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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 10:20    Post subject:
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I'd really like a new armada game.

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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 11:10    Post subject:
It's based on this new, shitty remake of JJ Abrams, what did you guys expect, lol...
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 11:12    Post subject:
Aside from the LENS FLAREWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!! I actually really enjoyed the new Star Trek.. ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 11:13    Post subject:
WTF the new star trek movie was aweomse!


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 11:14    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
WTF the new star trek movie was aweomse!


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 12:09    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
WTF the new star trek movie was aweomse!


That is correct, but if you add that movie to the older kirk movies you wonder why there is less action from him Sad (like jumping from that platform for a sample).
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 12:27    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
WTF the new star trek movie was aweomse!


+1. Am looking forward to the next one, which also has Sherlock's Benedit Cumberbatch in it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 12:30    Post subject:
Whatsupdog wrote:
Horrordee wrote:
WTF the new star trek movie was aweomse!


+1. Am looking forward to the next one, which also has Sherlock's Benedit Cumberbatch in it.


Playing a villain too, no less! ^_^
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Casus




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 13:10    Post subject:
If, by awesome, you mean the new Star Trek was a piece of shit with a cop-out reason for going against canon, the destruction of great characters, an incredibly weak villain, a non-sensical plot (red matter?!?), gigantic plot holes, and so on - you're definitely right!
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 13:21    Post subject:
To each his own; I for one enjoyed the movie and am sure the next one will be entertaining as well Smile
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Casus




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 13:24    Post subject:
I'm just a bitter fan of Star Trek in general, who couldn't handle their "fresh" take on the franchise Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 13:26    Post subject:
I'm a huge fan of Star Trek... BUT only from TNG onwards. I was never all that keen on Camp Trek: The Sexual Conquests of Kirk. Give me Janeway, Picard, Archer and Sisko any day. I thoroughly enjoyed the reboot from J.J Abrams, which is why the canon isn't as important as it was made as a reboot, with nods to the originals.

Just please, for the love of god and my eye-sight, let's have less lens flare for the sequel Sad
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Casus




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 13:49    Post subject:
Camp Trek needs to be observed in context. It's abysmal by the standards of today, but it was directly responsible for many new concepts both in science fiction and television in general. It also meant a LOT in the fight against racism.

Most of what's great in Star Trek (overall) - was born with TOS. Without it and Gene Roddenberry - we'd have nothing like it. At least, I don't see from where.

TNG and DS9 were great shows.

Voyager was a complete travesty, but that's just my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Apr 2012 14:15    Post subject:
Guess I'm just spoiled by the TNG, my favourite TV show of all time and amazing characters in it. This new Star Trek move was decent action flick but it's nowhere close to what Star Trek really is about. And it's definetely not about crazy action sequences and all this over the top crap.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 08:10    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
a non-sensical plot (red matter?!?)


wat.

This confuses me. LETS REVERSE THIS POLARITY, GUYS. BECAUSE STAR TREK ACTUALLY USES REAL SCIENCE AND STUFFZ!
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Casus




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 11:25    Post subject:
It's not about being realistic - but about caring about your story.

Tolkien isn't realistic - but he clearly cared about his characters and their motivations, and he tried to make it relevant to real life.

The best Star Trek is exactly like that.

The new Star Trek movie is exactly opposite to that. But by all means, keep supporting that sort of movie if you think it's the way they should be made.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 11:42    Post subject:
I think that the new Star Trek movie was a "blockbuster meh", it had little to nothing in common with Star Trek, yes the effects were great, but the story was to fucking crap, it had no real place in Star Trek universe, and Red Matter ? Really ? What we will have next, a Purple Matter ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 11:43    Post subject:
K0tY wrote:
I think that the new Star Trek movie was a "blockbuster meh", it had little to nothing in common with Star Trek, yes the effects were great, but the story was to fucking crap, it had no real place in Star Trek universe, and Red Matter ? Really ? What we will have next, a Purple Matter ?


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 12:36    Post subject:
The "old" Star Trek was about dreams. It was started in times where people didn't have computers, fancy smartphones and shit like that. And it was times that people wasn't stuffed up their asses with consumptionism but rather recovering from war and later living in fear of cold war becoming WW3. And Star Trek showed that there were somekind of bright political correct hippi future. I remember as being little brat I wanted to venture into space while watching TNG.
But nowadays this concepts are boring. People have games, movies have much better visual quality and those old stories are just boring.
So we got pew pew stories with explosions and little meaning.
I liked the Abrams movie but as a mindless guilty pleasure and not as proper Star Trek movie.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 15:11    Post subject:
If you don't like Star Trek then you're a massive faggot. This is a proven fact!

What's great about Star Trek, is what's great about all good sci-fi. It's giving us an extroverted view upon ourself socially, or as a species if you will. South Park does the same thing although with a lot more satire and maybe with more social critique. We often judge many of the civilizations, races or social mechanics we experience in sci-fi harsly, without realizing we're just as backwater and prone to the same problems here on earth. Ethnicity, class, religion, peculiar customs, sexuality, respect for life not seen as intelligent as ourself and so on. Star Wars is just entertainment. Star Trek is good sci-fi.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 15:15    Post subject:
Taffelost wrote:
If you don't like Star Trek then you're a massive faggot. This is a proven fact!


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 15:20    Post subject:
This looks like a terrible console game, but I hope it's good cause it's Star Trek. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 16:03    Post subject:
I'd REALLY love a new Bridge Commander game!


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 17:58    Post subject:
StrEagle wrote:
I'd REALLY love a new Bridge Commander game!

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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 18:44    Post subject:
@Casus and K0tY:
Take it from the expert:


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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 19:02    Post subject:
I'm a little disappointed with Dr Tyson, that he state such as a thing as "if Red Matter can create a black hole in the centre of a planet, it can create one on the surface" -- the canon and logic behind Red Matter is that it requires the intense heat and gravitational pressure that can only be found in the core of a planet or a star* Very Happy



*or in the case of the Narada, a warp core explosion.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 19:25    Post subject:
The canon and logic? Ah Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 19:27    Post subject:
Say what you want about Star Trek, they at least try to explain why things are the way they are.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 19:37    Post subject:
Normally, I do appreciate that they do - but in a move like the new Star Trek - I think it's a pretty wasted effort.
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Apr 2012 19:42    Post subject:
True, but that's just it with movies.. you only get a very limited amount of time to present the plot. The previous ST movies worked so well because everything and everyone was already well established due to their respective series'. This new reboot was just that; new and rebooted. The only nod to the original saga being the names and the alternate universe plot basis.

Is it Star Trek? Is it Next Gen or DS9, Voyager or even Enterprise? Naw, but I think it was still damned enjoyable and served as the basis for a Star Trek revival, since Enterprise - sadly - bombed so spectacularly Sad
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