but it's far from a shit port. Just because it does not run fluid at your end does not make it a shit port. A shit port would crash and burn in most cases. Does it mean it's an awesome port since it runs perfectly fine at my end?
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:36 Post subject: |
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Dunno why everyone raving about this game.
I thought it was pure generated garbage tbh.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:37 Post subject: |
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Dunno why everyone raving about this game.
I thought it was pure generated garbage tbh.
Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:38 Post subject: |
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| MinderMast wrote: | JC2 was actually bottlenecked for me, but it was running quite well non the less (this was on a Q9505 I think). But I still couldn't make it run much better than it did by lowering any settings back then, which was my original point. At some point your CPU will be holding your GPU back, and there is not much you can do. I had the same thing with BC2 and my E6750 and BF3 and even Witcher 2 on my Q9505.
I can't say much about P2 in comparison, since I have no idea just how badly it's running. But yes, JC2 looked much more impressive graphics wise and based on your descriptions it also ran better. So based on that, one could attempt to say that this game is badly optimised. As far as I remember you had a Quad Core though, and there are people here who say it's running fine for them, so perhaps there is more to it, as you said? |
it's just frustrating having that happening (CPU bottleneck) on a game whose developers/publishers outright shit on the PC version
The developer should had learned their lesson with the first game and the less we talk about the retarded delay (I can still remember some tardos saying that the delay would benefit the PC version, optimization wise  ) the better.
And yeah, I have a Q8300@3.33GHz but I'm really starting to wonder if maybe something else might be wrong. And since I just know that I'll quite like this game maybe I'll bother looking for a couple of solutions instead of just shift+del it.
But if it comes to that then maybe I'll install Just Cause 2 again, never quite got around to finishing it anyway 
| Mister_s wrote: | | It's a lazy port, but it's far from a shit port. Just because it does not run fluid at your end does not make it a shit port. A shit port would crash and burn in most cases. Does it mean it's an awesome port since it runs perfectly fine at my end? |
Shit port, lazy port, crippled port, etc
You want to discuss semantics now? 
As for the last part, what are your system specs?
And can you post a video options screen including the resolution?
plus I've already said that I'm starting to wonder if there might not be something else that's making this run so badly for me.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:42 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:42 Post subject: |
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For those with no voice: make sure you have audio_german.rcf in your install folder even if you use English. I though I could delete it because I use English but after that all voices disappeared and I had to reinstall the game to get it back.
Also the game runs flawlessly for me with 60fps, i7 920 @ 3Ghz and GTX 560 Ti.
I run the game at 1280x1024 w/o AA and everything else maxed out.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:43 Post subject: |
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Yeah aeona, wtf?
Unless you meant Just Cause 2?
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 11:54 Post subject: |
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Anyone managed to run this in 2560 x 1440???
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 12:03 Post subject: |
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| Overlord123 wrote: | For those with no voice: make sure you have audio_german.rcf in your install folder even if you use English. I though I could delete it because I use English but after that all voices disappeared and I had to reinstall the game to get it back.
Also the game runs flawlessly for me with 60fps, i7 920 @ 3Ghz and GTX 560 Ti.
I run the game at 1280x1024 w/o AA and everything else maxed out. |
Which release?
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 12:27 Post subject: |
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17" monitor
BTW is there DLC out for the free version?
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 12:37 Post subject: |
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I have zero problems whit this game. Mouse works ok.
My hardware old CPU Q6700 but new GPU AMD 6850.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 12:39 Post subject: |
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<- DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 
Just realized that I still was running the catalyst 12.4, updated to the 12.7 betas and now it runs slightly better, >= 40fps which puts it in the realm of playable for me.
Too bad that now I "broke" Gulf of Oman on BF3 but since I'm barely playing... 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 12:45 Post subject: |
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| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | DarkRohirrim wrote: | | This is just a shit port. It has nothing to do with settings or hardware. |
no, your pc is shit. if it was shit port (from optimization perspective) it would run bad for people with decent rigs, but it's not the case. |
Oh sorry, you were serious? Ok then... faith in humanity: -214354365768975985987642345245145314255265679870957643 |
yes i'm serious, your C2D cpu is old as shit. stop living in denial and upgrade already.
| DarkRohirrim wrote: | | Also, I gain 3 fps by going from the highest settings to the lowest when standing in a not demanding at all area by not doing anything. |
you think you are the only one here who has/had C2D cpu? I also had one, and i also had same experience, many games would run at 20-25fps no matter gfx setting. that's just means pc is outdated and needs upgrading badly...
but whatever, keep being mad at me for speaking the truth, it won't make your cpu faster...
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 12:51 Post subject: |
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The port is shit, anyone arguing otherwise is deluded. Just because it runs fine for YOU does not make the port "perfectly fine, upgrade n00b!" so GTFO with that antagonistic bullshit. Yes, it runs fine for some of us with high-end rigs ... it also ran like shit for OTHER people with even MORE powerful rigs. For a LOT of people there are issues with the mouse, issues with the framerate, issues with voices coming and going --- all issues that were present in the FIRST Prototype. The port is shit. The game is great
I'm just thankful that it's working fine for me. I get 50-60 at all times, no mouse issues, no sound issues, no resolution issues. I'm lucky for once.
| Yuri wrote: | | Is there a fxaa injector made for this? |
Yup, ixi's glorious inject_FXAA works fine... though it may or may not negatively impact performance, since this is already a strenuous game.
| StrEagle wrote: | 17" monitor
BTW is there DLC out for the free version? |
Yup! Just copy any Skidrow.ini/steamclient.dll/steam_api.dll from any Skidrow-cracked Steam game. Put them besides Prototype2.exe and edit Skidrow.ini and set "115320" as the AppID. Then play! You'll now have access to RADnet DLC addons and challenges.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jul 2012 13:07 Post subject: |
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runs fine on my 2500k@4Ghz & 560Ti at 1080p max'd, pretty fun game, dunno what my drivers are, haven't updated them since shortly before D3 launched.
I liked the first one as well but the targetting system was complete shit, at least this time around it doesn't fill up the whole screen anymore, though i'm using my ps3 controller, can't really see myself playing this type of game with mouse & keyboard tbh.
Don't see what TB was bitching about so much on his review, the game seems to run fine on a somewhat recent system.
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