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whats this XRelease site that utalking about can u give me the link to it?
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 18:02 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | True, besides the game/music/movie industry makes crazy money, they have huge profits, thats just a fact, no denying that.
All of this "music companies loose blahblah billions a year due to warez", is bullshit, many people wouldnt buy it anyway, but they download it because its Free, give out albums for free in the store and im there!
But really, its a too money obsessed world, if i had created a friggen great game, i would want as many people as possible to enjoy it.
It will hit the roof when it comes to sales anyway, just look at The Sims 2, that was easily cracked but has still sold so damn much that the guys developing it are all driving around in porches.
My point is, if you really create something for others to enjoy, then having 8 million bucks instead of 14 million bucks dont make a difference.
Then we have companies that only develop for money, as EA Sports, but we all know how much fun those games are..... 
Point is, if you create something GOOD, movies games or music, it will get sold more than enugh, regardless of warez. But that little tidbit of information is taboo. |
Exactly... and I would even say that in some cases warez helps the sales... For example a new game hits the shelves and many ppl don't know it, so they won't buy it... I would never buy I game I don't know... cause I don't believe the hype around games... Some ppl may download the game, find it very enjoyable,tell everyone it's a great game, go and buy it...
The publisher gets famous, developer gets famous... they get much cash and everyone is happy...
Let's for example take Spllinter Cell 3... There are many ppl that have never played Splinter Cell games, or they played, but didn't like them very much... Then the third part hits the stores... Ppl that would buy it no matter if it gets cracked or not, buy it right away... If the game is cracked after some time, ppl that didn't like the previous, may find the new one enjoyable and buy it... also ppl that never knew Splinter Cell could change their mind and buy... without cracks it will never happen...
I hope I didn't make many mistakes...
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ollax
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 18:30 Post subject: |
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BARDS ARE GAY! Theres no way this shit gets on my hdd! 
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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Godlikez*
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vurt
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 20:36 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | Point is, if you create something GOOD, movies games or music, it will get sold more than enugh, regardless of warez. |
Yeah, but now you're only talking about mainstream media. Games, movies and music that appeals to _MANY_ people, artists and developers that are already well estabilshed and have huge amount of $$$$ to spend on marketing their products. You know there's music, movies and games out there that tries something different or companies that are just starting up... Their sales are getting even lower with piracy. So no, in the end it's not all just a good thing (even though we want to believe it is..)
Games and music would be more versatile without piracy, im quite sure of that..
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 20:45 Post subject: |
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From the NFO:
"action/role-playing"
That alone makes me kind of doubtful of the quality of this remake or sequel or whatever you want to call it.
Rob
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 21:19 Post subject: |
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| Godlikez* wrote: | FU man! bards rock!
/me plays flute
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Are you trying to tell me that sucking and blowing on a fallos shaped "instrument" isnt gay?
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 21:37 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: | | Games and music would be more versatile without piracy, im quite sure of that.. |
I don't think so - the main problem is the greed of these companies coupled with the ridiculously high wages that musicians like Madonna, etc command. If everyone bought their games, movies & music all that would happen is the companies blithely keeping the prices the same or raising them further. Ideally there has to be a watchdog that guarantees quality in a new title - so if a game comes out which is rubbish for 1 reason or another like Dungeon Lords, & 1 million people pre-ordered it, they should be reimbursed & the company fined. Overall, the industry couldn't care less about the customers - those plebs who fork out their hard-earned on a crummy product - what they are interested in is good marketing to hook in those niave punters.
That's why warez groups & NoCD-ers do such a good job - you can try before you buy & if you like it then morally/legally you should purchase it. You try returning a game you bought at Game, etc - they couldn't care less about the fact the prodcut sucks or is programmed so poorly it frequently crashes on your rig, at the most they'll replace it for another copy of the same title.
You wanted a Miracle, I give you the F. B. Eye !!
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 22:09 Post subject: |
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| TheBugulous wrote: | | vurt wrote: | | Games and music would be more versatile without piracy, im quite sure of that.. |
I don't think so - the main problem is the greed of these companies coupled with the ridiculously high wages that musicians like Madonna, etc command. If everyone bought their games, movies & music all that would happen is the companies blithely keeping the prices the same or raising them further. Ideally there has to be a watchdog that guarantees quality in a new title - so if a game comes out which is rubbish for 1 reason or another like Dungeon Lords, & 1 million people pre-ordered it, they should be reimbursed & the company fined. Overall, the industry couldn't care less about the customers - those plebs who fork out their hard-earned on a crummy product - what they are interested in is good marketing to hook in those niave punters.
That's why warez groups & NoCD-ers do such a good job - you can try before you buy & if you like it then morally/legally you should purchase it. You try returning a game you bought at Game, etc - they couldn't care less about the fact the prodcut sucks or is programmed so poorly it frequently crashes on your rig, at the most they'll replace it for another copy of the same title. |
wtf is this or other similar posts got to do with this game? NOTHING!
stick to piracy threads for this. we want a mini-review of the game from somoeone, i aint dl all this to find out its shit on this crap 2mbit connection.....peace.
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 22:25 Post subject: |
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| TheBugulous wrote: | | vurt wrote: | | Games and music would be more versatile without piracy, im quite sure of that.. |
I don't think so - the main problem is the greed of these companies coupled with the ridiculously high wages that musicians like Madonna, etc command. If everyone bought their games, movies & music all that would happen is the companies blithely keeping the prices the same or raising them further. Ideally there has to be a watchdog that guarantees quality in a new title - so if a game comes out which is rubbish for 1 reason or another like Dungeon Lords, & 1 million people pre-ordered it, they should be reimbursed & the company fined. Overall, the industry couldn't care less about the customers - those plebs who fork out their hard-earned on a crummy product - what they are interested in is good marketing to hook in those niave punters.
That's why warez groups & NoCD-ers do such a good job - you can try before you buy & if you like it then morally/legally you should purchase it. You try returning a game you bought at Game, etc - they couldn't care less about the fact the prodcut sucks or is programmed so poorly it frequently crashes on your rig, at the most they'll replace it for another copy of the same title. |
EXACTLY!!!!!!! There have to be an electronic revolution soon, because people wont put up with that shit any longer (and they dont, see warez?)
If you buy a new car and it breaks down, you get spare parts of the insurance etc..
If you buy a new tv and it doesnt work or the image is all fucked up, you get a new one free of charge.
EVERYTHING that you buy you get to try first to make sure it is worth your money, but NOT electronic stuff, and that GOT TO CHANGE!
Every single time you wanna buy a movie or album or game you havent tried before (you are not allowed), you have no idea what you get, you PAY for something you have NO IDEA about.... Thats absolutely crazy and idiotic.
Would a farmer pay for 100 cows without a health inspection on them?
Would a car rental company pay for 10 volvo's without making sure they are not wrecked first?
Would a friggen restaurant make you pay for the meal you havent eaten yet?
NO.
I made my point, sorry to all the moderators about the off-topic shit
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 22:33 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | TheBugulous wrote: | | vurt wrote: | | Games and music would be more versatile without piracy, im quite sure of that.. |
I don't think so - the main problem is the greed of these companies coupled with the ridiculously high wages that musicians like Madonna, etc command. If everyone bought their games, movies & music all that would happen is the companies blithely keeping the prices the same or raising them further. Ideally there has to be a watchdog that guarantees quality in a new title - so if a game comes out which is rubbish for 1 reason or another like Dungeon Lords, & 1 million people pre-ordered it, they should be reimbursed & the company fined. Overall, the industry couldn't care less about the customers - those plebs who fork out their hard-earned on a crummy product - what they are interested in is good marketing to hook in those niave punters.
That's why warez groups & NoCD-ers do such a good job - you can try before you buy & if you like it then morally/legally you should purchase it. You try returning a game you bought at Game, etc - they couldn't care less about the fact the prodcut sucks or is programmed so poorly it frequently crashes on your rig, at the most they'll replace it for another copy of the same title. |
EXACTLY!!!!!!! There have to be an electronic revolution soon, because people wont put up with that shit any longer (and they dont, see warez?)
If you buy a new car and it breaks down, you get spare parts of the insurance etc..
If you buy a new tv and it doesnt work or the image is all fucked up, you get a new one free of charge.
EVERYTHING that you buy you get to try first to make sure it is worth your money, but NOT electronic stuff, and that GOT TO CHANGE!
Every single time you wanna buy a movie or album or game you havent tried before (you are not allowed), you have no idea what you get, you PAY for something you have NO IDEA about.... Thats absolutely crazy and idiotic.
Would a farmer pay for 100 cows without a health inspection on them?
Would a car rental company pay for 10 volvo's without making sure they are not wrecked first?
Would a friggen restaurant make you pay for the meal you havent eaten yet?
NO.
I made my point, sorry to all the moderators about the off-topic shit |
agree but would counter that with the fact that there are still small computer shops that will let you try out games and also companies could argue thats why they release demos. but i do agree with you all the way dude.
back on topic: get this or not?vote as you post saying get or not get(those that have it) so i can make an informed choice.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 22:53 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | TheBugulous wrote: | | vurt wrote: | | Games and music would be more versatile without piracy, im quite sure of that.. |
I don't think so - the main problem is the greed of these companies coupled with the ridiculously high wages that musicians like Madonna, etc command. If everyone bought their games, movies & music all that would happen is the companies blithely keeping the prices the same or raising them further. Ideally there has to be a watchdog that guarantees quality in a new title - so if a game comes out which is rubbish for 1 reason or another like Dungeon Lords, & 1 million people pre-ordered it, they should be reimbursed & the company fined. Overall, the industry couldn't care less about the customers - those plebs who fork out their hard-earned on a crummy product - what they are interested in is good marketing to hook in those niave punters.
That's why warez groups & NoCD-ers do such a good job - you can try before you buy & if you like it then morally/legally you should purchase it. You try returning a game you bought at Game, etc - they couldn't care less about the fact the prodcut sucks or is programmed so poorly it frequently crashes on your rig, at the most they'll replace it for another copy of the same title. |
EXACTLY!!!!!!! There have to be an electronic revolution soon, because people wont put up with that shit any longer (and they dont, see warez?)
If you buy a new car and it breaks down, you get spare parts of the insurance etc..
If you buy a new tv and it doesnt work or the image is all fucked up, you get a new one free of charge.
EVERYTHING that you buy you get to try first to make sure it is worth your money, but NOT electronic stuff, and that GOT TO CHANGE!
Every single time you wanna buy a movie or album or game you havent tried before (you are not allowed), you have no idea what you get, you PAY for something you have NO IDEA about.... Thats absolutely crazy and idiotic.
Would a farmer pay for 100 cows without a health inspection on them?
Would a car rental company pay for 10 volvo's without making sure they are not wrecked first?
Would a friggen restaurant make you pay for the meal you havent eaten yet?
NO.
I made my point, sorry to all the moderators about the off-topic shit |
Agree a bit with both, but with games you have well written reviews by many big gamereviewers and you also got demos but still agree som with what you say.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 23:18 Post subject: |
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| veseo wrote: | Just see the official site  That's imho the most original website, created for a videogame. By the way, move the pointer onto her breasts a few times and see what happens Real fun |
Didnt happen shit!
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 23:53 Post subject: |
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| TheBugulous wrote: | well played it for 20 minutes chapter1 houton - graphics are *bad* - looks like a filter is applied to gameplay. No options for AA, etc. Compared to the screen quality of D3 RoE this game is a joke. Control sucks - keys a-d rotate camera, right-click mouse to move, left-click to attack. Broke open 30 barrels & 0 treasures - killed rat & then king rat flamed my ass.
humour is good in the game but possibly overdone - the singing drunks go on & on. This thing was best done with Monkey Island - a classic. Game is 4.1Gb of sounds so I bet there is a *ton* of dialogue to get through <groan>. Levels are 3.1Gb which is suprising as the graphical quaity is low & blurry. Movies are LQ low quality - only 26Mb while normal movies are 106Mb.
just uninstalled this crapolio - & that was nice & quick - about 2 sec's as opposed to the install using DT off my SATA RAID0 drives which took 5 minutoes. Conclusion - unless you love oodles of dialogue, crappy graphics & a crappy control system - not worth the d/load ;-P |
thanks thats what i was looking for.wont bother now as too long for me to dl shite.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2005 01:09 Post subject: |
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For whoever asked about multi-language: English, German, French, Spanish. I was happy to see that the game had a 1GB install option too, not much point in doing a full install when you have the image mounted. No clue if it's any good yet; I installed it via remote desktop and can't play yet.
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2005 01:37 Post subject: |
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omg... I can't believe this shit isn't on newzbin yet
edit: this shit is absurd. The game is on fucking BitTorrent before it's on IRC?! fuck... what is the scene coming to
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2005 01:43 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | omg... I can't believe this shit isn't on newzbin yet
edit: this shit is absurd. The game is on fucking BitTorrent before it's on IRC?! fuck... what is the scene coming to |
well irc and bittorent both suck when it comes to scene stuff so what does it have to do with scene becoming to ?
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2005 01:48 Post subject: |
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| ShadowX wrote: | | Accelleron wrote: | omg... I can't believe this shit isn't on newzbin yet
edit: this shit is absurd. The game is on fucking BitTorrent before it's on IRC?! fuck... what is the scene coming to |
well irc and bittorent both suck when it comes to scene stuff so what does it have to do with scene becoming to ? |
Newsgroups should have it far before either IRC or BitTorrent. I use a good newsgroups server, and I could not find the NZB i needed at newzbin.com
Thus, I am commenting on the state of the scene as it applies to me. |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2005 02:10 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | | Newsgroups should have it far before either IRC or BitTorrent. I use a good newsgroups server, and I could not find the NZB i needed at newzbin.com |
Got it from news earlier today - crap game anyhow - DS2 will rule !! <i hope sic>
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2005 04:27 Post subject: |
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| ShadowX wrote: | | Accelleron wrote: | omg... I can't believe this shit isn't on newzbin yet
edit: this shit is absurd. The game is on fucking BitTorrent before it's on IRC?! fuck... what is the scene coming to |
well irc and bittorent both suck when it comes to scene stuff so what does it have to do with scene becoming to ? |
Other than this game, BT is usually fine for scene stuff. Its usually up almost at the same time its on ED2k. This one seems elusive..usually within a few hours of appearing on Nforce its on BT.
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