George A. Romero's Land of the Dead
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toeffy
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 23:10    Post subject:
i am looking forward to this...i liked all the previous ones.

i hope it won't be to action packed...i'd rather want suspense...


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005 00:37    Post subject:
7.9/10 after 129votes...
this could be good Smile
and it even has a hottie in it Twisted Evil


love all of romeros older stuff, especially the zombie movies.
his last few flicks sucked however...
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005 00:46    Post subject:
Can't wait too see this Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005 03:34    Post subject:
Everyone is bitching about the "intelligent" zombies. Apparently, they haven't seen the first three films. If so, they certainly didn't understand them, since this is a central theme in Romero's plot. And, yes, this film focuses heavily on that. The zombies are starting to become more "human" based on their past experiences. Why is that so far-fetched?
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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005 03:59    Post subject:
they're brain-dead?

Zombies are driven by their hunger. They don't stop until their hunger has vanished Rolling Eyes if they start thinking then they'll realize they have no need to hunt down humans and will go to a nearest subway and buy them selves a nice Italian bmt with all the fixin's

NOW YOU SEE WHY SMART ZOMBIES PLOT WON'T WORK!

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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005 16:17    Post subject:
weird0 wrote:
7.9/10 after 129votes...
this could be good Smile
and it even has a hottie in it Twisted Evil


love all of romeros older stuff, especially the zombie movies.
his last few flicks sucked however...


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PostPosted: Wed, 22nd Jun 2005 19:37    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
they're brain-dead?

Zombies are driven by their hunger. They don't stop until their hunger has vanished Rolling Eyes if they start thinking then they'll realize they have no need to hunt down humans and will go to a nearest subway and buy them selves a nice Italian bmt with all the fixin's

NOW YOU SEE WHY SMART ZOMBIES PLOT WON'T WORK!

Smart zombies... come on! Then they aren't zombies anymore! they're... cannibals


let the man who created them as we know them today do it his way Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 03:29    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
they're brain-dead?

Zombies are driven by their hunger. They don't stop until their hunger has vanished Rolling Eyes if they start thinking then they'll realize they have no need to hunt down humans and will go to a nearest subway and buy them selves a nice Italian bmt with all the fixin's

NOW YOU SEE WHY SMART ZOMBIES PLOT WON'T WORK!

Smart zombies... come on! Then they aren't zombies anymore! they're... cannibals


Exactly what I said earlier.

Why not go attack some cows or something if they're that intelligent, they provide far more meat and less of a fight.

They need to be so driven that they don't care what they eat, they just focus on the nearest food source. Intelligence doesn't fit with that.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 09:00    Post subject:
Just let George Romero do what he wants to do. He created zombies, you didn't. Plus like I said before the movie isn't even out yet.

Plus I always thought it was the human flesh and stuff they were after not just meat. I watched Day of the Dead a week or so ago so I'm trying to remember.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 15:43    Post subject:
Their hunger thirsts for food... only thing they see is 'human flesh' therefore they hunt down human flesh. If there were cows, as AM said, it would be natural that a meat-craving zombie would eat a cow.

And I don't care that Romero created zombies. You don't just create a mindless killing machine that kills without a purpose and give it a brain. It just doesn't work. Just because he created the zombie doesn't mean he has the right to just change it.

For 20 years people thought of zombies as if they were brain-dead cannibals... and that's what made them scary; knowing that nothing would stop them to get to you, nothing would prevent them because, obviously, they don't know any better.

Now if they have a brain where is the sense of fear? The door is locked Shocked the zombie wont just crash into it and eventually break down, no, he'll try to open it… that’s fucking gay!

Man... giving them personality also is fucked up no matter how you justify the creator. Zombies were scary because they were lifeless. There’s nothing scarier about seeing a lifeless man tear a pregnant woman apart without showing some form of emotion. He won't even struggle. Even if his muscles tear he won't care because he doesn't feel pain.


Romero is butchering his own children. Heck… he created zombies? I can name you a few cannibal movies before his zombie time and guess what… they, now, are zombies.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:16    Post subject:
Romero always had in mind to give the zombies personalities and intelligence see Trivias and behind the scene stuff on IMDB and all the extras on the dvd packages.

Also see the book which Night of The Living dead was inspired from Wink

So like it or go see 28 days later or Resident Evil Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:21    Post subject:
hahe wrote:
Just let George Romero do what he wants to do. He created zombies,


no he didnt. He just accomplished to produce an epic zombie saga, while the initial idea for zombies was not his...

this is afaik the first zombie movie, while there where others that used the "living dead" voodoo cult theme before afaik (but i m not sure, have to ask my zombologist): http://imdb.com/title/tt0023694/
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:22    Post subject:
The 'zombies' in 28 days later were scarier because they were fuelled by hatred not only hunger. So their reactions made sense.

When a brain-dead zombie, who is only fuelled by hunger, just starts acting like a normal person; communicating, talking, making sense then it's not a horror movie anymore it’s just a gore-fest.

I just watched the unrated trailer and oh my god. It doesn’t even look scary. It looks much like resident evil. Zombie pops-up and poof it’s scary. The shots do look astonishing and the mood does give you the Goosebumps, but the zombies aren’t what they used to be. Maybe the movie will be good… maybe smart zombies will make decent adversaries… who knows? But still the idea itself seems rather idiotic.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:29    Post subject:
Injurious have you seen the old "dead" series? Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:31    Post subject:
hehehehe, while searching the web i found this funny write up on zombi-movie-history:
http://www.abc.net.au/thingo/txt/s1123992.htm

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Zombie films jump so nimbly from action to comedy to romance to gore-splatter apocalypse that they're sure to be with us for a while yet. And they're totally relevant for today's audience, because a zombie's all-meat diet is extremely low-carb.


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:35    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
Injurious have you seen the old "dead" series? Razz


they were corny Razz yeah i saw them Very Happy Laughing

But long ago Razz I might rent em today and watch them after my comm-tech exam Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:57    Post subject:
care to post a link to that dead series? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 17:59    Post subject:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0001681/

Very Happy Rolling Eyes

I think the only one I liked, though not sure, was http://imdb.com/title/tt0063350/ Very Happy I'll rent some of them today if i find them if not... they're 9.99 at hmv


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 18:13    Post subject:
Well I have to say that I disliked the Original "Dawn" Though the "Night" and "Day" methink is a masterpiece!

But the thing is you can clearly see how Romero is going with his zombies they are getting smarter for each film!

btw I bought this "Dead" Package

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006JI27/qid=1119543142/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl/026-9198509-4854052


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 18:21    Post subject:
cool... Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 18:52    Post subject:
Im loving it Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 19:19    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
Im loving it Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 20:11    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
hahe wrote:
Just let George Romero do what he wants to do. He created zombies,


no he didnt. He just accomplished to produce an epic zombie saga, while the initial idea for zombies was not his...


Fine then. It's his MOVIE so let him do what he wants to do.
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PostPosted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2005 20:21    Post subject:
Well Luzifer he made them eat us Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jun 2005 19:01    Post subject:
Yeah zombies that run after you are also scarier now, like the zombies in '28 days later' and the 'Dawn of the dead' remake.

They were made into too much of a joke in the original dawn of the dead I think, so the remake was a nice addition to the series.


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jun 2005 20:11    Post subject:
I think the theory that they will get us sooner or later no matter what their speed are is much scarier but thats just me Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 24th Jun 2005 21:58    Post subject:
Yeah I'll take the slower zombies than the new "hip" faster zombies.
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Yeah I'll take the slower zombies than the new "hip" faster zombies.


Did you see the original 'dawn of the dead'?

Well they were a farce in that, even romero knew it, so i'm sure thats one of the reasons he's going with fully mobile zombies in his latest.

It doesn't fit with reality for these slow zombies to be capable of anything approaching world domination, especially in america, where every other person has a gun. They would be mown down like cannon fodder. The only time they are possibly scary is when you're under siege by them in an enclosed space, but thats been done to death. There are only so many small country houses one can get trapped in before it gets old.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jun 2005 05:56    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
hahe wrote:
Yeah I'll take the slower zombies than the new "hip" faster zombies.


Did you see the original 'dawn of the dead'?

Well they were a farce in that, even romero knew it, so i'm sure thats one of the reasons he's going with fully mobile zombies in his latest.

It doesn't fit with reality for these slow zombies to be capable of anything approaching world domination, especially in america, where every other person has a gun. They would be mown down like cannon fodder. The only time they are possibly scary is when you're under siege by them in an enclosed space, but thats been done to death. There are only so many small country houses one can get trapped in before it gets old.


Actually in Land of the Dead they are the usual slow zombies. They're not the running zombies in like in the Dawn of the Dead remake. And Romero always said that he likes slow zombies better than fast zombies and would never use fast zombies.

And yes I've seen the original Dawn of the Dead. I have Dawn of the Dead, Night of the Living Dead, and Day of the Dead.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Jun 2005 06:00    Post subject:
hahe wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
hahe wrote:
Yeah I'll take the slower zombies than the new "hip" faster zombies.


Did you see the original 'dawn of the dead'?

Well they were a farce in that, even romero knew it, so i'm sure thats one of the reasons he's going with fully mobile zombies in his latest.

It doesn't fit with reality for these slow zombies to be capable of anything approaching world domination, especially in america, where every other person has a gun. They would be mown down like cannon fodder. The only time they are possibly scary is when you're under siege by them in an enclosed space, but thats been done to death. There are only so many small country houses one can get trapped in before it gets old.


Actually in Land of the Dead they are the usual slow zombies. They're not the running zombies in like in the Dawn of the Dead remake. And Romero always said that he likes slow zombies better than fast zombies and would never use fast zombies.


And giving them steyer aug's is better then having them being able to run? Yeah right.

It's going to be fucking ridiculous giving them the intelligence to use firearms, but not to use their own legs.


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