Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded
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KeyserSoeze




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 12:51    Post subject:
ehm there is no way to move the screen expect keys or scroll??? Very HappyD
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Auran13




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 14:13    Post subject:
hold middle mouse i think? its definately one of them
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 14:17    Post subject:
To move the screen around you either use WSAD or the middle mouse button. Why they removed the feature to move the camera by moving the cursor to the edge of the screen I don't quite understand. Confused


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KeyserSoeze




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 14:55    Post subject:
Thats what i meant with scroll, mouse 3. Its fucking retarded lol Very Happy
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Moshi




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 19:55    Post subject:
Ummm, where can I see objectives? Keyboard shortcuts? Why does it take 3 seconds to fire a goddamn gun?
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randir14




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 20:17    Post subject:
Moshi wrote:
Ummm, where can I see objectives? Keyboard shortcuts? Why does it take 3 seconds to fire a goddamn gun?


I have the same problem with objectives. I killed everyone in the level, but there are still two green icons on the map as if I'm supposed to go there and do something. But there is nothing there...
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2012 23:34    Post subject:
randir14 wrote:
Moshi wrote:
Ummm, where can I see objectives? Keyboard shortcuts? Why does it take 3 seconds to fire a goddamn gun?


I have the same problem with objectives. I killed everyone in the level, but there are still two green icons on the map as if I'm supposed to go there and do something. But there is nothing there...


That's all you get in the demo. All you get to do is kill all the enemies and then reload it from the start if you want. Sad

Anywho, trying to cancel my pre-order now. Hope steam refunds me 33€ for this pile of dog-poo.
I'll think about it after I've tested out demo.iso first and then maybe I'll get it while it's in the bargain bin. ^_^


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dsergei




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 09:15    Post subject:
Despite the unintuitive interface and the stupid real-time the demo was somewhat fun. Might become even more fun when they hide the enemies.
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Auran13




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 13:33    Post subject:
they're not gonna hide the enemies. Sad

what they really need to fix is the bad LoS, mercs not firing and bad stealth mechanics, then i might actually like it if they took the JA name off.
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adaml75




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PostPosted: Sun, 5th Feb 2012 20:45    Post subject:
Tried the demo. It's not so difficult at all - mostly because enemies are quite dumb (but in the original JA and SIlent Storm they were dumb too). The game seems rough, and I would still prefer it turn-based, but it's not bad. Not quite Jagged Alliance, but still fun. Why no destructible environments? Silent Storm did it very well, and it looked nicer... and it was made a few years ago.
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crossmr




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 00:31    Post subject:
adaml75 wrote:
Tried the demo. It's not so difficult at all - mostly because enemies are quite dumb (but in the original JA and SIlent Storm they were dumb too). The game seems rough, and I would still prefer it turn-based, but it's not bad. Not quite Jagged Alliance, but still fun. Why no destructible environments? Silent Storm did it very well, and it looked nicer... and it was made a few years ago.



Every night i dream about a silent storm sequel...that game was fantastic.


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Auran13




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 04:08    Post subject:
except for those stupid robots, game went down hill as soon as they were introduced. Sad
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adaml75




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 12:06    Post subject:
I miss the desctructible terrain more. Silent Storm did it perfectly - you could shoot through floors, which was a lot of fun... Why couldn't they just license the engine?
By the way, the first tactical game with destructible walls and environment was Rebestar Raiders, circa 1987, on ZX Spectrum. Made by Gollop brothers, who later created X-Com. Rebelstar is amazing game, quite playable even today.
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 13:18    Post subject:
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 13:24    Post subject:
Somewhat, they made a sequel but it wasn't as popular, plus the somewhat unrealistic mechanic armor later in the game though this was modded out and I think it was gone entirely in the sequel.

On the plus side most anything is destructible and the AI is quite decent from what I remember, I think it came out in 2006 and 2007 for the sequel but I might be wrong.
(Nice list of equipment too and there's a variety of possible tactics.)

I think they're different studios but with the same publisher but there's also 7.62 and 5.56 but reviews and opinions are a bit mixed and both have a number of bugs and technical issues though I believe there's a number of community fixes for them.
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Paimei




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 13:54    Post subject:
crossmr wrote:
Every night i dream about a silent storm sequel...that game was fantastic.


Yeah absoloutely awesome game! Too bad it never got the popularity it deserved Crying or Very sad
Ever since I played SS, the sight of red oil barrels makes my trigger finger itch Smile
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shole




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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 20:07    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
the somewhat unrealistic mechanic armor later in the game though this was modded out

what? where?
i was very disappointed there was no active mod community around it
such a great engine
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Mon, 6th Feb 2012 20:24    Post subject:
It was a long time since I checked up on it but I found some sites. Smile
http://s2mods.tripod.com/

http://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/S2-S3-HandS-Modding-f37.html
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mYslead




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 21:29    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
It was a long time since I checked up on it but I found some sites. Smile
http://s2mods.tripod.com/

http://www.strategycore.co.uk/forums/S2-S3-HandS-Modding-f37.html


wow a tripod website ahah
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 21:32    Post subject:
CDkeysHere.com are selling this for 25USD. That's a price I'm willing to pay for this (which is around 180SEK). ^_^


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 22:55    Post subject:
Jagged.Alliance.Back.in.Action-SKIDROW
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 22:57    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
Jagged.Alliance.Back.in.Action-SKIDROW


Seriously?


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 22:58    Post subject:
Seriously.
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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 22:58    Post subject:
That was quick...


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Guyver




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:04    Post subject:
only 2,30 gb?
uhm... i hope they fixed the shitty AI on the demo, but i'm too optimistic right? Laughing


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:05    Post subject:
The one I found is 4.19GB...

Hope I'm not downloading some fakt shit now. >.<


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human_steel




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:09    Post subject:
Size is 2354MB. Yes, there's a high chance you're downloading child porn instead.
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Guyver




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:10    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
Size is 2354MB. Yes, there's a high chance you're downloading child porn instead.

Laughing


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:10    Post subject:
human_steel wrote:
Size is 2354MB. Yes, there's a high chance you're downloading child porn instead.


DELETE, DELETE, DELETE! Sad


Meh, I have to stop using public torrent's...taking ages. T_T


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Wed, 8th Feb 2012 23:39    Post subject:
Alright, so going to install it and test it out.

Hope it's at least a fun time-killer. ^_^


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