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 Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 17:51 Post subject: Another hypothetical. Agree or disagree? |
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If there was no way to pirate games (hypothetically), then game prices would go up.
Agree or disagree?
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 17:53 Post subject: |
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They wouldn't drop in price, that's for sure.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 18:01 Post subject: |
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agree.
Thats pure economy. if its the only means You can get the thing, It can cost any price(reasonable lets say) and consumers will have to buy it.
offcourse games are luxury product so people would stop if, after certain price.
bu I guess that 100$ could still work
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 18:24 Post subject: |
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they wouldnt go up.... they are insanely high enough as it... but they wouldnt go down.... no point in dropping the price when people are already buying.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 18:27 Post subject: |
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You should visit Poland. games, software, movies, electronics are INSANELY high here. We would only dream to have prices as low as states or uk. In relative meaning that is.
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Neon
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:16 Post subject: |
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They're not high at all, actually relatively they are lower than in US/UK.
Hell, let's even compare something as simple a a bus ticket.
In UK ( source: http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Travel/Transport/London/Buses.htm )
it costs 1,35 pounds[7 zlotys] ( when using a special card,) or 2,30 [12,80 zlotys] pounds without it.
In US ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_transit_fares ) it's 2.25 dollars a ticket.
In Poland, it's 2,80 zlotys[0.54 pounds/0.84 dollars] for a ticket. ( http://mpk.lublin.pl/?id_site=1&id=383 )
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:22 Post subject: |
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no piracy no gaming  ofc will go up but tons of dlc's will go even higher , we will have tons of unfinished games with tons of expensive dlc 
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:27 Post subject: |
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Disagree. It has nothing to do with piracy.
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Neon
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:28 Post subject: |
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To be honest, I think the prices would actually drop. I know I wouldn't buy as many games if I wouldn't have downloaded them beforehand, and if there's no demand, obviously the price has to drop.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:30 Post subject: |
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Agree, piracy essentially is competition, and competition always lead to lower prices.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:36 Post subject: |
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it will go up.
imagine you are selling drugs.
if you are the only one who produce the drug u can take any price u want.
so it would be with games. of course at some point the limit is reached but until then it will rise.
maybe there will be cheap indie games but most people want fifa cod half life and other "blockbuster" games and these games would be cost insanely much
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:37 Post subject: |
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Last time I checked PC games from the big publishers (EA, Activision) started very recently sporting $60 prices, because, why the hell not since people are willing to pay? Piracy and all, they decided to raise the price; not drop it or keep it the same.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:41 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Agree, piracy essentially is competition, and competition always lead to lower prices. |
Does it? There are something like 5-10 big publishers competing right now; yet all of them price their games as $60 on consoles and $50-60 on PC.
Why doesn't the competition drive some of them to price their games at $40?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:49 Post subject: |
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We seen it with Call of Duty, they knew they were guaranteed to sell millions of copies but jacked up the price because they could, knowing that people would still pay the extra for a big name game and it worked out well for them
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:54 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:56 Post subject: |
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Price cartel or whatever you want to call it...happens all the time.
But ya,I kinda disagree too to the original question. Piracy has nothing to do with the prices going up.
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 20:59 Post subject: |
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And you use an average cost of living and "do the math".
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| Posted: Wed, 25th Jan 2012 21:11 Post subject: Re: Another hypothetical. Agree or disagree? |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | Radicalus wrote: | If there was no way to pirate games (hypothetically), then game prices would go up.
Agree or disagree? |
i wish there were more pirate games 
Hasnt been a good one since Pirates! The first one, not the console remake ^^ |
 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Jan 2012 06:59 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | fisk wrote: | | Agree, piracy essentially is competition, and competition always lead to lower prices. |
Does it? There are something like 5-10 big publishers competing right now; yet all of them price their games as $60 on consoles and $50-60 on PC.
Why doesn't the competition drive some of them to price their games at $40? |
I said competition, not agreements.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Jan 2012 09:26 Post subject: Re: Another hypothetical. Agree or disagree? |
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| Radicalus wrote: | If there was no way to pirate games (hypothetically), then game prices would go up.
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Lets put it the other way. Prices will always be optimized in such way to maximize sales. They will be lower, if it increases the sales and profit. They will be higher, if it increases the profit.
Lowering price could actually be more effective, in theory, if there was no piracy. I mean, lower price doesn't mean a shit to user who downloads games anyway, but if there was no piracy it could matter.
Although my personal opinion is that prices would not really drop for new titles, but that price drop will be faster for older games, then now.
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Jan 2012 13:37 Post subject: |
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I said this the other day in a different thread and two other posters disagreed.
| CompuGeek wrote: | | I would bet that the game companies are going to see an increase in revenue due to all these hosting sights closing their "sharing" doors. |
It only makes sense that buying games will now increase due to lack of piracy, it is hard as heck to find anything right now and nevermind new releases.
I seriously doubt that publishers will drop the price, if anything, they will raise them to "maybe" punish us pirates.
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