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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:26    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The netcode is far from exceptional! Come on! :x It's awful and it lags to hell and back constantly, I'm almost NEVER below 600ms and even when it's green it's 350, which is fuck all to do with "framerate" - I don't know about you, but I feel that and I see it constantly. Just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean nobody else does.. and 350ms is unacceptable.

I wish Blizzard would offer a strict offline mode for those of us that don't want to "party up, lolz!!" --- Let us be offline, lock the characters if you want, but honestly... online-only is not fun for solo players.


dude I'm serious, it has never lagged at all for me in the 12 hours or so I played total.
when I attack something it gets hit instantly and there's no delay.
my friends had the same experience and we're all playing with like 300-400 ping which is normal for eu>us


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:26    Post subject:
Famou wrote:
Omfg still no invite.

Same here of course, seems like our invites went to the mums instead Razz
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:29    Post subject:
And I'll say again; just because you don't feel it doesn't mean nobody else does. The lag issues are the basis for significant complaints in the beta, everything from rubber-banding, teleporting, hit registration or even downright freezing with nothing happening for several seconds. I've only been playing for a few hours and it's happened more times than I could feasibly count - often to the point where I simply have to close the game and relaunch it.
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pillermann




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:32    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
To zoom in, press Z. It's too extreme though, making it practically unplayable at that level of closeness. Shame the mouse wheel can't be used in stages, like TQ for instance.

Yea, who would ever want to zoom in even further? It goes from close to super close heh. They copied everything else from WoW, why not the camera? In WoW I could zoom way the fuck out by changing a single line in the ini. Fucking consoles.

sabin1981 wrote:
And I'll say again; just because you don't feel it doesn't mean nobody else does. The lag issues are the basis for significant complaints in the beta, everything from rubber-banding, teleporting, hit registration or even downright freezing with nothing happening for several seconds. I've only been playing for a few hours and it's happened more times than I could feasibly count - often to the point where I simply have to close the game and relaunch it.

I got that too, though I thought it's because I started the game while it was still downloading files. Seems to have gotten better once it finished downloading everything, no more freezes atm.


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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:33    Post subject:
Yeah, the rubber banding gets noticeable, but it's only a beta issue I'm sure.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:36    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Yeah, the rubber banding gets noticeable, but it's only a beta issue I'm sure.


Aye, I'm hoping so.. and I've not attacked anyone over it. I'm well aware the beta is going to have issues, which is why I'm hoping it improves when the retail release comes. I still don't/won't/can't accept 300-350ms as "fine" (sorry Surray, it's simply not fine) which is why I lament the lack of SP-only offline. Lock the characters so that offline-made chars can never be used online, or even LAN, if that's what it takes to protect Blizzard's AH money... but please, at least give us something.

I have zero intention of every playing online or co-op, aRPGs like this are my alone time games, so I don't really understand why I'm forced into using online features and restrictions.



... because damn I want this game. Even just a few hours in the beta and I'm all So Much Win Crying or Very sad
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locke89




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:48    Post subject:
*sigh* No invite here, too. Thank god I had other means to play it - just finished 4h session on a borrowed accoount with my DH and Monk and I'm really impressed. The game is LOADS of fun, especially in full party. The latency is definetely the issue, sometimes it's ok, sometimes it's not, I can't wait to play on EU servers with normal ping - IT WILL BE GLORIOUS Very Happy

Anyway, May can't come soon enough. It will be Diablo Summer for me, I already know that. Hopefuly the weather will be shit, hahaha Very Happy Hoping to play with you guys, too Smile

Oh, and the so much complained difficulty? Imho it's well done. Some champions pack are really dangerous and I got a feeling on Hell/Inferno D3 will be really challenging. 2 more months, eh......
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:49    Post subject:
I know... two whole months! Crying or Very sad
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:51    Post subject:
it is fine when it works, sabin Smile
but yeah if you're having issues then there must be issues. let's just hope they'll be resolved.
because offline is not coming for this ever.

you should know why, too! it's piracy protection obviously.
diablo 3 is impossible to crack because there is no single player. next best thing is server emulators which will never match the real deal.
the second you have offline play it's simple to crack just like any other game.

it's unfortunate, even though I don't plan on ever playing this solo I do recognize that
people want to play it solo and offline, but I just don't see activision blizzard giving in to that.


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:52    Post subject:
played through the catherdral and stopped there, it's enough as i know i will buy the game. Hope they don't do any quick dumbing before they finish it.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:54    Post subject:
Of course it's fine when it works Very Happy If it worked, I wouldn't be complaining grinhurt As for the offline mode being AP? Yeah, I don't doubt it.. but I also believe it's a two-pronged deal; AP protection *and* it's a way of forcing people to play online and possibly make use of the AH.

This is AVTI, afterall.
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D34Dite




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:56    Post subject:
no offline mode is the one thing that pisses me off about the game.... but even that didnt stop me buying it... twice, once retail and then on battle.net. the retail is a possible giveaway in the hump about d3 release...maybe.


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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:56    Post subject:
yeah it kills 2 birds with 1 stone. all the more reason for them to never offer offline.


I played mostly about 2 or 3 months ago when there were a lot fewer players in the beta.
maybe the lag issues are just overloaded beta servers due to the massive increase in beta participants lately?
especially now with the servers being down for a few days and beta patch 15 hitting, everyone who has the beta would be logging back in.

maybe try it again in a few days when things calm down again, maybe it'll run better.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:58    Post subject:
As much as it irritates me, I honestly do think I'll be picking this up anyhow. I'll shop around for a cheap key, possibly see what the Ruskie situation brings, but yeah... I want more Monk action! Very Happy
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 16:58    Post subject:
wonder how many % goes to blizzard from the real cash auction house.
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locke89




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:05    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
As much as it irritates me, I honestly do think I'll be picking this up anyhow. I'll shop around for a cheap key, possibly see what the Ruskie situation brings, but yeah... I want more Monk action! Very Happy


Isn't the russian version of the game delayed until June the 7th? The key from that version might not work, better check it out before buying Very Happy I already pre-ordered and paid for my key - 50$, eh :<
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:16    Post subject:
I'm tempted as well (although definitely not hyped) but the lack of an offline mode is almost deal-breaker for me and my slow and unstable connection.

At this point it's either a cheap key (unlikely it seems) or no game. Nice way to lose potential customers Razz
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Melhisedek




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:19    Post subject:
Guys with beta access... did you have a active WoW subscription when you got your key?
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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:24    Post subject:
Honestly, do you think everyone who wants to play Diablo 3 needs to have WoW?
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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:27    Post subject:
Melhisedek wrote:
Guys with beta access... did you have a active WoW subscription when you got your key?

No that isnt important at all.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:29    Post subject:
Melhisedek wrote:
Guys with beta access... did you have a active WoW subscription when you got your key?


Nope. I only got D2 and LOD when I got invited.
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:44    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Melhisedek wrote:
Guys with beta access... did you have a active WoW subscription when you got your key?


Nope. I only got D2 and LOD when I got invited.


I've read of people who only had SC1 Anthology or whatever it's called, never even installed it, and got in the beta. It can't be completely random since you've got guys that have gotten in with five (or even more) accounts but random selection is a major factor.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:47    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
I'm tempted as well (although definitely not hyped) but the lack of an offline mode is almost deal-breaker for me and my slow and unstable connection.

At this point it's either a cheap key (unlikely it seems) or no game. Nice way to lose potential customers Razz

Same here .
I know this is probably an anti-pirate solution despite they are saying that it isn't AP solution. But i secretly hope they will fail with it same as Ubisoft did Smile And when they make console diablo which will offer offline - players will be raging Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:47    Post subject:
Still... nothing... Rage


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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:48    Post subject:
And i played for 20 mins before stopping Troll Face


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:48    Post subject:
All I have on my BNet account is SC1 -- and nope, no invite here.
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 17:48    Post subject:
Random beta invites are random


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 18:20    Post subject:
about the lag etc : (and this is purely speculating)

is it at all possible,that the beta has a debugger running, that constantly streams information to the server, thereby creating maybe lag and in the same time also creating poor(er) performance in general ?

Just an idea.
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BlackDwarf




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 18:25    Post subject:
I've got every possible Blizz game on my account, multiple blizz store purchases, consistent payments to WoW since 2006, BlizzCon virtual ticket last year, and signed up to the WoW annual pass as soon as it was announced at Blizzcon, and no invite here.

Pretty pissed to be honest.

Had a friend who got a beta key who's laptop wouldn't run it, so she gave me her account details, so at least I've had a go.
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locke89




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PostPosted: Mon, 19th Mar 2012 18:28    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
about the lag etc : (and this is purely speculating)

is it at all possible,that the beta has a debugger running, that constantly streams information to the server, thereby creating maybe lag and in the same time also creating poor(er) performance in general ?

Just an idea.


I read somewhere that this indeed is the case.
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