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sausje
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 04:52    Post subject:
Oh fuck, i'm getting confused with these sides in SWTOR...

You can pick good and still go evil or good and go good or bad and go bad or bad and go good or what...
Shit this is confusing.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 04:53    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Oh fuck, i'm getting confused with these sides in SWTOR...

You can pick good and still go evil or good and go good or bad and go bad or bad and go good or what...
Shit this is confusing.

It's not really confusing. Think of the Sith and Jedi as Republicans and Democrats. You have good and bad people in both camps even though they picked different parties. Being a "light" Sith is like being a moderate republican and not being against abortion while being a "light" Jedi would be like being a left wing democrat.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 04:54    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Holy crap, is der nicht extrem voll wegen Derpvinho von WoWSzene?

sausje wrote:
Hmm, i don't want to be evil tho.
When i think of SW, i think of pure good, no evil!

And we all know Germans like to be evil, so how's that going to work? Razz


Kuro's char is Jedi. Means they are Republic. Scratch Head (Not evil)


nope, garkeine wartezeiten mehr seit knapp 2 wochen. vorallem hab ich diesen derpvinho nie getroffen...weißt du zufällig wie sein char angeblich heißt?

/edit: LOL DAS sind die von Just the Dark Side...die bekommen von uns jedes mal die Fresse poliert Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy MUAHAHAHAHA....

@sausje: yea, just like he said...we're republic but well...it's your choice if you decide to be evil or good ... I'm evil Twisted Evil


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 04:55    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Oh fuck, i'm getting confused with these sides in SWTOR...

You can pick good and still go evil or good and go good or bad and go bad or bad and go good or what...
Shit this is confusing.


Republic = A somewhat democratic regime
Empire = Totalitarianism or something like that

And there is a Dark/Light side points system. So theoreticly, you could be a good Sith or a bad Jedi. SWToR surely isn't that Black&White and got it's shades of grey. Oh, and you get those points just the same way like you did in the MassEffect games through conversations.

Kurosaki wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Holy crap, is der nicht extrem voll wegen Derpvinho von WoWSzene?

sausje wrote:
Hmm, i don't want to be evil tho.
When i think of SW, i think of pure good, no evil!

And we all know Germans like to be evil, so how's that going to work? Razz


Kuro's char is Jedi. Means they are Republic. Scratch Head (Not evil)


nope, garkeine wartezeiten mehr seit knapp 2 wochen. vorallem hab ich diesen derpvinho nie getroffen...weißt du zufällig wie sein char angeblich heißt?

@sausje: yea, just like he said...we're republic but well...it's your choice if you decide to be evil or good ... I'm evil Twisted Evil


Deren Gilde is wohl "Just the Darkside" oder sowas und Stevinhos char heißt "Stevethene" (der findet Athene ja so schnieke...). Spielen aber halt Empire.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 05:00    Post subject:
Ah, but both good and evil from the same side can still play with eachother, just the factions are purely at war?


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 05:04    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Ah, but both good and evil from the same side can still play with eachother, just the factions are purely at war?


Yes. The Darkside/Lightside (Paragon/Renegade) stuff has nothing to do with your faction or anything. It's just made for your playstyle and differs your Story-Quests abit. (And the look of your char if you go Darkside. Again, like in ME2).

The only thing that matters is the faction (like in every other MMO). Just create an Republic character on their server and you're set Very Happy


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Kurosaki




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 05:04    Post subject:
@meth: jo, hab meinen Beitrag noch mal editiert. Die Typen sind richtig fail im BG soweit ich mich erinnern kann, aber die wissen mittlerweile auch, dass sie mich zuerst töten müssen, wenn sie den rest wollen ^^....

@Sausje: you can still play together, doesn't matter.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 05:09    Post subject:
yeah saus, join us Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 06:21    Post subject:
hmmm i shall buy this penis of a game... i get to choose server?
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 08:31    Post subject:
i just love how some people can hate on games lol.

if paulaner decide to shit on my Weißbier, i would hate them. and move to another brand.
same shit with game. worst actually in case of mmos, cause you give them the money, and have no idea if they taste good trough the end. kinda pricey to do a "drink" drive Smile.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 09:50    Post subject:
Kurosaki wrote:
sausje wrote:
Oh fick mich, hab keine wahl eh^^

Shit kuro Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 09:57    Post subject:
Don't think so. But it's still unpolite, so we should stop Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 13:13    Post subject:
I bet my last response wasn't trollfail, now was it, Sin, otherwise you would have responded, eh?

Did some analysis of level 50 crafting, if my initial numbers are right, it's even less worth it than leveling crafting - others on the forum seem to think so, too.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 13:47    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
I bet my last response wasn't trollfail, now was it, Sin, otherwise you would have responded, eh?

Did some analysis of level 50 crafting, if my initial numbers are right, it's even less worth it than leveling crafting - others on the forum seem to think so, too.


nah, i simply decided to be the bigger man and not getting in a pointless discussion with you about something as trivial as this.

thats all Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 15:58    Post subject:
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It's not really confusing. Think of the Sith and Jedi as Republicans and Democrats. You have good and bad people in both camps even though they picked different parties. Being a "light" Sith is like being a moderate republican and not being against abortion while being a "light" Jedi would be like being a left wing democrat.


LOL!

I've seen a lot of discussion about this and most people try to make it seem as if the sides are "equal" in terms of goodness. They aren't and weren't meant to be. The Imperials are fascist by their very nature, which is why they are known to be anti-alien and pro-human, as well. They're the Nazis of the galaxy. There were "good" Nazis and obviously not the entire German population were Hitlers. Some people just loved their country, and some actually believed in the cause; that is the difference. The Sith are the "master race" and it's made pretty obvious that you accept that or die. The Republic, on the other hand, is simply an incompetent and corrupt government of democracy - reflected most by the UN, imho.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 16:02    Post subject:
The Empire and Republic are quite alike. The only difference is that the Republic tries to hide it.

Neither side is good, Republic just likes to believe it is.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 16:04    Post subject:
Radicalus wrote:
I bet my last response wasn't trollfail, now was it, Sin, otherwise you would have responded, eh?

Did some analysis of level 50 crafting, if my initial numbers are right, it's even less worth it than leveling crafting - others on the forum seem to think so, too.


Your initial reply about crafting was desiring of a response but I didn't really want to get into it. Quite frankly I've found the crafting system to be quite frustrating, but I've definitely made a profit with it. I think a lot of it has to do with the server and the individual's approach. Just like some people play Skyrim and max enchanting and smithing to take advantage of it to kill the dragon at low levels with awesome gear, people on a hardcore PVP server expect to min/max the crafting system, not realizing that it's not the way it's intended to be used. If you want to do that, take up biochem or slicing.

On my mediocre PVE server, I was always a few levels above my areas, so I had plenty of materials to RE and make blues/purples just from doing targeted Underworld Training runs (I'm an armormech). I then sold the results at relatively low prices through multiple tiers of levels - and I still make a killing. I've also been able to fill the gaps in my and my companions gear at-level as I go. So for me, crafting is working entirely as intended. I was able to get my speeders immediately at level with money left over, make top notch gear for myself, and make other people happy with cheap items while still making a profit.
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 16:51    Post subject:
lol finally figured out, what affection really is good for (i honestly didnt know)

it improves your companions success in missions (crew skills) , reduces time it takes and cost.

so it IS useful Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 17:00    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
lol finally figured out, what affection really is good for (i honestly didnt know)

it improves your companions success in missions (crew skills) , reduces time it takes and cost.

so it IS useful Smile


Certainly is, only problem I have atm is that the one companion I use all the time because he is the best tank has the highest affection but I need him to tank for me.
Can not send him out on a mission when actually playing.
So I will have to buy me a shit ton of gifts for the others.


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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jan 2012 17:10    Post subject:
Like Sin said, I love crafting in this game. Although it does have one thing that's a bit annoying.
I lvl up to fast, and by the time I've gathered enough parts for the current lvl of items I can craft, not to mention blue,or purple items; I can already craft a higher lvl item. Making the parts I gathered up until then obsolete.

I'm guessing crafting really becomes useful once you reach lvl 50, but so far it's been more of a cash source than anything else.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 08:08    Post subject:
been playing a bounty hunter for a few days now, really liking her so far and who wouldnt be watching that lvl 4 ass running around...

One thing thats odd and I dont know why bio decided to do it this way is the light vs dark side points for non force characters and specifically how they change the facial look of your character.
Its the abuse of the force that twists its user, making their eyes redish and their face gray with veins sticking out.
But to a non force user this shouldnt apply, now I know you can turn this feature off if you want but Id find it much more logical if non force users woudnt have to choose between light and dark but something else, good vs evil etc etc
Just a strange design choice...


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 09:44    Post subject:
It's a design choice I saw coming. Without it, people would be complaining that only the force classes get any appearance change.

You're right though, it doesn't make any sense lore wise.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 09:48    Post subject:
lorewise if you want : force is in anyone out there, but only few are capable of use it. and even if you canot use it, that not means you choices cannot affect it Smile.
you can write any crap you want to justify a game design. take a look at wow.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 09:52    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
force is in anyone out there


I hate "him" so much for coming up with that shit in EP1 -.-


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 09:53    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
lorewise if you want : force is in anyone out there, but only few are capable of use it. and even if you canot use it, that not means you choices cannot affect it Smile.



Nah, you have to be able to use it for it to twist you, sure there are force sensetive creatures in the sw universe who arent trained to use it and as such wouldnt be corrupted by being evil doing vile things.

Its not that an evil force user is twisted because he or she is evil, its the effect of miss using or abusing the force.

Its also kinda immersion breaking as I wanted my BH to be a completely free agent helping both republic and the imperials.
A BHs allegiance is with who pays more imo...


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 10:04    Post subject:
GT Review
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-pod-star-wars/725626

Is Bioware's MMO a hit or just a momentary disturbance in the Force?
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 14:44    Post subject:
It's fun to play. But all those bugs everywhere, that don't seem to get fixed annoys me.
But i somehow already lose the fun in playing it Sad
There really isn't that much you can do as high level.
I mean i have 3,4 million credits and it keeps rising. And i don't know what i should buy with it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 16:44    Post subject:
Ok so are they really banning the keys from all key sites? Or just specific key selling sites? Someone a few posts back said his key got deactivated....Cause im kinda worried now....
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 16:48    Post subject:
Pipili wrote:
Ok so are they really banning the keys from all key sites? Or just specific key selling sites? Someone a few posts back said his key got deactivated....Cause im kinda worried now....


Wouldn't be surprised if Russ-Keys getting deactivated Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 16:50    Post subject:
thank god i got a chinese key Cool Face
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