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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:28    Post subject:
Though ME3 is technically flawed and seemingly unfinished, it is enjoyable to catch up with these characters that I've gotten to know in the last 2 games.

At this point it really is about seeing this trilogy through to the end.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:29    Post subject:
Has the first DLC been cracked yet? From Ashes, I mean.

Reloaded released that DLC unlocker kind of crack, but does that include Ashes or do we have to download and get it cracked separately?
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:34    Post subject:
The DLC is included. RELOADED's unlocker makes available From Ashes and a few alternate outfits for squadmates. We're still waiting for proper unlocker that will unlock all the pre-order armor, outfits, weapons, etc..
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:37    Post subject:
murgo wrote:
this game is an insult pt2:



Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:38    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
JBeckman wrote:
I wouldn't go quite that far, Dragon Age 2 was much worse than this game but both suffer from various cuts and constraints, Bioware could probably do good work if given the chance but these ~1 to 2 year development cycles can't be that healthy for longer and more involving RPG games like they started out making under Black Isle or how it was, of course there's likely other concerns as well but I imagine the time and budget situation isn't very flexible.
(Which unfortunately isn't anything new these days.)

Rocksteady did Arkham City in two years. Sure, it's no RPG, but the story is way better than ME2 or DA2, and it is technically superior in every possible way. Sure, Rocksteady has an almost infinite amount of lore to leech from, but it's not like the characters in this game are that new or unique. Most are the same ones already introduced and fleshed out in the previous games.


Yeah thinking about it I forgot some important facts, Bioware already had a fully working and further modified Unreal Engine 3 base for example even if there's been some further updates since then (But ambient occlusion is still deactivated and DX10+ is not considered at all, MSAA works however but at a hefty performance cost when activated.) concept art, background info and all sorts of other story info had also been refined since Mass Effect 1 as well.

There's likely much more along with the various 3D assets and 2D texture re-use but my post was a bit shortsighted I admit.
(I'm sure they could have accomplished more if given the time but it wouldn't solve several of the core flaws and gameplay reduction since that was planned in advance or what I should best describe it as, as a somewhat bigger studio EA probably treats Bioware fairly well even if deadlines are strict and development of games kept at a rapid pace.)

That said a fully open space exploration and planet landing game set in the Mass Effect world (Even if the main story is very directed.) given a few more years of development would probably have been pretty epic too.
(Depending again on core aspects like game play and target audience / platform for example, such investments are pretty risky too so it's no wonder many publishers plays things a bit safe and well I could be wrong but if Old Republic does well they probably would consider the above as a ME MMO title instead, not that it has to be bad or anything.)

Anyway I'm a bit tired and probably just ranting or babbling stuff again, what do I know about this sort of thing anyway, will be interesting to see what Bioware does next but I guess it's focusing on ME3 post launch content and updates (DLC and patches) and then Dragon Age 3 along with further refinements to Old Republic, would be nice to see a new franchise though, maybe they have something or I don't know, Jade Empire 2?
(I'd say Baldurs Gate 3 or Icewind Dale 3 but I think the outcry would be pretty massive if they turned them into something strange.)


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:40    Post subject:
The textures in Mass Effect 3 is horrid. They didn't look this bad in the previous games did they? I can't remember. Haven't played ME1/ME2 with vanilla textures in years. Just played through them again with high-res textures pack.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:41    Post subject:
More locations but similar texture size again, either the textures are re-used more frequently (Which leads to what you said.) or they've added some and shrunk others to make room (Which also leads to what you say.) it's probably a mix of both though.

EDIT: How long does it take to "bake" these packed files in UE3 anyway, they did a high-res pack for Dragon Age 2 (After some pressure no doubt.) but how feasible is such a undertaking in UE3, large scale texmods (While a bit crude.) replacers are impossible due to the game engine for example.

(But surely they have the high-res original art source files somewhere which could be re-fitted to the PC platform more properly, somehow this has never really been done - for UE3 titles at least - though at times textures are better than the console versions from the beginning even without taking into account display resolution and filtering.)


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:44    Post subject:
I will say one thing positive though; it's certainly good to have a decent-sized Citadel back again, with plenty of places to explore, even if most of it is an illusion of freedom. Citadel in #2 was downright shocking.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:46    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I will say one thing positive though; it's certainly good to have a decent-sized Citadel back again, with plenty of places to explore, even if most of it is an illusion of freedom. Citadel in #2 was downright shocking.
Citadel is back? Me Gusta


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:47    Post subject:
There's more locations and diversity at least but they've sort of set every area in a separate level now instead of the larger Zakeera ward main area in ME2 (Albeit it did use some semi-silent streaming fairly often when wandering around there, still happens in ME3 too, that scan screen in the Normandy for example is also used for this purpose.) anyway I like the place even if the individual areas are a bit smaller on their own now.
(Better structured too.)

(Or the apparently dreaded streaming elevators in Mass Effect 1, that was certainly interesting but did at least feature some nice companion specific banter.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 21:48    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I will say one thing positive though; it's certainly good to have a decent-sized Citadel back again, with plenty of places to explore, even if most of it is an illusion of freedom. Citadel in #2 was downright shocking.
Citadel is back? Me Gusta


It's almost as big as #1, and significantly larger than #2. You can properly explore now with a lot of varied areas, rather than that one mess of Zakeera.


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Yeah, what JB said
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:01    Post subject:
ShadowB wrote:
Has the first DLC been cracked yet? From Ashes, I mean.

Reloaded released that DLC unlocker kind of crack, but does that include Ashes or do we have to download and get it cracked separately?


''From Ashes'' does work with the reloaded crack
''Alternate Appearance pack for squadmates'' does work with the reloaded crack

''Robot dog'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Weapons'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Hoodie for shepard'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Warfare Gear for shepard'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:01    Post subject:
Which is that superior end that everyone is talking about ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:04    Post subject:
Twinny wrote:
ShadowB wrote:
Has the first DLC been cracked yet? From Ashes, I mean.

Reloaded released that DLC unlocker kind of crack, but does that include Ashes or do we have to download and get it cracked separately?


''From Ashes'' does work with the reloaded crack
''Alternate Appearance pack for squadmates'' does work with the reloaded crack

''Robot dog'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Weapons'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Hoodie for shepard'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Warfare Gear for shepard'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack


N7 Warfare Gear is a separate pre-order DLC from some retailers. Assuming you mean the one with the N7 rifle and Defender armor.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:06    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Twinny wrote:
ShadowB wrote:
Has the first DLC been cracked yet? From Ashes, I mean.

Reloaded released that DLC unlocker kind of crack, but does that include Ashes or do we have to download and get it cracked separately?


''From Ashes'' does work with the reloaded crack
''Alternate Appearance pack for squadmates'' does work with the reloaded crack

''Robot dog'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Weapons'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Hoodie for shepard'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack
''N7 Warfare Gear for shepard'' does not work with the reloaded crack, while the dlc is the same as alternate appearance pack


N7 Warfare Gear is a separate pre-order DLC from some retailers. Assuming you mean the one with the N7 rifle and Defender armor.


Actually someone who paid for it has all the DLC's and has only 2 folders (the one we have). Those DLC's are all included already and needs some kind of unlocker.

Alternate appearance pack is working with the crack, why does that dog and those n7 weapons does not work ??? DLC file is the same Rolling Eyes



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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:08    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
Which is that superior end that everyone is talking about ?


A higher war asset score means you'll do better in the Reaper war since you have more, well, assets, this boils down to various things and choices I've only read about since I've not yet completed the game but that's the basis of it.

EDIT: By default the rating is divided by 50% until you complete MP co-op missions which raises the "system readiness" of the different areas of the galaxy and thus affects the overall computed asset score.
(But you can still do OK without it though it's not as easy.)


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:10    Post subject:
The N7 Weapons and N7 Warfare Gear are two separate DLCs is what I said. You do not get the N7 Warfare Gear from the CE.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:10    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
prudislav wrote:
Which is that superior end that everyone is talking about ?


A higher war asset score means you'll do better in the Reaper war since you have more, well, assets, this boils down to various things and choices I've only read about since I've not yet completed the game but that's the basis of it.

so i will see when i finish it Wink (i am quite completionist so maybe i will get to that ending)
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:12    Post subject:
But it's in the game files along with the other pre-order weapons like the one from Alienware, there is no separate download or installation for them.
(Other than that 55 MB CE DLC for the different outfits.)

EDIT: In short and crudely explained the authentication bypass let's you use the DLC folder content but it does not work as a fully authorized account, that could be trickier now since it goes via Origin directly but as said it reads the DLC folder (In some way at least.) so any future content DLC will at least be functional unless something is changed in the game engine via a update, of course any patch added will need that address re-applied to a patched value. Smile
(Unsure if the game considers you in offline mode or how it works, I wouldn't know.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:18    Post subject:
Anderson told me in ME2 that he was "to old for this shit" when asking him to join me on Normandy, but now he has stepped down as counselor and gone back to the action again? What gives?


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:18    Post subject:
Stonga wrote:
The textures in Mass Effect 3 is horrid. They didn't look this bad in the previous games did they? I can't remember. Haven't played ME1/ME2 with vanilla textures in years. Just played through them again with high-res textures pack.

no man, you're wrong. I know that "appreciation" is often "subjective", but this ME3 has excellent visuals (way better than gameplay by the way). Maybe you should try to use the video settings tool in the ME3 menu, just give it a try. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:19    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:24    Post subject:
Just started playing this myself... can't say it's all that bad gameplay-wise (the combat I mean). I am just going through what I assume are the prologue missions, so there isn't much I can say about the game in general. It plays better than ME2 did for me, once I got more or less used to the awkward cover control scheme.

It seems way too easy with an imported character though (perhaps that is the reason the combat feels more open now). Playing on Hardcore as an Infiltrator I can pretty much run around freely on the battlefield flanking, cloaking and stabbing people in the back. It was much harder to do in the demo.

Graphically speaking, the game actually looks surprisingly good (had lower expectations after the demo), but definitely needs AA. I am playing with forced 4xSSAA and it looks just amazing. It almost made me cringe when I disabled it for testing however. Can't say how post AA or FXAA injectors compare, but anyone with a decent GPU needs to put it to good use and force SSAA at least at 2X and forget about ingame AA - the difference is huge.
Plenty has been said about the crappy character animations... nothing to add to that. The facial animations do look more alive now though, and a definite improvement if you can overlook the slightly "glowy" faces at times (AC:R had the same thing... it just looks weird to me).
Not being to holster the weapon is just bad for many reasons, but at least there is a decent FOV fix available.

Will have to play more to see how much of the original Mass Effect there is left in the game, but at least the initial impression is not as hopelessly awful as I expected it to be.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:24    Post subject:
Sertorius wrote:
Stonga wrote:
The textures in Mass Effect 3 is horrid. They didn't look this bad in the previous games did they? I can't remember. Haven't played ME1/ME2 with vanilla textures in years. Just played through them again with high-res textures pack.

no man, you're wrong. I know that "appreciation" is often "subjective", but this ME3 has excellent visuals (way better than gameplay by the way). Maybe you should try to use the video settings tool in the ME3 menu, just give it a try. Smile


Lol what? Have you not seen "this game is an insult pt2" Laughing



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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:28    Post subject:
Why not up the difficulty to insanity if it feels too easy?
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:29    Post subject:
Sertorius wrote:

no man, you're wrong. I know that "appreciation" is often "subjective", but this ME3 has excellent visuals (way better than gameplay by the way). Maybe you should try to use the video settings tool in the ME3 menu, just give it a try. Smile


No. Everything outside of the main character models is pretty low-res, and even some of their gear looks pretty bad.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:35    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
Sertorius wrote:
Stonga wrote:
The textures in Mass Effect 3 is horrid. They didn't look this bad in the previous games did they? I can't remember. Haven't played ME1/ME2 with vanilla textures in years. Just played through them again with high-res textures pack.

no man, you're wrong. I know that "appreciation" is often "subjective", but this ME3 has excellent visuals (way better than gameplay by the way). Maybe you should try to use the video settings tool in the ME3 menu, just give it a try. Smile


Lol what? Have you not seen "this game is an insult pt2" Laughing


the first pic i posted is even worse.. how can anyone call this excellent visuals?

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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:38    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Why not up the difficulty to insanity if it feels too easy?

I guess I want to play a bit more before I decide if I need to up the difficulty. Perhaps the first encounters are supposed to be easy Smile

I just remember how hard it was in the demo for me, so I am a bit surprised by the difference.
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:52    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Why not up the difficulty to insanity if it feels too easy?

I am playing on insanity with an imported infiltrator and it's easier than ME2 and quite easy in general. The combat does feel better, but it's really annoying when you get killed by one of those overpowered grenades that the spammers throw at you. It's really retarded... one of your companions is hardly affected by a nearby grenade and you can get killed by it even if you're far from it. Also, they often see me while I'm cloaked. The most retarded thing is when they shoot me through walls while I'm being cloaked. Really?!


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 22:59    Post subject:
Without spoilering, is this a squad member or npc? (Pic taken from the Launch trailer)
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