Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
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JBeckman
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:31    Post subject:
How the hell could you have managed to decrypt that? interesting info however, still I wonder how that was done, now I'm curious.
(Was there anything of the game available last week at all?)

I'll see if I can find any online stores but I guess if you haven't heard anything there might not be much for now besides Steam, (Gamersgate UK) or EA but it'll probably change.

EDIT: Green Man Gaming has it come to think of it but I don't think they send the keys early.
http://www.greenmangaming.co.uk/games/rpgs/kingdoms-amalur-reckoning/
(Though Gamersgate is cheaper by a little bit it seems - http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-KOARUK/kingdoms-of-amalur-reckoning-uk )


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:32    Post subject:
Lathieza wrote:
proekaan wrote:
yuri999 wrote:
How many things change based on the gender?


Nothing changes afaik...quite sad really.


I agree, woman character should have something like

gathering ingredients +2
cooking +2
inventory slots +2
hagling +2
speech +8

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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:35    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
How the hell could you have managed to decrypt that? interesting info however, still I wonder how that was done, now I'm curious.
(Was there anything of the game available last week at all?)

I'll see if I can find any online stores but I guess if you haven't heard anything there might not be much for now besides Steam, (Gamersgate UK) or EA but it'll probably change.

EDIT: Green Man Gaming has it come to think of it but I don't think they send the keys early.
http://www.greenmangaming.co.uk/games/rpgs/kingdoms-amalur-reckoning/
(Though Gamersgate is cheaper by a little bit it seems - http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-KOARUK/kingdoms-of-amalur-reckoning-uk )


just to clearify, by decrypting i mean the release date check you won't be able to run the game without a key
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:36    Post subject:
Yeah I know, I was curious though since that release date check should prevent such until next week. Smile
(I do have a key after all, EA sends those as soon as the game is available for pre-loading - well it doesn't actually pre-load as such, it downloads and installs and relies on online activation - and Steam does the same but with that full file encryption of theirs.)

EDIT: Edited the post a bit.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:37    Post subject:
The freakin' horrible inventory is something that pissed me a lot and I didn't even finish the demo. It's just so horrible and awful.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:37    Post subject:
I feel like such a heel, I'm waiting so anxiously on the cracked version to appear because I know I'm not strong enough to wait a week and a half after release in order to buy it.. heh. Really looking forward to this Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:38    Post subject:
kelpo wrote:
any store giving activation keys out for this game yet ? managed to decrypt the exe last week.


How did you manage to do it without the encryption keys? Can you provide any proof?
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:39    Post subject:
Pixieking wrote:
locke89 wrote:
Neon wrote:
http://gamingbolt.com/its-hard-to-make-pc-exclusives-due-to-extreme-piracy-reckoning-dev

Laughing

Say goodbye to my money.


Why? Because he is telling the truth? PC piracy > consoles piracy. The fact that consoles games leak earlier has nothing to do with it - it's all about the numbers.
On the side note: 4.5 millions copies of pirated Witcher 2? Damn, that's huge.


Urgh.

Off topic, but it's the same old piracy fallacies.

Console games leaking earlier has a lot to do with it, actually. Day 0 piracy is worse than Day 1, because a lot of people who would legitmately buy the game don't want to wait a few days for it to be released, when they can pirate it and play it straight away.

And that Witcher 2 number? Not only estimated, but doesn't take into account those who would've never bought the game, or later bought the game, or just wanted to try it to see if they liked it. It's not all about the numbers - it's all about the lost sales, which are an unknown.


The music industry did the same song and dance about how much their sales were being hurt by downloads, but the exact opposite was true, sales increased over the same period they complained.

Console publishers do the same thing over second hand sales. They go to great lengths letting everyone know how badly they cut into their sales, they make online passes, day one dlc, etc to try to stop it. Yet console games sell more than ever. They just complain because they see something worth complaining about.

Once the next generation of consoles has DRM that stops 2nd hand sales completely they will start complaining about piracy next. It's a never ending cycle.

Reckoning guy is still salty over Titan Quest, which was a game that had good word of mouth but zero marketing. No one heard of it, but it's the pirates fault people didn't buy it! If Reckoning doesnt sell well it will be pirates, not that it's a previously canceled console game from like 2006 being sold for $60
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:39    Post subject:
Ah I forgot about that Riptide, Steam and decryption it via that other Portal 2 based utility could work, I'll have to check up on that immediately.

EDIT: Nope, no key available that way.
(Unless it was recently pulled.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:43    Post subject:
hailey wrote:
If Reckoning doesnt sell well it will be pirates, not that it's a previously canceled console game from like 2006 being sold for $60


Care to provide proof on that statement?
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:43    Post subject:
JB: You talking about Phoenix?
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:45    Post subject:
No it's a different utility that reads the NCF files and decrypts matching preloaded data, it's not 100% reliable and it doesn't usually work since the binaries (exe file and such) are normally added just as the game unlocks (Not to mention the day-1 patch that's rather common now.) but it has it's uses, still it too does require a decryption key to be present before it can work with the files.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 15:48    Post subject:
No, I didn't prove your point whatsoever - I AM buying this game. There is absolutely no contest or doubt about that, I just don't want to wait until pay day before I play it I'll "acquire" it asap, then purchase when I have the cash.

~edit~

Ah ha! Your deletion skills are lacking, my friend grinhurt


Pixieking wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:

I feel like such a heel, I'm waiting so anxiously on the cracked version to appear because I know I'm not strong enough to wait a week and a half after release in order to buy it.. heh. Really looking forward to this Very Happy


And thank you for proving my point.

Pixieking wrote:

Day 0 piracy is worse than Day 1, because a lot of people who would legitmately buy the game don't want to wait a few days for it to be released, when they can pirate it and play it straight away.


Laughing


...hehehe.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 16:04    Post subject:
Heh...

Yeah, I realised you weren't quite proving my point, so deleted my post. Not fast enough though. Damn youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 16:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
hailey wrote:
If Reckoning doesnt sell well it will be pirates, not that it's a previously canceled console game from like 2006 being sold for $60


Care to provide proof on that statement?


http://www.gamespot.com/news/thq-buys-big-huge-games-6184720

http://www.edge-online.com/news/thq-big-huge-rpg-didnt-make-cut

Was called Ascension, there was some leaked footage out but it's much harder to find now.

Big Huge Games were working on Ascension since 2006 or 2007, which was bought by THQ in 2008, then cancelled a year later, then they shopped it around and 38 studios bought it and rebadged it as "Kingdoms of Amalur" as a lead in to their MMO franchise.

It's 99% the same game which Ken Rolston (aka a crazy idiot) designed which is why it looks like a several year old 360 game. Hell the game still focuses on that "well of ascension" or whatever it is in the demo, they probably didn't even change up the plot much
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 16:31    Post subject:
The prototype movies I mentioned in a previous post and the actual cinematics are nearly identical although I understood Ascension to still be "on" and readied to be the MMO part of the franchise.
(Since there's a lot of backstory added and the actual world map is pretty vast compared to the little part Reckoning takes part in.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 17:47    Post subject:
riptide77 wrote:

How did you manage to do it without the encryption keys? Can you provide any proof?


http://i.imgur.com/QoHAC.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 17:47    Post subject:
Ah so that's what you meant, now I understand it a bit better. Smile

EDIT: Yeah that turned out pretty well didn't it. Surprised











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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 17:50    Post subject:
kelpo wrote:
riptide77 wrote:

How did you manage to do it without the encryption keys? Can you provide any proof?


http://i.imgur.com/QoHAC.jpg


Good job. Care to share your method? You can PM me if you don't want to publicize it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 17:51    Post subject:
@hailey/Thorwulf

Thank you very much, I guess that really is pretty conclusive. The trailer to Ascension has a definite Amalur/Fable look about it, so it's not hard to imagine Amalur is what Ascension become - though 38 Studios/BHG have maintained that Copernicus (the codename of their MMO) is what they've been working on all along, so perhaps Ascension was originally the MMO but decided to make an SP version first to try and lay the ground work?

Still, I don't really care whether the game was a cancelled title in the past, as long as it's good in the present. The demo wowed me so I'm grateful the game is coming in the first place Very Happy

kelpo wrote:
riptide77 wrote:

How did you manage to do it without the encryption keys? Can you provide any proof?


http://i.imgur.com/QoHAC.jpg


*drool* You lucky bastard! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:03    Post subject:
some ppl say some versions are from origin , which one is steam preload
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:09    Post subject:
Ali213 version is origin preload.
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riptide77




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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:13    Post subject:
demde wrote:
Ali213 version is origin preload.


Are you referring to this version?

Kingdoms.of.Amalur.Reckoning.Full.Repack.s5.9g-ali213
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:18    Post subject:
Kingdoms.of.Amalur.Reckoning.ENG-ALI213
Yours should be the same, but repacked.Im not sure though...
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:19    Post subject:
so origin games have release date checks like on steam or what
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:40    Post subject:
Something like that, but in origin preload only main executable is encrypted.And if kelpo is not lying its easier to decrypt
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:43    Post subject:
Well it does seem like Kelpo managed to get his copy working ahead of schedule, so perhaps one of the release groups is also close to fixing theirs too? Personally I hope it'll be the Steam copy that comes first, as that's the one I plan on buying and want my save games to be transferable Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:45    Post subject:
Steam likely uses full encryption and probably Steamworks instead of EA's system with Origin, EA Origin uses Origin itself and a release date check with online activation via cd-key. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Feb 2012 18:50    Post subject:
i didn't do anything out of the ordinary, last week the releasedate check decrypted the exe just fine they armed the protection this week
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