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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 19:21    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
hooting dickholes joining your world for the sole purpose of fucking your shit up.

you should really check out eve online sometime Cool Face
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 19:25    Post subject:
That's the #1 reason why I DON'T play it any more Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 19:47    Post subject:
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 20:23    Post subject:
true, nothing like surprise buttsecksing an invader who was stupid enough to give himself away Laughing

i really hope they broaden the whole feature set in the sequel, like more physics stuff, traps, being able to get revenge on a black phantom who killed you etc. simply more stuff that favors thinking and tactics instead of level and gear, no matter whether you're the hunter or hunted.
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 20:42    Post subject:
How do people invade you? don't you have to invite people in for that to happen? I haven't played it online so i really have no clue.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 20:43    Post subject:
ok thanks for the advice so if I get this correctly offline a 9/10 game online a 9.2/10 game, so either way a must play Wink will start with this tonight. only thing Im a little afraid of right now is the much mentioned difficulty. I hope the gameplay is good enough to bear dying and starting over a level 50 times. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 20:53    Post subject:
I gave up as i didn't have online capabilities and i couldn't be bothered sitting in front of the computer while playing and watching some walkthrough video. It's cool with the blood pools or whatever people put down to give you a heads up what to expect in certain rooms. Just walking in with your head high might get you insta killed.
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 21:01    Post subject:
Meh... I haven't had to use a guide even once, it's just not necessary. There's nothing massively in-depth about the game, it's a hack'n'slash through and through, it's just punishingly difficult Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 28th May 2011 21:19    Post subject:
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 00:15    Post subject:
What can you gain by invading and killing a player?
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 00:49    Post subject:
schadenfreude, epeen enlargement, world turns a bit mroe to black and you get your body back iirc
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Jun 2011 16:06    Post subject:
kenny64 wrote:
What can you gain by invading and killing a player?


Being an asshole and your body Very Happy . It remembered me the good old days of Diablo 2 PKing

I raped so many people in Demon Souls that i almost started to feel bad at some point. The scraping spear + acid cloud combo REALLY pisses people off Laughing

Not to mention that i some point i deleveled and used a a Dragon Bone Smasher + 5 , Dark Silver Shield + 5 and curse weapon at level 22. I was 1 shot killing the host + 2 blue phantoms in 1 sweep quite frequently.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 21:39    Post subject:
I'm planning to begin this game (hopefully), once I'm done with Skyrim. I have attempted it once before, but left it after a few tries. I have a concern, which I hope you guys can clarify, in terms of gameplay:

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If you die, you drop all of your unspent souls. Your souls will be dropped in a pool of your blood. You can retrieve this pool of blood at any time to regain your lost souls. However, if at any point in time before picking up your lost souls you die, you will lose those souls permanently. Essentially, you can only have one blood stain at a time, and if you die and create a new blood stain, it overwrites whatever other blood stain you may have had lying around.Between your first death and retrieving your souls, you can return to the Nexus, go to any other world, etc. and then come back to get your souls, and they'll still be there, provided that you haven't died since previously dying.


The above explanation is taken from one of the sticky threads at Gamefaq boards. I'm still confused as to what this means and what impact does this have on the game. I will die quite often and let's say I get killed before I reach to grab my first blood stain, does that mean I loose everything I gathered?
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 22:11    Post subject:
Done with skyrim Shocked I Am Disappoint

jk <3
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 22:20    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
I'm planning to begin this game (hopefully), once I'm done with Skyrim. I have attempted it once before, but left it after a few tries. I have a concern, which I hope you guys can clarify, in terms of gameplay:

Quote:
If you die, you drop all of your unspent souls. Your souls will be dropped in a pool of your blood. You can retrieve this pool of blood at any time to regain your lost souls. However, if at any point in time before picking up your lost souls you die, you will lose those souls permanently. Essentially, you can only have one blood stain at a time, and if you die and create a new blood stain, it overwrites whatever other blood stain you may have had lying around.Between your first death and retrieving your souls, you can return to the Nexus, go to any other world, etc. and then come back to get your souls, and they'll still be there, provided that you haven't died since previously dying.


The above explanation is taken from one of the sticky threads at Gamefaq boards. I'm still confused as to what this means and what impact does this have on the game. I will die quite often and let's say I get killed before I reach to grab my first blood stain, does that mean I loose everything I gathered?

You only lose souls, so if you run around with 500 souls and get killed, you start with 0 souls until you pick up your blood stain. If you die before picking up your bloodstain the oldest blood stain is gone and replaced with your new one, with the amount of souls you carried at that time.
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Surray




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 22:44    Post subject:
Just got a mail from atlus saying that demons souls servers will be shut down on may 31st.
wtf?
isn't that way way too early? many people are still only now getting demons souls after starting with dark souls and many people still play it all the time.

it's horrible to think that the servers will be gone...
I have the korean version so I have no clue when those servers will be shut down (I hope not for another 10 years.. or... like.. ever) and I'm not affected by this specifically, but it makes me sad Sad


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Apr 2012 22:49    Post subject:
Shinin wrote:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
I'm planning to begin this game (hopefully), once I'm done with Skyrim. I have attempted it once before, but left it after a few tries. I have a concern, which I hope you guys can clarify, in terms of gameplay:

*quote*

The above explanation is taken from one of the sticky threads at Gamefaq boards. I'm still confused as to what this means and what impact does this have on the game. I will die quite often and let's say I get killed before I reach to grab my first blood stain, does that mean I loose everything I gathered?

You only lose souls, so if you run around with 500 souls and get killed, you start with 0 souls until you pick up your blood stain. If you die before picking up your bloodstain the oldest blood stain is gone and replaced with your new one, with the amount of souls you carried at that time.


yeah it's basically the currency... you have to spend it before you die twice in a row without picking your bloodstain up or it's gone. what you spent it on will stay, but you have to save up souls to get more expensive stuff, which gives you more time where you run around with your souls in danger of losing them. so usually before going to a new place you want to spend all your souls because you're probably gonna die a lot :-)

and really many people feel really bad when they lose souls and rage, but you just have to realize that they're not that important and you'll be fine.
in demons souls and dark souls, what will help you progress the most is your own skill and experience, not the sword you upgraded slightly to do 5% more damage, or the 15 extra hp to your 300.


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vurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 00:07    Post subject:
What is this: Titanite Chunk "Reinforces standard weapons to +14"
what exactly does it mean? Should i save it or use it?

Also, anyone know of a page that describes the symbols for the armors and weapons (in the inventory).. i have no idea what they mean, or how damaged my stuff is.

Edit: oops, was meant to be put in "Dark Souls" thread.
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cobALT




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 01:08    Post subject:
Well, not sure how well I understood the later part with the ascending/enhancing myself, but I'll try my best explaining that.

Titanite is material, material that is used to reinforce(upgrade) weapons/armours/shields. There are different type of titanite, used for different tiers of weapons/armours/shields. As well as different measurements: shard/chunk/slab, the rquired measurements depend on the weapons level. It's usually like this:

Shard - from lvl 1 to 5;
Chunck - from level 5 to 14;
Slab - for lvl 15.

Titanite chunk it means that you can use that material to upgrade weapons from lvl 6 to level 14.

Basically each weapon requires different materials to reinforce/upgrade. Normal weapons require titanite shards up until level 5.
A reinforced weapon/armour/shield has a + next to the name, and the number after that + represents it's level; ex. a level 5 spear = Spear +5.

When you reach +5 with a weapons or a shield you have 2 choices:

a) go forward and upgrade that to +10 ;

b)ascend it, witch is basically applying and enhancement;

Some enhancements like lightning or boss weapons (unique weapons made using the soul of a boss), for ex, require a +10 weapon.

+5 weapons you can be ascended/enhanced to/with other magical properties that will cut the weapons physical damage but add magical/divine/fire/etc type of damage,

Hope that makes any sense. It's a bit all over the place. Laughing


In regards to the symbols in the inventory. You can press X or square (depending on witch console you're playing) to see more details of that item. It's useful especially for weapons/armours/shields.
Not sure witch symbols you mean though.



P.S. If you have more questions, fell free to quote this to the proper thread. Wink


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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 05:03    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Done with skyrim

jk <3


Don't look so surprised. Wink

My pace of playing RPG's is extremely slow. I was generally not into RPG's and only recently trying to learn it's gameplay mechanics, and make sense of it. I have been playing Skyrim for close to 4 months now. Everyday, I could possibly invest around 1-2 hours into it, before heading out to work. So I have clocked around 61 hours now. I only have the Dark Brotherhood and the main questline remaining. So yeah, the progress is really slow. Razz

Shinin wrote:
You only lose souls, so if you run around with 500 souls and get killed, you start with 0 souls until you pick up your blood stain. If you die before picking up your bloodstain the oldest blood stain is gone and replaced with your new one, with the amount of souls you carried at that time.


Surray wrote:
yeah it's basically the currency... you have to spend it before you die twice in a row without picking your bloodstain up or it's gone. what you spent it on will stay, but you have to save up souls to get more expensive stuff, which gives you more time where you run around with your souls in danger of losing them. so usually before going to a new place you want to spend all your souls because you're probably gonna die a lot Smile

and really many people feel really bad when they lose souls and rage, but you just have to realize that they're not that important and you'll be fine.
in demons souls and dark souls, what will help you progress the most is your own skill and experience, not the sword you upgraded slightly to do 5% more damage, or the 15 extra hp to your 300.


Thanks to the both of you. I now understand that I stand to loose only the souls that I have gathered by knocking out the enemies. So souls are essentially my currency to purchase stuff, correct? What other use does it (souls) have?

Surray, when you say "you have to spend it before you die twice in a row", where do I spend this?

Also, is the below true?

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You can beat this game as a level 1 character. There isn't an enemy in the game that requires you to have a certain amount of HP or strength to defeat. In most RPGs, if you get wiped out by an enemy, your low level/stats/equipment probably had a decent amount of influence in that loss. In Demons Souls, you can literally go from the first fight to the last boss at Level 1. The reason being is that Demon's Souls difficulty is in it's gameplay, not it's numbers. If you die, it's because YOU made a mistake or YOU haven't comprehended the enemy's pattern properly.


If that's true, then it's an awesome gameplay mechanic. It means you just need to prepare yourself to overcome the difficulty, as opposed to levelling up your character to a certain number to defeat 'X' enemy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 08:49    Post subject:
It's completely true and it's what makes demon's souls and dark souls so awesome Smile

There might be a section where you die 15 times, but you'll learn from it and get better at playing the game,
and the next time you come there it might even seem easy and you can laugh at the time where this kicked your ass,
but not because your character stats increased, but because your skill at playing the game increased.

By the end, Demons Souls and Dark Souls make you feel like a badass that can take on anything.
It's really funny. In the beginning the games kick your ass, but by the end you'll have learned so much that nothing seems impossible any more.



In regards to souls:
They're currency and EXP. You use them to buy items, weapons, armour, sorceries and miracles (2 different schools of magic), upgrade weapons, and upgrade your character stats.
So basically they're used for everything.
With a few exceptions you spend them in the nexus which is your hub from where you
can go to any level.
At the beginning of each level, and after each boss (which marks the beginning of the next level of an area) there's a teleporter that can take you back to the nexus.
You can also learn a miracle that can take you back later.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 09:37    Post subject:
@Shawn_Hunter talking about playing rpg game slowly?
Dark souls first 2 "areas" 11 hours for me Laughing
Don't worry. thats not a spoiler


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 10:02    Post subject:
yeah for souls patience is paramount.
rushing things is the #1 thing to get you killed.

thats why raging is so dangerous in these games..
you try the patient approach but fail somewhere and get pissed off so you want to get through faster to get back to where you were.. but that only gets you in even more trouble.

always stay calm, take your time, dont rush anything.

damn all this talking about demons souls makes me wanna play it again!


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 13:02    Post subject:
I really like the deapth of Demon Souls.

Beat the game, but wasn´t too happy with character. As usual the character was all over the place to be able to do everything and pick up everything on first playthru...

But now when I started new character it´s for a much smoother experience. Picking the worlds and it zones for what benefits the characters development the most. Started as Royal and going for stronger magician build. Crescent falchion(4:1), Soulrays(3:1), Binded armour(1:1), Silver coronet(default) and rings for higher magic damage(3:1) and magic juice refill(default). Cleared 1:1, 1:2, 2:1, 3:1, 4:1. Character seems almost too good, since I can oneshot skeletons in 4:1.

And yeah, one get indeed much better. Only died twice yesterday. One in a room with exploding barrels, because I forgot there was an enemy in there (1:1) and one time when I fell down the escalator by blacksmith (2:1). Pure white world tendencies whohoo. And I´m saving all ressurection stones to go pure black world later.

Seriously the world and player tendencies got me shit confused first time thru and I had to look it up. I´m happy they got rid of that in Dark souls...also the overall world in demon souls seems so tiny. Every world has like only 2-3 levels, the last boss is always right after the one before. I guess I just wanted more.

And ffs why take down servers? The online features are too cool to dismiss. The harsh crude world in demon souls will get even lonlier. Stupid...anyway, for you that haven´t played it, hurry up and pick it up before they close the servers by end of May was it?
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Apr 2012 13:49    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
yeah for souls patience is paramount.
rushing things is the #1 thing to get you killed.

thats why raging is so dangerous in these games..
you try the patient approach but fail somewhere and get pissed off so you want to get through faster to get back to where you were.. but that only gets you in even more trouble.

always stay calm, take your time, dont rush anything.


This, a thousand times this!!

Happened to me in Sen's Fortes a few days ago, where I lost about 60.000 souls, and I went apeshit and only died more. Think at the end of that "session" I died about 5 times in a row.

I ended up feeling ashamed and stupid after all that. Failed Troll



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PostPosted: Sat, 14th Apr 2012 16:59    Post subject:
Surray wrote:
It's completely true and it's what makes demon's souls and dark souls so awesome Smile

There might be a section where you die 15 times, but you'll learn from it and get better at playing the game,
and the next time you come there it might even seem easy and you can laugh at the time where this kicked your ass,
but not because your character stats increased, but because your skill at playing the game increased.

By the end, Demons Souls and Dark Souls make you feel like a badass that can take on anything.
It's really funny. In the beginning the games kick your ass, but by the end you'll have learned so much that nothing seems impossible any more.


That's fantastic! So this game essentially relies on your personal skill for advancement. Looking at the time some people take to invest in an RPG for reaching higher levels was insanity. This is welcomed change, albeit not an easy one. Wink

Surray wrote:
In regards to souls:
They're currency and EXP. You use them to buy items, weapons, armour, sorceries and miracles (2 different schools of magic), upgrade weapons, and upgrade your character stats.
So basically they're used for everything.
With a few exceptions you spend them in the nexus which is your hub from where you
can go to any level.
At the beginning of each level, and after each boss (which marks the beginning of the next level of an area) there's a teleporter that can take you back to the nexus.
You can also learn a miracle that can take you back later.


So what's the best way of spending these "souls", before I die multiple times and loose most of what I have accumulated? Can I teleport to the nexus at point during the game?

KillerCrocker wrote:
@Shawn_Hunter talking about playing rpg game slowly?
Dark souls first 2 "areas" 11 hours for me Laughing
Don't worry. thats not a spoiler


I can only imagine, Crocker. Dark Souls will have Skyrim for breakfast, when it comes to difficulty. So it's only plausible that you take your time in that game. For me, Skyrim is turning out to be a chore. A very long one at that. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Apr 2012 10:28    Post subject:
Asshats, lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Apr 2012 10:29    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
One question; people sometimes leave messages... like 'take a step forward' on a freaking cliff face. I see this quite a lot. Are there paths only some people can see for some reason, or are they being asshats?


So-so. Sometimes you would be surprised where you might end up dropping, even if at first at first glance it looks like it's just a quick/long way to your death.
Dark Souls has a few of these moments.

But at the same time keep in mind that it could also be some asshole fucking around. Dark Souls has a lot of these moments. Cool Face


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th May 2012 12:58    Post subject:
Does any one know if the US servers shutdown on 31 may would effect the European version ?


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