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| De_TURK wrote: | | OMG. Just doing some tutorials, this is my kind of game. Played Bandit Kings of Ancient China to death when I was a kid. |
Oh my.
So this is for me too.
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zmed
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 03:35 Post subject: |
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Started a relatively serious game. Playing as the Duke of Munster, ruler of a small province in southern Ireland. Since the country is fragmented and there is no king, all duchies are independent nations. So I set out to unite the island. So far I have managed to conquer the entire Duchy of Munster, as well as three other neighboring provinces.
The stupid pope declared a crusade against a nation in the middle of the Spanish peninsula and as a good little Xtian, I sent 600 of my men to die by the hands of a 2000 men large merc army (the initial siege was rather successful, until the main army showed up). Someone else managed to do the job, but still...  Was not good for my main efforts to unite the country.
Now I need to find a better way to find cassus bellis against the rest of Ireland, my diplomacy adviser is rather ineffective in fabricating claims. Maybe I'll try to get the pope to excommunicate some of those poor sods.
Anyways, great game so far. I like that every character has their own motivation. At one time my 2nd wife was trying to kill my heir. To keep my bloodline secure, instead of imprisoning her, I had to talk her out of it. 
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 09:23 Post subject: |
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release date is the 14th so early release, weird for an indie game, is this a preview copy? game version says 1.0 YRRE. YRRE is a bit of a weird addon.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 10:54 Post subject: |
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It's not indie, it's developed and published by Paradox.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:14 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: | | It's not indie, it's developed and published by Paradox. |
Which means Paradox are independent.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 11:45 Post subject: |
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| friketje wrote: | | release date is the 14th so early release, weird for an indie game, is this a preview copy? game version says 1.0 YRRE. YRRE is a bit of a weird addon. |
YRRE is not a name, it's a checksum of the game files to prevent playing multiplayer with someone who altered the game files.
@zmed: you can ask the pope for an invasion if you have enough piety.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 12:29 Post subject: |
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| Overlord123 wrote: | | @zmed: you can ask the pope for an invasion if you have enough piety. |
Tried to excommunicate some guys, but it just wasn't possible (every prerequisite was fulfilled, simply the pope was uncooperative in the matter). Managed to lay claim to some provinces that happened to be part of the duchies I usurped, conquering another 3 provinces.
Sadly, I have to start all over again.
I fucked up my conquest to become the king of Ireland, I accidentally changed the succession laws to elective, didn't notice and now after my second ruler died, one of the bishops from a church settlement became the new Duke, who wasn't in my lineage. And since I changed the laws under this ruler, I don't have an old enough save to correct this fatal mistake. But at least I managed to get 1000 score and overtake the lowest dynasty on the top-list. 
I wonder if I can appoint barons, not just land holders...
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 13:48 Post subject: |
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Ok, so how do you get Alexios Komnenus to become the Emperor? Is switching to Elective the only way to go? Seems very constraining
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 14:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Feb 2012 23:01 Post subject: |
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Ok, I'm confused. Did the same duchy again, first Duke dies, eldest son inherits all, and now the succession changes to elective. It seems I did chose primogeniture the first time after all.
Is this some kind of thing about independent duchies, that the succession laws can change with the new ruler? I was very close to create a new Ireland but lacked the piety for it. And since the new duke was a total shithead that everyone hated (tyrannical, slothful, cynical, every negative trait you can think of was on this guy), it was pretty much impossible to amass enough piety to form the kingdom, and I had my doubts about any of my relatives succeeding me.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 00:46 Post subject: |
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i cant develop in this game, i always get overwhelmed, how do you guys build up the economy and a reasonable army?
i tried playing with a few of these independent in ireland and after a few years im gone . . .
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 08:45 Post subject: |
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| Sexie wrote: | i cant develop in this game, i always get overwhelmed, how do you guys build up the economy and a reasonable army?
i tried playing with a few of these independent in ireland and after a few years im gone . . . |
A bit cheating, but easy way to get started is to play Leon in spain, kill the king of castille/galicia so you inherit that kingdom (the cheating part reloading that is sometimes needed). Then attack all the muslims in spain, the plus side of a combined spainish realm is that you're overpowerd in spain and other powers leave spain alone so this is a good learning game,
Also, this is not a game about economy but building a nobel family. The game is very forgiving and does not need a whole lot of long term planning to survive, just play and learn the game.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 09:22 Post subject: |
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Does this have UI scale as an option in menu?
Q6600 OC 3.0ghz, MSI R9 280x Gaming Edition, 7gb ram, Asus P5KC
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 13:18 Post subject: |
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| fearwhatnow wrote: | | Does this have UI scale as an option in menu? |
No.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 13:56 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: | | Ok, I'm confused. Did the same duchy again, first Duke dies, eldest son inherits all, and now the succession changes to elective. It seems I did chose primogeniture the first time after all. |
It seems the thing was the case of what kind of title was held by the heir before succeeding. Since I'm playing a duke, city-based counties are not suitable, only castle based ones. I can still have the title for that place, but I get a 25% tax penalty. So I gave the one I had to my son, who became the local lord-mayor. But since that title is elective, after the death of the duke, he brought the city's succession laws with him.
Now I gave the city to a kinsman and gave a regular castle based county to my son, and lo and behold, succession laws stayed the same. I better watch this before I can form the Kingdom of Ireland.
Also, any tricks to get quick cassus bellis as an independent duke? That 500 piety for requesting a papal invasion is kinda impossible for small lords like myself, excommunication never seem to be possible and my chancellor is slow as hell with that yearly 10% chance to fabricate claims.
Sure, once I get 50% of the island I can form the kingdom (the necessary 200 piety is still rather steep for me) and get instant clams on the rest of the counties, but still.
Anyways, things seem to work out ok-ish on this latest try. Have the correct laws and the second ruler is not a total shithead. The first heir who usually came after me was somehow killed and my second son became the new heir, who is at least a decent guy with relatively few enemies (his mother had to become regent for 2 years since he was under age).
Love the game so far. A 100% sure buy for me as soon as I get enough money. All the complexity, intrigue, political maneuvering...just love it.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 15:31 Post subject: |
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Oh well, I bought it on Steam.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 16:39 Post subject: |
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Tried the leon cheat, but the game just got overwhelming. But I learned quite a few things. Decided to start as connacht next and this is great fun. And my king is an absolute fertile sex beast, his wife died at the age of 46 or something. He remarried, and the age of 60 babies started popping up. He has produced 5 kids after the age of 60!!!!!!!!! 4 boys and 1 girl. He has been through sickness, paranoia and he is still going strong. His current wife suffers from possession and I can now imprison her without penalties, but no way, I WANT MOAR KIDS!
68 and still going strong, hopefully.
Seriously this is hilarious.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 19:37 Post subject: |
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i took capua ( go spartacus? ) managed to conquer half of sicily ( lower part of italy ) but never could become sicily king, never hatch any plot or anything of sorts
every time my ruler died my kingdom would split , and i have to wage new wards to reclaim them, i couldnt rly make vassals , if i gave property they just went independent.. one i got from war, hated me and got me excommunicated ..
just now i declared second war to regain 2 regions i lost due the fact that inheritance is bogus crap.. especially when my brother own those regions they somehow goes to sicily king ;/
then some arab dude declares war next year too, and my brother that i just reconquered couple turns ago , due silly inheritance and hes going solo, suddenly takes over my 2 counties and declares war with massive stacks out of random
i get 2 holy mercanaries, because infidels attacked and im on crusade, i beat the crap out of arab, win that war and go broke in next 5 mins, because holy mercanaries are bugged and cost money when on crusade.. when they shouldnt
then my another 2 mercenaries leave me , not the first time, but this time both of them declare war on me, so i lost 70% of my (empire ) all my army, and i have 200 wars...
good stuff.. i feel like they got kinda lazy with Italy.., i should had claims of plots to become Sicily king , considering i had at least 50% of it and won numerous wars vs king
when i took some random hungary vassal, which was vassal to lord, which was vassal to king, i had plots and all that to become independent, and so on, this time around nothing whole time ;/
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 20:02 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | every time my ruler died my kingdom would split , and i have to wage new wards to reclaim them, i couldnt rly make vassals , if i gave property they just went independent.. one i got from war, hated me and got me excommunicated .. |
Change inheritance from gavelkind to primogeniture. In gavelkind, the holdings are distributed equally among all eligible heirs. In primogeniture, only the oldest heir gets everything. Also, if you give a title to someone that is equal to your own, they are independent. I play as a duke, and if I give a duchy to someone, they become independent. I have to only give counties or settlements.
| Quote: | | i get 2 holy mercanaries, because infidels attacked and im on crusade, i beat the crap out of arab, win that war and go broke in next 5 mins, because holy mercanaries are bugged and cost money when on crusade.. when they shouldnt |
Are you sure it was a crusade and not just a holy war? There is a difference.
| Quote: | | good stuff.. i feel like they got kinda lazy with Italy.., i should had claims of plots to become Sicily king , considering i had at least 50% of it and won numerous wars vs king |
I'm not sure you can plot this kind of takeovers. This isn't like assassinating someone. It takes long time planing. Or just plain old conquest.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 20:51 Post subject: |
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it was crusade because i declared crusade as war reason on targeted region,
at least in defending holy war those are free to use, tutorial said same for crusades too, but thats blatant lie ;/ or just broken without patch
i never actually had chance to change those laws, its either you need 10 years, which i always had and then one vassal hated me so couldnt change either ;/
well ill try again, maybe just reload older save before i declare war, and get another 20 declared, or at least where i instantly disband holy mercs, so my regular army wont turn against me
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 21:36 Post subject: |
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Why the hell is SKIDROW releasing the Steam version? Is it the only one out there? Paradox games released through GamersGate usually have no protection at all. Patching will be a needless hassle.
Bah, I'll just wait for another release by some group not obsessed with cracking something.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 22:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Feb 2012 22:28 Post subject: |
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| ShadowB wrote: | Why the hell is SKIDROW releasing the Steam version? Is it the only one out there? Paradox games released through GamersGate usually have no protection at all. Patching will be a needless hassle.
Bah, I'll just wait for another release by some group not obsessed with cracking something. |
I think the non-drm digital releases are not out yet.
Afaik. this release is from the boxed version which is tied to steam.
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