Addiction killed my daughter and raped my husband!
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Phluxed
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2005 21:20    Post subject:
MM's aren't evil. Its people who are evil. If you have an addictive personality, you should understand that and compensate by not allowing you to play very long.


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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2005 21:28    Post subject:
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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2005 21:41    Post subject:
this has nothing to do with the game really... the kids death could of happened at any time regardless of what the parents were doing at the time... they could of went out to do some grocery shopping or gone to work and then came home to find out their daughter has been killed
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Jesus Juice




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2005 21:55    Post subject:
Tkmaster5121 wrote:
this has nothing to do with the game really... the kids death could of happened at any time regardless of what the parents were doing at the time... they could of went out to do some grocery shopping or gone to work and then came home to find out their daughter has been killed


having a child requires responsibility. If neither of them can watch a child then they shouldn't have had one. Nobody should leave a 4 month old at home alone.


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fisk




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2005 21:55    Post subject:
Children suck anyway... or at least, that's what the catholics keep telling me.


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snoop1050
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PostPosted: Mon, 20th Jun 2005 22:06    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
Children suck anyway... or at least, that's what the catholics keep telling me.

Laughing you have a sick mind
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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 01:29    Post subject:
whatever helps with population control, im all for it. long live mmorgs!


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 01:43    Post subject:
Kids are so annoying, especially the smartass 12-16 year olds.

I've enjoyed battering a few 16 year olds in my time.


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Zeljo




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 01:46    Post subject:
one question tho: why does it say in the topic title "...and raped my husband"?
lol Very Happy
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gutyreader




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 02:13    Post subject:
Hey, I never blamed Molson or Budweiser for the existance of alcoolics...
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Injurious




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 02:21    Post subject:
Zeljo wrote:
one question tho: why does it say in the topic title "...and raped my husband"?
lol Very Happy


I was going to put "raped my wife" but... you know... nobody wants to read about raped women Very Happy
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Tkmaster5121




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PostPosted: Tue, 21st Jun 2005 04:23    Post subject:
Jesus Juice wrote:
Tkmaster5121 wrote:
this has nothing to do with the game really... the kids death could of happened at any time regardless of what the parents were doing at the time... they could of went out to do some grocery shopping or gone to work and then came home to find out their daughter has been killed


having a child requires responsibility. If neither of them can watch a child then they shouldn't have had one. Nobody should leave a 4 month old at home alone.


yes thasts true but i just said trhat childs death really had nothing to do with playing a game at a pc cafe... they could of been away doing other things and still came home to a dead kid
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 06:05    Post subject: Weehuu
Sooooooooo... how did WoW rape my husband?


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 07:55    Post subject:
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EverQuest players often joke about the addictive nature of the game -- often referring to it as "EverCrack" -- but for 21-year-old Shawn Woolley the game became deadly serious, and his mother is preparing to sue Sony Online Entertainment over his suicide.

The Wisconsin man fatally shot himself on Thanksgiving morning last year, and his mother, Elizabeth Woolley, had the misfortune of finding him. He was sitting at his computer in his apartment, and the place was strewn with notes related to the game. But none of them offered any clues as to what drove him to such an end.

When Elizabeth tried to find out what happened in the game to drive her son over the edge, Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) balked, she said, citing privacy concerns for other players. Because EverQuest figures so prominently in the last days of her son's life, Elizabeth said she plans to sue the company to find out what role it may have played. She also wants to warn players of its potential for addiction.

"One of the things I personally would like is for them to look into his account," Woolley said. "He quit his job the week before he did this and played (the game) the whole week, and I want to see if there was something that made him do this because he didn't have any major crises in his life."

Shawn Woolley did have some physical problems. He was prone to epileptic seizures; and if he played the game too much, he could and often did have seizures. The suicide appears to have been planned, though. Elizabeth said he bought the gun a week before Thanksgiving. She said she had no knowledge of the purchase beforehand and didn't notice anything odd in his behavior during that week.

That, according to Dr. J. Michael Faragher, dean of the School of Professional Studies at the Metropolitan State College of Denver and co-director of the Center for Addiction Studies, shows planning, not an impulsive act. "You'd be hard pressed to say it was an impulsive act when there was some planning going into purchasing the gun," he said.

He doesn't believe Shawn's seizures and epilepsy would have had anything to do with the suicide. "I couldn't say there's a cause and effect (for suicide) based on seizures," he said.

However, Faragher doesn't think there's much of a case to be made against SOE for responsibility. "If it wasn't this (EverQuest), it would have been something else," Faragher said. "I don't see a culpability as much as I see a lack of feelings of Sony's social responsibility. I don't think this kid would have played any less if Sony had posted a warning."

Woolley hasn't yet filed suit but has hired Jack Thompson, a colorful Miami attorney and frequent critic of the entertainment industry to represent her. Thompson was on vacation and unavailable for comment, and SOE declined to comment on the impending suit.

Anything that has the potential to generate significant changes in mood, effect or feeling is potentially addictive to someone, said Faragher, and EverQuest, a game with no end -- unlike your typical video game -- is no exception. He defines addiction as having three qualities: It must by some reasonable definition be harmful, the person's behavior is apparently out of control, and most important, the addict expects the behavior will lead to feelings that are preferred to those felt before indulging in the activity.

Shawn got involved in the game in 2000 and by 2001 it had consumed his life, Elizabeth said. He'd quit his job and played almost non-stop, eventually being evicted from his apartment and moving in with his mother, before leaving her home and then being put in a group home for addictive behavior.

He was diagnosed with depression and a schizoid personality disorder and put on medication. Residence in the group home was voluntary, however, and he left. He then rented his own apartment, over his mother's objections, where he resumed non-stop playing.

His mother, meanwhile, was dismayed by the lack of available resources directly related to online addiction. "There's no programs for the family sitting on the sideline, racking their brains, trying to figure out how to get their kids off the computer," she said. "I think a treatment program needs to be set up for this that's just as accessible as Alcoholics Anonymous, because I didn't have anywhere to go for help."

Sony, meanwhile, has not helped at all, she said. Elizabeth has no idea on which of the 43 EverQuest servers her son played, who his friends were, or even how to get into his account.

In addition to wanting to know what drove her son over the edge, Elizabeth Woolley wants SOE to provide something for people who are addicted to its game.

"It might be an act of kindness to humankind," she said. "If they are making all this money off of well-adjusted people, then we can help people who are not so well-adjusted."

Faragher agrees with her, pointing out that casinos have finally taken some responsibility for gambling addiction by offering addictive players access to help lines.

"I believe any industry that profits from the behavior of people should be willing to contribute something to the people who end up suffering," Faragher said. "They don't really owe it as much as I believe it's an ethical thing to do."


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Injurious




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 08:25    Post subject: Re: Weehuu
nikkern wrote:
Sooooooooo... how did WoW rape my husband?


Wouldn't you feel raped if you spread your seed just to find it dead-stiff on the ground, with a piece of linen fabric sticking out of its throat, after an exhausting, yet exciting, session of world of warcraft? Then again… if fucking is your forte the hell you care… right? You can just go on and on and on like a set of rabid horny rabbits! Fuck till the sun sets or rises depending what you’re into and then wait and wait and wait and while you wait you get fired, the rent is due and then the missus is in the hospital clutching onto the next best thing she could find, your brother, who “accidentally” is the real father of “your” child.

And as you pace to that hospital, as fast as you possibly can while juggling two physically exhausting jobs, you make it on time not to see that twinkle you had in your eye, the same twinkle the missus fell in love it, in your son being held by your wife but, you make it on time to see it in your brothers arms and he tells you something you’d never, not in a million years, would want to know…

“Why don’t they wear condoms when they cheat on you?”
Crying or Very sad

WoW clouds judgment in people!
Stop wow!
Stop the madness!

There are too many gamers out there and not enough alcoholics Sad I can't relate to people at work anymore. Everyone's playing this and that. FUCK! I want some friends, damn it!

Ps.
Jenni, Wow... Sad Everquest is worse than wow. I've read, long ago, that this kid killed him self cause his character died. Then I read, long ago, that a couple that met on everquest got married in real life.

Good things come out when bad things come in. Then again... who ever marries their videogame sweetheart must be a real nerd Laughing


PPS.
Sorry for the grammar/spelling mistakes. I… have no legitimate excuse… just had a lot of fun today =D


-WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Very Happy Laughing Shocked


We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 10:59    Post subject:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
It's easy enough to make another baby. This one was only 4 months old, so they didn't get much used to it.


Mr. baggins our racist friend again.
Why not post on the orange site ?


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tobycoaster
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 11:06    Post subject:
Injurious wrote:
babysitters don't give you level ups!
babysitters don't make you popular online!
babysitters don't make your epenis grow!

next time you think of hiring a babysitter... think what wow can do for you!



You obvioulsy aint seen my babysitter Very Happy


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The Rat
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 11:19    Post subject:
For the people that are wagging fingers at Korea I have heard a fair amount of stories on the news of Americans and Canadians leaving their kids at home and going out to a bar or to a friend's place.

Bad parents are everywhere.

BTW, shouldn't this thread be in another part of the forums (such as World Headlines) Razz


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You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 11:37    Post subject:
Your first child is always the best, it get's all the goodness and genius and any others which follow are given the scraps and neurosis's. This is a scientifically proven fact, probably.

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babysitters don't make your penis grow!

Depends.


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Your first child is always the best, it get's all the goodness and genius and any others which follow are given the scraps and neurosis's. This is a scientifically proven fact, probably.


Pffft. Our first child took after me and got all my faults. Our second child took after my wife and even though he is only 3 we already we can tell that he will be a much happier kid and will be more successful in life.

Genes are a bitch. I feel sorry for my first born with my genes.


kirkblitz wrote:
You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 15:53    Post subject:
Pizda2 wrote:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
It's easy enough to make another baby. This one was only 4 months old, so they didn't get much used to it.


As harsh as it sounds, It's true.

Shoulda have been a relief to them to, babies are boring and tiring !
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Injurious




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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 18:25    Post subject:
tobycoaster wrote:
You obvioulsy aint seen my babysitter Very Happy
And how old are you?

I had three babysitters in my lifetime and none of them were these hot American broads who dress in tight clothing exposing their succulent, yet firm, nipples, with long wavy hair, soft to the touch, that's smells like a forest in spring time, with a deep blue eyes that just seemed to follow you everywhere you went and with a figure so curvaceous that you'd just want to play race-car on her hips all night long.
Rolling Eyes

I'm sure everyone had a babysitter that made them stay up all night in the bathroom doing the nasty. But come on. When you're a kid anything will do. A picture from a nudie magazine, sound (watching ppv channels that scramble the video but not audio) or illustrative dictionaries.

Babysitters can give you an erection, yes, but it doesn't make your god damn dick grow. If involuntary erections made certain things "grow" I’d be out on the town every night lookin' for a quick fuck instead of wasting my time lookin' for mrs. smith right. Wink


We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Jul 2005 19:03    Post subject:
of the babysitter.

Oh yeah right...no babysitter.
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