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KillerCrocker

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Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2012 21:35 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

But I am only using this official 3gb texture pack. Not the 2k pack. It works as fast with pack as without it, but with it it just drops to desktop. Maybe If I were to enable only one of two .esp files? If not, I am good without that pack anywa. As for my spec, it looks around the same as 360version but it runs 60fps 3080 \| ps5 pro Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..." SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies" deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"

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JBeckman
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Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2012 21:39 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

The reason the VRAM requirements increase so even with just the official texture pack is that there's a huge amount of textures it affects and sometimes it doesn't even go 512x512 -> 1024x1024 but 512x512 -> 2048x2048 either of which will drastically increase file size since you can fit four 512x512 textures in a 1024x1024 one. (And then again from 1024 to 2048, I'm probably explaining this oddly but take Parthurnax for example with the default file size being something like 618 KB up to 5.3 MB depending on the resolution, I don't fully remember, with the texture pack the file size is instead 16 MB and using a 2048x2048 texture, it'd be around 48 to 96 MB should they have lowered compression slightly more but that's rarely done.) EDIT: It actually modifies nearly every single texture in the game but it does skip several landscape file and numerous clutter items unfortunately. (There's a full summary somewhere, creatures, weapons and armor/clothes get the 512 -> 2048 treatment mostly with others going from 256 to 512 or 512 to 1024 most of the time though with some exceptions plus the above linked to bug fixes.)

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KillerCrocker

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Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2012 21:59 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Thanks for explanation. I understand. but still - it shouldnt just quit to desktop. It could... stutter like other games or something. whatever 3080 \| ps5 pro Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..." SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies" deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"

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fable2

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Posted: Thu, 22nd Mar 2012 22:28 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

i don't think it should quit , i have a shitty hd4850 with only 512mb of ram and i am currently using the Bethesda hi res pack plus skyrim hd Lite and numerous other texture mods , it doesn't run perfectly smooth but it's still running ok. i see you only have 2 gig of system ram , maybe that's why.

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JBeckman
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2012 07:34 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

If it runs out of VRAM it will try to use system ram and that will cause a lot of stuttering, game shouldn't silently crash though just as you say (That's a game error when it happens, it crashes silently.) and if it's a RAM that is running out you normally get this little warning about how the system is low on ram and will risk "crashing" (Well not quite.) unless you free up more by quitting a few applications. What could trigger the crash too is if the game runs out of address space but the game should be LAA patched (Well it is.) to avoid this by being able to utilizes ~3.5 GB of RAM instead of the usual 2.0 GB of 32-bit applications. Are you certain it is the texture pack by the way? Disable the high res ESP file (It's blank by the way, only used to force load those two BSA archives.) and try again, it could be some other mod or addon such as texture packs or similar so it's worth testing just to be sure.

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Sertorius

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2012 07:55 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

is there a way to "upgrade" shouts ? cause having killed so many dragons, I was able to unlock all of these powers BUT now I get several dragon souls and don't know what to do with. BTW, can't stop to kill dragons, battles are always so epic and to finallly succeed to kill one is a pure satisfaction, lol.

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KillerCrocker

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2012 07:56 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

I already checked that. It doesn't crash with 2 .esp texture files disabled but with them on, it crashes after no more than 5 minutes. And system doesn't struggle or anything. Game works smoothly and bam. Maybe I should reinstall it. 3080 \| ps5 pro Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..." SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies" deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"

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JBeckman
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Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2012 08:10 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

What you could do is to try and alt-tab around right before it crashes and bring up the task manager to see just how much memory TESV.exe is consuming and how much is left for the system, if it's like 95% use or similar then it's likely memory related after all but that's more of a rough estimate than a full test and it doesn't solve the problem unfortunately. (I assume drivers are also fairly recent but if the game is stable otherwise then that shouldn't be a concern.) And as for shouts you can only use souls to unlock them based on what words you have discovered, finding all three means you can spend three souls but as there's around just ~20 shouts killing 60 dragons isn't too difficult so after a longer game period most people amass more souls than is ever required.

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KillerCrocker

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2012 08:23 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

it takes 1,2gb of memory and windows takes like 500 so its total 1700 and proboably growing. Alt-tab sucks in skyrim 3080 \| ps5 pro Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..." SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies" deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"

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Sertorius

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Mar 2012 09:08 Post subject:

JBeckman wrote:

And as for shouts you can only use souls to unlock them based on what words you have discovered, finding all three means you can spend three souls but as there's around just ~20 shouts killing 60 dragons isn't too difficult so after a longer game period most people amass more souls than is ever required.

OK, thx

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Sertorius

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Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 09:15 Post subject:

Reg67 wrote:

VGAdeadcafe wrote:

When the FUCK will they fix the Legate Rikke bitch not having the proper dialogue option to advance the civil war questline ? (exact point is : Regain Winterhold hold)

I am doing that line at the moment, what I did was fast travel somewhere far away from her then fast travel back. I had to do it a few times but eventually the "something to report" or whatever it says popped up.

Having said that I can't even go near Riften Sad

any quests regarding Riften I have to use the console to progress them. If I go anywhere near Riften and then save anywhere in the game my game crashes every time. its as if 'finding' Riften messes the whole game up for me.

finally, have you tried to delete "skyrim.ini" and "skyrimPrefs.ini" from C:/MyDocuments/MyGames/Skyrim ? Cause I have heard it could solve the door locked during the misison with Esbern. It could maybe solve other bugs, who knows.

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Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 21:53 Post subject:

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boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:

i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then

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KillerCrocker

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Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 21:54 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

PC mods wins big 3080 \| ps5 pro Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..." SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies" deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"

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schmoo

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Posted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 22:59 Post subject:

duggler72 wrote:

SSAO is broken in the 1.5 update, we are all fuckin then Sad

only with the reloaded crack.
steam version works with ssao

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ixigia
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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 01:00 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

The Total Realism mod was recently updated also: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=10843 It's not perfect but it's probably the closest thing to a hardcore mode Random creations of an insane mind / Screens from Bulgaria [Early Access]

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 01:17 Post subject:

schmoo wrote:

duggler72 wrote:

SSAO is broken in the 1.5 update, we are all fuckin then Sad

only with the reloaded crack.
steam version works with ssao

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duggler72

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 10:46 Post subject:

schmoo wrote:

duggler72 wrote:

SSAO is broken in the 1.5 update, we are all fuckin then Sad

only with the reloaded crack.
steam version works with ssao

is there any proof for this?

Paintface wrote:

my game crashes to desktop when using alt + f4

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sabin1981
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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 10:47 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2600608 Steam forum says otherwise, schmoo.

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duggler72

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 10:51 Post subject:

Using the Fallout3 SSAO in Nvidia Inspector works, but game stutters and lags like shit with it, pre 1.5 patch SSAO was fine and performing good.

Without SSAO the Game looks kinda flat, it adds quite a lot of athmosphere ..

Paintface wrote:

my game crashes to desktop when using alt + f4

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Silent_Lurker

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 11:26 Post subject:

duggler72 wrote:

schmoo wrote:

duggler72 wrote:

SSAO is broken in the 1.5 update, we are all fuckin then Sad

only with the reloaded crack.
steam version works with ssao

is there any proof for this?

No.

SSAO broken here too in v1.5(legit version) but outdoor only, inside is still working fine.

Sad

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4treyu

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 11:41 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Yep, Skyrim SSAO bits are broken outdoors, work indoors. If you use Fallout 3 bits you get SSAO everywhere but like it was said, lags like hell and doesn't look as pretty as the "native" one, not worth it imo.

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JBeckman
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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 15:55 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

The grass shadows is incompatible with certain SSAO methods, ENB for example causes all manners of bugs (Gray/white image, striped shadows outdoors and some other stuff.) and I guess the same goes for Nvidia when forcing it, at least until they update their profile for Skyrim to work around this. (I read about it on the Realistic Lightning mod discussion on SkyrimNexus where a lot of people were complaining only for it to be discovered it was due to SSAO and patch 1.5 which I found quite interesting.)

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VGAdeadcafe

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:12 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Where is this SSAO option ? Anyway, I did the main College quest and now the Legate Rikke bitch showed me the dialogue option to continue the civil war quest line, woohoo !!

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:20 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Either via Nvidia's control panel or via a third party plugin (or injector or what to call it.) called ENB. NVCP should be a bit demanding but still very optimized, ENB if you set quality to higher values or enable SSAOSSIL (EDIT: Screen-space ambient occlusion with screen-space indirect lightning.) will hit performance far more but looks better, or at least it used to but Nvidia has updated their SSAO method once already and patch 1.5 kinda broke both for now. Last edited by JBeckman on Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:21; edited 1 time in total

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fable2

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:21 Post subject:

VGAdeadcafe wrote:

Where is this SSAO option ?

Anyway, I did the main College quest and now the Legate Rikke bitch showed me the dialogue option to continue the civil war quest line, woohoo !!

i think they are talking about something for Nvidia cards only .

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VGAdeadcafe

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:31 Post subject:

fable2 wrote:

VGAdeadcafe wrote:

Where is this SSAO option ?

Anyway, I did the main College quest and now the Legate Rikke bitch showed me the dialogue option to continue the civil war quest line, woohoo !!

i think they are talking about something for Nvidia cards only .

You mean for everyone that doesn't have AMD shit ? Laughing

Anyway, gfx are fine as they are now, I'm not gonna start messing, I've even downloaded the 2k textures but haven't applied them yet.

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russ80

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:39 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

680 + enb + bokeh = At least i hope so card arrives on monday

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Posted: Sun, 25th Mar 2012 16:59 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

You have already bought the GTX680 ? You ******* bastard [spoiler][quote="SteamDRM"]i've bought mohw :derp: / FPS of the year! [/quote] [quote="SteamDRM"][quote="b0se"]BLACK OPS GOTY[/quote] No.[/quote][/spoiler]