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I don't agree with that, see, heres the thing. Trilogies work, if they are planned out as trilogies.
Matrix was not planned out as a trilogy.
But supposedly mass effect was, but obviously it wasn't.
The original point of a trilogy was to tell an over arcing story, that could not be told in two hours. A lot of people can't sit down still for 6 hours straight watching a movie. I think original trilogys came from jidaigeki samurai movies from Japan.
Look at star wars, the original trilogy worked out well, because that's what he originally had planned for the over arcing story.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:05 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | Anyone notice in ME2, ammo was in reasonably short supply?
Anyone notice in ME3 you practically couldn't run out?  |
eh i thought they were about the same.
i did run out of ammo on my rifle 4 times during me3 though. |
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:14 Post subject: |
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| xDBS wrote: | I don't agree with that, see, heres the thing. Trilogies work, if they are planned out as trilogies.
Matrix was not planned out as a trilogy.
But supposedly mass effect was, but obviously it wasn't.
The original point of a trilogy was to tell an over arcing story, that could not be told in two hours. A lot of people can't sit down still for 6 hours straight watching a movie. I think original trilogys came from jidaigeki samurai movies from Japan.
Look at star wars, the original trilogy worked out well, because that's what he originally had planned for the over arcing story. |
the ending in matrix was golden (THE matrix, 1). it should have ended there.
ME1 ending was open, it should have ended in ME2.
ME3 just feels like forced upon.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:23 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | Kaltern wrote: | Anyone notice in ME2, ammo was in reasonably short supply?
Anyone notice in ME3 you practically couldn't run out? :lol: |
eh i thought they were about the same.
i did run out of ammo on my rifle 4 times during me3 though. |
I also think I ran out occasionally in ME2 but in ME3 I never ran out ever.
After every battle I would run over 20 ammo pickups on the way to the next battle and never needed them as 1 or 2 were enough to restock everything.
But I was using mostly sniper rifle and shotgun so my ammo use was very efficient.
Maybe that played a part in it.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:28 Post subject: |
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Here is a screenshot just before starting the last mission: 
ME1, ME2 imported and unaltered save files, unmodified coalesced file. I did every side missiomn I could find, scanned every planet, talked to everybody both on the Normandy as well as on the Citadel after every mission. So, yeah, whoever said you can't go beyond 3,600 or whatever it was... not true.
My reputation meter was about 95 % paragon in the end, thus I did not get the best ending. I know of one renegade option I took, no idea where the rest came from. It seems to be possible, if you can do a 100 % paragon (renegade too?) run and at the same time achieve my amount of war assets or more, to get the best ending.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:32 Post subject: |
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It was shown in several video reviews, that you can reach these kinda numbers. However you can only get to 50% readiness, unless you play the MP stuff (but apparantly there is no difference if you have 50% or 100% readiness, concerning the ending/s)
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:34 Post subject: |
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I wonder why they even had 3 choices in the end. It's pretty much a given that the right ending was the one in the "right".
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:37 Post subject: |
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Right ending is the only one that actually causes additional casualties since most technology would apparently get destroyed. With left or middle the geth and technology are spared.
Plus right ending will lead to war in the future, according to the star child.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:37 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | http://www.actiontrip.com/news/worst-mass-effect-3-video-released/032112_7
Another promo video, apparently this one is worse than the earlier one they showed.
(Which I think was a advertisement from Game or Gamestop.) |
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:43 Post subject: |
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| blackdochia wrote: | http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/17171/rumor-mass-effect-dlc-coming-to-final-fantasy-xiii-2
Let the dogs of war bark:D |
It's "Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:44 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | It was shown in several video reviews, that you can reach these kinda numbers. However you can only get to 50% readiness, unless you play the MP stuff (but apparantly there is no difference if you have 50% or 100% readiness, concerning the ending/s) |
I know, but wherever you look it's said that you need either 5K EMS or 4K plus a 100 % paragon meter. 5K EMS is impossible by doing the SP campaign alone but it might be possible to get over 4K, like I did, and be purely paragon (or renegade, dunno).
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:53 Post subject: |
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Nah! Because we can bark as much as we want and Biowhore will make more money from the masses.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 18:58 Post subject: |
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dont blame bioware. Blame the stockholders and Board of directors who force them into pushing out BS for the sake of making more profit.
developers are like slaves, you cant blame them for the crap they are forced to do.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 19:34 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | | I know, but wherever you look it's said that you need either 5K EMS or 4K plus a 100 % paragon meter. 5K EMS is impossible by doing the SP campaign alone but it might be possible to get over 4K, like I did, and be purely paragon (or renegade, dunno). |
You don't need full paragon or renegade to get the "best" ending at 4k. I got it with barely over 80% renegade and a ~4200 EMS.
And people have counted up the exact amount of assets available in game, and ~3600 is all there is. What you're seeing is a bug that doubles the base value of some of the categories.
| Sin317 wrote: | dont blame bioware. Blame the stockholders and Board of directors who force them into pushing out BS for the sake of making more profit.
developers are like slaves, you cant blame them for the crap they are forced to do. |
BioWare answers to the same people now as they did before EA bought them -- Ray Muzyka and Greg Zeschuk. Blaming anyone but themselves for the crap they churn out now is incredibly naive.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 19:54 Post subject: |
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| xDBS wrote: | I don't agree with that, see, heres the thing. Trilogies work, if they are planned out as trilogies.
Matrix was not planned out as a trilogy.
But supposedly mass effect was, but obviously it wasn't.
The original point of a trilogy was to tell an over arcing story, that could not be told in two hours. A lot of people can't sit down still for 6 hours straight watching a movie. I think original trilogys came from jidaigeki samurai movies from Japan.
Look at star wars, the original trilogy worked out well, because that's what he originally had planned for the over arcing story. |
Mass Effect was planned as a trilogy from the start. Drew (the lead writer for ME1 and part of ME2) had the whole script laid out for how the trilogy would go. For Mass Effect 3, Bioware threw that out and let Mac Walters write up a new one. Hence why all the foreshadowing in the previous games never actually lead to anything and why the end of ME3 has nothing to do with what's happened earlier.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 19:57 Post subject: |
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| dezztroy wrote: | | xDBS wrote: | I don't agree with that, see, heres the thing. Trilogies work, if they are planned out as trilogies.
Matrix was not planned out as a trilogy.
But supposedly mass effect was, but obviously it wasn't.
The original point of a trilogy was to tell an over arcing story, that could not be told in two hours. A lot of people can't sit down still for 6 hours straight watching a movie. I think original trilogys came from jidaigeki samurai movies from Japan.
Look at star wars, the original trilogy worked out well, because that's what he originally had planned for the over arcing story. |
Mass Effect was planned as a trilogy from the start. Drew (the lead writer for ME1 and part of ME2) had the whole script laid out for how the trilogy would go. For Mass Effect 3, Bioware threw that out and let Mac Walters write up a new one. Hence why all the foreshadowing in the previous games never actually lead to anything and why the end of ME3 has nothing to do with what's happened earlier. |
that would explain a lot of things indeed.
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 20:02 Post subject: |
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| Palegod wrote: | You don't need full paragon or renegade to get the "best" ending at 4k. I got it with barely over 80% renegade and a ~4200 EMS.
And people have counted up the exact amount of assets available in game, and ~3600 is all there is. What you're seeing is a bug that doubles the base value of some of the categories. |
Just to get you right: It is a bug showing more EMS than I actually have then? My real value is morel ikely to be somewhere around 3,600 then, is what you're saying?
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 20:11 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | Here is a screenshot just before starting the last mission:
ME1, ME2 imported and unaltered save files, unmodified coalesced file. I did every side missiomn I could find, scanned every planet, talked to everybody both on the Normandy as well as on the Citadel after every mission. So, yeah, whoever said you can't go beyond 3,600 or whatever it was... not true.
My reputation meter was about 95 % paragon in the end, thus I did not get the best ending. I know of one renegade option I took, no idea where the rest came from. It seems to be possible, if you can do a 100 % paragon (renegade too?) run and at the same time achieve my amount of war assets or more, to get the best ending. |
Believe it or not but your coalesced is modded, people already decompiled it and you cant get higher then 3550.
What is your crc32 for that file ?
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 20:26 Post subject: |
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| Twinny wrote: | | What is your crc32 for that file ? |
540053C7F6EED78D92099CF37F239E8E
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 20:37 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | | Twinny wrote: | | What is your crc32 for that file ? |
540053C7F6EED78D92099CF37F239E8E |
Interesting, did you mod the save file then ???
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 20:44 Post subject: |
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how can savefiles possibly have the same checksum ? ^^
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Mar 2012 21:03 Post subject: |
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| OLime wrote: | | Palegod wrote: | You don't need full paragon or renegade to get the "best" ending at 4k. I got it with barely over 80% renegade and a ~4200 EMS.
And people have counted up the exact amount of assets available in game, and ~3600 is all there is. What you're seeing is a bug that doubles the base value of some of the categories. |
Just to get you right: It is a bug showing more EMS than I actually have then? My real value is morel ikely to be somewhere around 3,600 then, is what you're saying? |
Right, you'll see something like Krogan Clans being worth 600 as their base value instead of 300.
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