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| Posted: Mon, 21st May 2012 20:37 Post subject: |
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Question about dlcs, can i start playing DD and when the dlc will released play it or
wait for the dlc to be released, how do you guys play?
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fisk
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| Posted: Mon, 21st May 2012 22:17 Post subject: |
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| Adebisi wrote: | Question about dlcs, can i start playing DD and when the dlc will released play it or
wait for the dlc to be released, how do you guys play?
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You can travel all over the world so the DLC:s will add more locations and items that are available in the world you are, so pretty much go play and don't worry.
Apparently there's co-op, I haven't tried it tho. Level 20 now and am having more and more fun... exploration is for the epic win in this game, night time exploration is for those surprise OHSHIT-moments. The map is pretty much completely different at night in terms of encounters, traps, loot, and quests.
Yes, yes I'm back.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 00:45 Post subject: |
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Can anyone explain why this game is getting slammed by reviewers who gave Skyrim a perfect rating? While they claim that this game is lifeless, I found the same to be even more true for Skyrim. The combat in the game is way better. Go figure.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 01:18 Post subject: |
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fisk
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 07:05 Post subject: |
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| gruk wrote: | | Can anyone explain why this game is getting slammed by reviewers who gave Skyrim a perfect rating? While they claim that this game is lifeless, I found the same to be even more true for Skyrim. The combat in the game is way better. Go figure. |
Skyrim was hyped more, reviewers draw success from hype (more people read their reviews if games are hyped). Hype leads to a false sense of accomplishment in all parties involved, a couple of weeks after the hype is over people start realizing how wrong they were but then the reviews are already done.
I don't think anyone who reviewed Skyrim again today would think it was "the best game ever" as was uttered several times (even by me) around release.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 12:17 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | gruk wrote: | | Can anyone explain why this game is getting slammed by reviewers who gave Skyrim a perfect rating? While they claim that this game is lifeless, I found the same to be even more true for Skyrim. The combat in the game is way better. Go figure. |
Skyrim was hyped more, reviewers draw success from hype (more people read their reviews if games are hyped). Hype leads to a false sense of accomplishment in all parties involved, a couple of weeks after the hype is over people start realizing how wrong they were but then the reviews are already done.
I don't think anyone who reviewed Skyrim again today would think it was "the best game ever" as was uttered several times (even by me) around release. |
Same was with Black & White a game hyped to other dimensions but in the end it was a boring as pet simulator mix with populus |
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 14:06 Post subject: |
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| gruk wrote: | | Can anyone explain why this game is getting slammed by reviewers who gave Skyrim a perfect rating? While they claim that this game is lifeless, I found the same to be even more true for Skyrim. The combat in the game is way better. Go figure. |
I agree with them this time..
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-dragons-dogma/730329
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 15:17 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Adebisi wrote: | Question about dlcs, can i start playing DD and when the dlc will released play it or
wait for the dlc to be released, how do you guys play?
Thanks |
You can travel all over the world so the DLC:s will add more locations and items that are available in the world you are, so pretty much go play and don't worry.
Apparently there's co-op, I haven't tried it tho. Level 20 now and am having more and more fun... exploration is for the epic win in this game, night time exploration is for those surprise OHSHIT-moments. The map is pretty much completely different at night in terms of encounters, traps, loot, and quests. |
There is no direct multiplayer in Dragon's Dogma. Its asynchronus multiplayer which apparently means you can allow another player to use an NPC you create to gain loot, gold and XP.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/23/dragons-dogmas-itsuno-asynchronicity-and-the-pawn/
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 18:06 Post subject: |
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Can you ride a horse or is everything on foot with teleporting points or fast travel?
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 20:00 Post subject: |
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Is the save system as bad as they say it is?
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fisk
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 22:28 Post subject: |
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| gruk wrote: | | Is the save system as bad as they say it is? |
It autosaves in certain areas, it has checkpoints and on top of that you can save anytime you like outside of encounters.
So, if you want to complain about that you are about as irrational as the reviewers allover. One mag said that there is no ongoing story about the dragon, yes there is BUT YOU CAN SKIP IT, storyline quests are pretty obvious because you are doing them for the lords of the duke and then for the duke, and pretty much all of them include lore.
Also, there's tons of classes (I'm at level 25 now and I can choose from 10+ classes all with distinct abilities, weapon types, and... in my case magic). There are such a retarded amount of quests it's not even funny, I've pretty much skipped 8 out of 10 quests... some because I didn't like to do them, and a few even related to the main quest line. This is probably what some reviewers have been doing "Oh, no lore... stupid game", stupid cuntfaced reviewer more like.
I've had quests come from random npc encounters in the wilderness, to traveling a road and :ohfucksuddenlyhugeassbird+goblins attacks one of the dukes delivery wagons: and if you kill it you raise in standing with the Duke (and either get an audience or a promotion). Other quests are like... "We need this fort taken", and the quest can be "sneak into the fort, kill the sentries, use the ballista on the cyclops, then find the lever to open the gate for the reinforcements and watch the duke's men deal with the hordes of goblins while firing ballistas on them OR just hop down, join the battle and hope for the best:
I'm quite pissed at the sites that have reviewed this game, I'm what? 30+ hours into it and I'm still in the starting section of the map. Gran Soren is the capital city, but I've barely deviated from it since I got here (except for some subquests where I had to follow a bloke around).
The reviewers also have been complaining about "tedious quests", well... the quest I'm doing now is about a trial, the duke's right hand has asked me to gather evidence for an upcoming trial involving one of the nobles whom I've had dealings with previously (hell, he introduced me to the forger (who can make fakes out of any in-game item, which you can pass on for real), so now I'm interviewing people and locating evidence.
Gamespot (I think it was) said that the quest marker system is hugely bugged, because the quest marker can be at a location but not the NPC involved. These guys are fucking daft in their heads because no quest has failed for me ever. Yes it can be a bit confusing sometimes when a location in Gran Soren is at geographical spot X, but then there's a flight of stairs you have to travel (axis Z) up into a tower where quest person is, in one part of the game you have to chase this kid (yeah, I'm so pissed at reviewers audacity to question the quest diversity) pick him up and cajole him into selling some land (yes, to the aforementioned nobleman).
Some of the magics that open up in some classes are completely screenbogglingly mad, and some of the earlier ones (around level 15-20) are pretty awesome, like the one that freezes a large part of the screen into ice, or a lightning whip spell (yes, they conjure a whip they use to whiplash shit with), or the spell that simply sends hordes of goblins flying far, far away (it's especially funny when that is to the side of a cliff).
I can ramble on and on about this game, but I'm pretty much convinced that the majority of gamers will just scratch the surface of it and go "meh". This is not your average game developed by random failures, it has people involved with it from Dark Souls, Ico, and some other famous games that I cannot remember the name of, and its pretty fucking sweet.
Seriously I have yet to read one single mag-review that didn't contain at least half a page of factual errors in it. The complaints that have been valid are as follows:
* fps-lag (in some scenes the graphics are just too much for the 360 (which is why I hope it sells well enough to get a decent port, which isn't likely given how much "meh" its taking)
* graphic bugs (like a cyclops club floating through the ground or disappearing)
* hair or body parts going through armor/items
That's it... in 30+ hours of gaming, that's the only bugs I've found. Try playing any of these eastern-european games that reviewers love to praise (for good reason in some cases) and they have HEAPS more (any Piranha Bytes title for one). And Skyrim which is the game that reviewers have been hyped, paid and praised about had more bugs in the main quest (which according to Bethesda was spot free), can anyone remember the one in Riften and trying to find the old babbling mad for example?
Yes, IMAD, but only because CAPCOM is taking unwarranted flames from stores and reviewers because this is a game for old-school gamers, but really it would be awesome for newschool gamers too because the combat system in it's chaos is pretty fucking wonderful, with the special skills to perform combo-kills (like one warrior preps his shield for you to jump on, one mage freezes the monster, and you run up to the shield and insta-crack-kills the monster), and that's just one combination OUT OF MANY.
I'm going to buy two copies of this game this friday, one for myself and one for one of my students who appreciates good games. Just to show the support for a gaming studio that put the effort in (that american developers have stopped doing).
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 22:59 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | gruk wrote: | | Is the save system as bad as they say it is? |
It autosaves in certain areas, it has checkpoints and on top of that you can save anytime you like outside of encounters.
So, if you want to complain about that you are about as irrational as the reviewers allover. One mag said that there is no ongoing story about the dragon, yes there is BUT YOU CAN SKIP IT, storyline quests are pretty obvious because you are doing them for the lords of the duke and then for the duke, and pretty much all of them include lore.
Also, there's tons of classes (I'm at level 25 now and I can choose from 10+ classes all with distinct abilities, weapon types, and... in my case magic). There are such a retarded amount of quests it's not even funny, I've pretty much skipped 8 out of 10 quests... some because I didn't like to do them, and a few even related to the main quest line. This is probably what some reviewers have been doing "Oh, no lore... stupid game", stupid cuntfaced reviewer more like.
I've had quests come from random npc encounters in the wilderness, to traveling a road and :ohfucksuddenlyhugeassbird+goblins attacks one of the dukes delivery wagons: and if you kill it you raise in standing with the Duke (and either get an audience or a promotion). Other quests are like... "We need this fort taken", and the quest can be "sneak into the fort, kill the sentries, use the ballista on the cyclops, then find the lever to open the gate for the reinforcements and watch the duke's men deal with the hordes of goblins while firing ballistas on them OR just hop down, join the battle and hope for the best:
I'm quite pissed at the sites that have reviewed this game, I'm what? 30+ hours into it and I'm still in the starting section of the map. Gran Soren is the capital city, but I've barely deviated from it since I got here (except for some subquests where I had to follow a bloke around).
The reviewers also have been complaining about "tedious quests", well... the quest I'm doing now is about a trial, the duke's right hand has asked me to gather evidence for an upcoming trial involving one of the nobles whom I've had dealings with previously (hell, he introduced me to the forger (who can make fakes out of any in-game item, which you can pass on for real), so now I'm interviewing people and locating evidence.
Gamespot (I think it was) said that the quest marker system is hugely bugged, because the quest marker can be at a location but not the NPC involved. These guys are fucking daft in their heads because no quest has failed for me ever. Yes it can be a bit confusing sometimes when a location in Gran Soren is at geographical spot X, but then there's a flight of stairs you have to travel (axis Z) up into a tower where quest person is, in one part of the game you have to chase this kid (yeah, I'm so pissed at reviewers audacity to question the quest diversity) pick him up and cajole him into selling some land (yes, to the aforementioned nobleman).
Some of the magics that open up in some classes are completely screenbogglingly mad, and some of the earlier ones (around level 15-20) are pretty awesome, like the one that freezes a large part of the screen into ice, or a lightning whip spell (yes, they conjure a whip they use to whiplash shit with), or the spell that simply sends hordes of goblins flying far, far away (it's especially funny when that is to the side of a cliff).
I can ramble on and on about this game, but I'm pretty much convinced that the majority of gamers will just scratch the surface of it and go "meh". This is not your average game developed by random failures, it has people involved with it from Dark Souls, Ico, and some other famous games that I cannot remember the name of, and its pretty fucking sweet.
Seriously I have yet to read one single mag-review that didn't contain at least half a page of factual errors in it. The complaints that have been valid are as follows:
* fps-lag (in some scenes the graphics are just too much for the 360 (which is why I hope it sells well enough to get a decent port, which isn't likely given how much "meh" its taking)
* graphic bugs (like a cyclops club floating through the ground or disappearing)
* hair or body parts going through armor/items
That's it... in 30+ hours of gaming, that's the only bugs I've found. Try playing any of these eastern-european games that reviewers love to praise (for good reason in some cases) and they have HEAPS more (any Piranha Bytes title for one). And Skyrim which is the game that reviewers have been hyped, paid and praised about had more bugs in the main quest (which according to Bethesda was spot free), can anyone remember the one in Riften and trying to find the old babbling mad for example?
Yes, IMAD, but only because CAPCOM is taking unwarranted flames from stores and reviewers because this is a game for old-school gamers, but really it would be awesome for newschool gamers too because the combat system in it's chaos is pretty fucking wonderful, with the special skills to perform combo-kills (like one warrior preps his shield for you to jump on, one mage freezes the monster, and you run up to the shield and insta-crack-kills the monster), and that's just one combination OUT OF MANY.
I'm going to buy two copies of this game this friday, one for myself and one for one of my students who appreciates good games. Just to show the support for a gaming studio that put the effort in (that american developers have stopped doing). |
beautiful, rgh here i come...
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd May 2012 23:23 Post subject: |
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@fisk
thanks for your awesome review. you've got me really psyched about the game. i asked about the saves only because reviewers have been bashing it so bad.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 00:56 Post subject: |
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GRRR hurry up Friday!
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 01:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 04:24 Post subject: |
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I've been just truncating all the burns prior but after hearing all the good news about this game I decided to finally flash my lite on ihas 124 b drive last night and try my first overburn. I used a verb 001 disc the 2.4x kind and so far DD works flawlessly. Game is awsome so far, played for about an hr earlier. Helped a priest find his lost scripture book and some other random bs quests in the first area. Overall I like it alot
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 05:05 Post subject: |
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Does this game have repetitive annoying music just like JRPGs?
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 07:07 Post subject: |
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| udis wrote: | | I've been just truncating all the burns prior but after hearing all the good news about this game I decided to finally flash my lite on ihas 124 b drive last night and try my first overburn. I used a verb 001 disc the 2.4x kind and so far DD works flawlessly. Game is awsome so far, played for about an hr earlier. Helped a priest find his lost scripture book and some other random bs quests in the first area. Overall I like it alot |
Yes, it is a bit "slow" in the beginning, not a lot of opponents and a couple of minor quests to accomplish (pretty much all errands). You are introduced to one of the more important characters in the game early on though, everything else is all about getting more comfortable with the combat system, inventory and so on. :Also, don't forget to experiment with herbs.: Another hint is not to sell all the items you find just to get as much gold as possible, while gold is good, some items can enhance your armor A LOT, and others can be combined into some really potent stuff.
| JoeyTheWop wrote: | | Does this game have repetitive annoying music just like JRPGs? |
Well... some of the music is a bit cheesy classical music + hard rock 80'ies (especially the title screen song makes me think of twenty other JRPGS) but in-game the music is actually very enjoyable thus far. Atmosphere sounds (running water, wind, steel colliding with flesh) are what really takes up your attention the most. But there's some autotuned singing and soft ballads occasionally.
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 07:25 Post subject: |
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Seems like we got another reviewer here
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 15:07 Post subject: |
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Any chance this will make its way to PC?
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 15:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 15:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 23rd May 2012 15:59 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Any chance this will make its way to PC? |
i can play it on 360 yet i want pc version. too many technical issues on console version and black bars... wtf.
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Anyway, I tried ordering from Datakjeden (or Amentio as it is now) and it screwed up. Went through the Visa secure checkout stuff and then threw up a sql error and I'm not sure if they've charged me and completed the order or not. Wonderful.
