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They did say that Demo had this 2GB limit and that they made it just for (Low?) Quality to be like "max" quality, so i guess final product will be much better in Graphics, AND i hope with animations.. (Its not like i notices it that much, but still)
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 18:28 Post subject: |
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| K0tY wrote: | | They did say that Demo had this 2GB limit and that they made it just for (Low?) Quality to be like "max" quality, so i guess final product will be much better in Graphics, AND i hope with animations.. (Its not like i notices it that much, but still) |
Yes that's correct. I believe due to some LIVE limitations demo was kept ~2GB, so they probably didn't bother making it separately for the PC. So thats why I think the final game will have better textures/animations.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 18:29 Post subject: |
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| H4wkeye wrote: | I think that the final version on the PC will be much better graphics and animation wise. Maybe they'll even chuck out a high res patch. One can hope  |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 18:31 Post subject: |
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Since when demo limitations cause developers to create retardedly bad animations instead of the ones found in the final version?
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 18:36 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Since when demo limitations cause developers to create retardedly bad animations instead of the ones found in the final version? |
Since PS360. 
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:09 Post subject: |
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What I don't understand is why they touched the animations at all from previous games. Running animations were just fine in ME2. So what was the point of this shit?
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:23 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | What I don't understand is why they touched the animations at all from previous games. Running animations were just fine in ME2. So what was the point of this shit? |
Logic can't be applied to Bioware and their "if it ain't broke, break it" game design choices  |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:26 Post subject: |
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But going from Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2 I can understand. Console derpas won. But here there is no win. In fact, it will probably bother console derpas more than PC gamers (if the game was really good and that was its only flaw). So what happened? 
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:30 Post subject: |
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EA happened.
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:33 Post subject: |
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| yuri999 wrote: | | EA happened. |
So EA told them "Fuck up the animations just because!" ?  |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:40 Post subject: |
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Wait, you can't holster your weapon. at all?  I will not even bother pirating this shit.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:41 Post subject: |
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http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9234315/2#9241546
BioWere, eh? Something that worked just fine in the first two games is now removed because... memory limitations..? really? It's ok though, they'll reevaluate the game a few weeks after launch and suddenly find they can put holstering back in! For a mere €4.99/800MSP of course!
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:44 Post subject: |
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EA giving very little time for development and not to mention the demand of MP. If BW will reuse older animation people will call them out on it (like they did for DA2).
DA:O was in development for around 5 years and it shows. DA2 for less than 2 and look at the result.
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:44 Post subject: |
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| yuri999 wrote: | | If BW will reuse older animation people will call them out on it (like they did for DA2). |
Something tells me people wouldn't be annoyed if the HOLSTER/UNHOLSTER animation was the same as the first two games, come on dude.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:46 Post subject: |
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 wrote: | | Why would people want to holster their weapons? |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:46 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | yuri999 wrote: | | If BW will reuse older animation people will call them out on it (like they did for DA2). |
Something tells me people wouldn't be annoyed if the HOLSTER/UNHOLSTER animation was the same as the first two games, come on dude. |
Eh I was talking about the cringe-worthy running animation. 
1 and 2 are still amazing. |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:47 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | But going from Dragon Age 1 to Dragon Age 2 I can understand. Console derpas won. But here there is no win. In fact, it will probably bother console derpas more than PC gamers (if the game was really good and that was its only flaw). So what happened? |
I googled "Mass Effect animator" and look what I got:
http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/brad-kinley/8/1/313
Seems like he left before finishing ME3 |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:48 Post subject: |
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As i understand it the holster thing was for the Demo version... Not for the fullgame version.
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:52 Post subject: |
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| Dm242 wrote: | | As i understand it the holster thing was for the Demo version... Not for the fullgame version. |
No
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9234315/24
| Quote: | It's a runtime memory cost, not a disk space issue. You need those anims for the non-combat areas... so they're going to be on disk regardless.
In order to support exploration in the combat areas, you'd need to have all the anims loaded in memory... so that would be things like the 8-way walks, runs, incline anims, idles, idle twitches, male/female variant overrides, eye noise... etc.
All in all (iirc) it came out to around 2-4MB, which is relatively significant. Also, as you've guessed, yes - I'm referring to the main game (as well as the demo). |
It freed 2-4MB |
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| Posted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:58 Post subject: |
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And people keep asking if there will be a patch for the PC version.
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