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 Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 21:02 Post subject: A deep philosophical question... |
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So after my exam in nuclear physics, me and my friends (there were girls included xD) went on a couple of beers.
And we were having a laugh, until one friend came from toilet, and since the toilet had like a wooden bulkhead that was separating men and women part, he had a philosophical question, that we all had quite a different reactions to.
Is a gloryhole inherently gay?
Because, how do you know who is on the other side?
Unless it's in the same toilets... Or are they always in the same toilets (like for men only)? I'm not really familiar with gloryhole concept.
I was kinda puzzled. Seemed to me that it's kinda that question: if a tree falls in the forest and no one sees it fall, did the tree really fall?!
I could be wrong tho, I had quite a lot of beer 
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 21:37 Post subject: |
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You might also look at the glass half full and think that
if you enjoyed it, then the source of the pleasure doesn't matter xD
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 21:44 Post subject: |
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No
its nothing to do with being inherently gay.
as Gay is by definition "the sexual attraction and desire for members of the same sex".
so by its definition, to 'be gay' means you get arousal from members of the same sex as you, and find the idea of them arousing. Actions and situations cannot be 'gay'. its a term applied to people themselves and which gender turns them on.
a glory hole is the absence of any feedback of the sex of the other member..so it would neither be homo or heterosexually driven in and of itself as a situation. i. As there is no definitive facts about who is giving, its the mindset of the person receiving it and what they are using mentally as a motivator to get off that defines if the enjoyment received is of a homo or hetro driven nature.
its the same as asking "is masturbating gay, since your jacking off a guy"...
a flawed question, as the jacking off part isnt the focus or mentally exciting/stimulating part of the equation. its merely a means to the end of what fantasy situation you are placing yourself into.
Or having some guy going "while you was asleep dude, I TOTALLY sucked you off..that means your gay". When to the guy receiving he could have been dreaming it was a female, and only that fact alone is what caused him to be aroused. there was nothing on his part of a homosexual arousal to excite him that he was aware of.
So if your not aroused by the idea of a guy doing it, then by definition it cant be 'gay'. because as I stated before, 'gay' is only a term used to define what gender arouses you to climax.
For example, to me, take a guy in prison...using another guy as a means to get off. If hes only using the guy as a physical stimulation while blocking out the reality its a guyand using hetro mental images to actually get off, then he is not 'gay' as hes not attracted to men at all. He is just using the only thing he has at his disposal to fullfill his heterosexual desires. No different than using a blow up doll to get off. what would you call that? plasticsexual?..no. So why would the device used to get off effect the mental label of if you are truly homo or hetero
Its depending on if the person doing it is fantasizing about men or women, is what makes them homosexual, not the receiving/giving parties involved.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 00:42 Post subject: Re: A deep philosophical question... |
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| dingo_d wrote: | I was kinda puzzled. Seemed to me that it's kinda that question: if a tree falls in the forest and no one sees it fall, did the tree really fall?!
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Also, did the tree fall just because you were looking?
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 01:01 Post subject: Re: A deep philosophical question... |
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 01:23 Post subject: Re: A deep philosophical question... |
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| Nhiumewyn wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | dingo_d wrote: | I was kinda puzzled. Seemed to me that it's kinda that question: if a tree falls in the forest and no one sees it fall, did the tree really fall?!
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Also, did the tree fall just because you were looking?
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 03:11 Post subject: |
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Well if you are the one who is getting the blowjob who cares, i mean seriously, so what if it is a dude you are the one getting you're dick sucked.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 07:37 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | No
its nothing to do with being inherently gay.
as Gay is by definition "the sexual attraction and desire for members of the same sex".
so by its definition, to 'be gay' means you get arousal from members of the same sex as you, and find the idea of them arousing. Actions and situations cannot be 'gay'. its a term applied to people themselves and which gender turns them on.
a glory hole is the absence of any feedback of the sex of the other member..so it would neither be homo or heterosexually driven in and of itself as a situation. i. As there is no definitive facts about who is giving, its the mindset of the person receiving it and what they are using mentally as a motivator to get off that defines if the enjoyment received is of a homo or hetro driven nature.
its the same as asking "is masturbating gay, since your jacking off a guy"...
a flawed question, as the jacking off part isnt the focus or mentally exciting/stimulating part of the equation. its merely a means to the end of what fantasy situation you are placing yourself into.
Or having some guy going "while you was asleep dude, I TOTALLY sucked you off..that means your gay". When to the guy receiving he could have been dreaming it was a female, and only that fact alone is what caused him to be aroused. there was nothing on his part of a homosexual arousal to excite him that he was aware of.
So if your not aroused by the idea of a guy doing it, then by definition it cant be 'gay'. because as I stated before, 'gay' is only a term used to define what gender arouses you to climax.
For example, to me, take a guy in prison...using another guy as a means to get off. If hes only using the guy as a physical stimulation while blocking out the reality its a guyand using hetro mental images to actually get off, then he is not 'gay' as hes not attracted to men at all. He is just using the only thing he has at his disposal to fullfill his heterosexual desires. No different than using a blow up doll to get off. what would you call that? plasticsexual?..no. So why would the device used to get off effect the mental label of if you are truly homo or hetero
Its depending on if the person doing it is fantasizing about men or women, is what makes them homosexual, not the receiving/giving parties involved. |
Wow, you've really put some thinking into it 
Well it's interesting to see the effect of beer on physics students xD
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Haha not really
One of my good friends is gay, but I've known him like 15 years and still wouldn't believe hes gay if he didnt live with his boyfriend...haha
We had a it come up one day and he was saying the same thing, that gay people making 'gay' mean more than what you prefer in the bedroom pisses him off, gay is a sexual preference, not a philosophy or way of life..lol
That to him, gay is just a matter of what gets him hard thinking about sticking his dick into it, not a lifestyle, or dictates how he acts, or should act, etc.
That people label a lot of things 'gay' than if you took the other side of the coin, and labeled the opposite action 'hetero' it wouldn't make sense at all.
like the funniest thing he said was when people go "Oh you have a boyfriend? I didn't know I haven't seen you do anything that made me think you was gay" he went "what do they mean I haven't done anything to make them think I'm gay, they mean I haven't wiped it out and fucked a guy infront of them?"
so its just a summary of what we was talking about..lol
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 16:48 Post subject: |
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If a dick gets hard in the forrest, will only gay people feel its current state? Does size matter?
Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Jan 2012 17:12 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | Haha not really
One of my good friends is gay, but I've known him like 15 years and still wouldn't believe hes gay if he didnt live with his boyfriend...haha
We had a it come up one day and he was saying the same thing, that gay people making 'gay' mean more than what you prefer in the bedroom pisses him off, gay is a sexual preference, not a philosophy or way of life..lol
That to him, gay is just a matter of what gets him hard thinking about sticking his dick into it, not a lifestyle, or dictates how he acts, or should act, etc.
That people label a lot of things 'gay' than if you took the other side of the coin, and labeled the opposite action 'hetero' it wouldn't make sense at all.
like the funniest thing he said was when people go "Oh you have a boyfriend? I didn't know I haven't seen you do anything that made me think you was gay" he went "what do they mean I haven't done anything to make them think I'm gay, they mean I haven't wiped it out and fucked a guy infront of them?"
so its just a summary of what we was talking about..lol |
Well, I've met some gay ppl, and there are ones who you can say are gay, with the way they are talking, gesturing etc. But then I've met those who you'd never tell they are gay if you didn't know them...
So I see what you mean, but I kinda understand when ppl make stupid stereotypes that are put in by mass media and stupid sitcom shows...
@Acer: But that would be like when planet explodes and a Jedi says: I feel the disturbance in the force 
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