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 Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 19:19 Post subject: |
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i've nothing against my dear friend Sage386. Look at my message to him:
| lAmBaDa wrote: | | now we're close friends. |
he could be even my bros but actually i'd like to have sister. i'm fine if is comes to his presence here but i'd like him to stop defending starbitch with silly messages like "Real fixes came with some delay on the following games". first we've heard stories like "REAL CRACKS" from the scene and now he introduces "REAL FIXES". so REAL CRACK = not every broken protection but the protection with REAL FIXES. few weeks more and i'll hear LOW FIXES and SUPERB FIXES (the same to cracks).
and btw: i didn't say that he works in starbitch. i said that he's very close to them.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 10:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 13:06 Post subject: |
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| Freakshow wrote: | | bigboy177 wrote: |
Dont you think it's stupid to kill something you once created... It's like having a dog, feeding it, playing with it... and then just killing it just cause you want to... Tallented guys like them could write many other programs not stupid copy protections... but I guess it's simpler for them... After 100 years there will be 30 CP...  I don't think thay will earn much then...  |
like i said ... copy protectios and crypt algos and all this is first a hobby. if you get the chance to make your life paid with it then you take it. You cant always stand on 1 side and its a usal process since c64 that cracker come and later switch sites. A cracker isnt stupid. He always let the door open so that he can create updates and his company exist. noone needs a perfect protection becuase that would mean soner or later the coders arent needed. And sf3 let the door open. The main problem today is scene doesnt have much talent. It looks Reloaded skipped all protections beside sf3 what looks for me like its 1 cracker. Hoodlum does the rest. O in my eyes these both groups may have 3 or 4 guys in sum that do the cracks. In Old FLT/EV/RZR/IMS times it was always a cracking team for each group with about 5 guys but console destroyed the intrest in cracking becaus efor console atm there is noting a modchip couldnt bypass atm. So either console gets protection like sf3 and secu7 or we wont see new talent! |
I guess you are right, it is a constant process... It' natural for them to make money of their hobby... But... Now we have got few very strong protections but only three can be as strong as SF3: SR7, SF3 and XProtector... These companies will continue to exist over the years, but every retiring cracker will try to make a new one... So after some time there will be like 30 very strong protections, and most of them won't have anything to do... 
SF3 is now almost a perfect protection, cause when a publisher protects the game he can make it almost uncrackable, so even if there are holes... and cracker finds them they are of no use to him, cause the cracking process would take ages (unless ofcourse there are holes that can let crackers create generic tools ), so the protection won't need any upgrades soon... Most upgrades they do now, are the compatibility problems, some VM changes and stuff like that... soon the protection will reach a state when the coders are not needed anymore... And then an old saying will be acurate: The higher you get, the harder you drop...
About lack of new talent... You are right again... We can say that the scene is only a year old by now... Last year's FBI raids almost destroyed the scene, and now it must regenerate to state it was in before the raids... It's quite a natural process... Every group (flt,ims,rzr,dev) had few ppl at the begining, one cracker, maybe one coder... HLM, RLD, MON,VNG didn't start like them, but quite similary, so the new talent will come in time... and because of lack of releases of their favourite games...
I really hope that consoles will get SF3 or SR7, they destroyed almost everything in games... The quality of games is poor, the logic and complexity within games is non existant, and every kid leeches games, without even carring how they work... they probably even never used a calculator on a PC... they press power button, insert CD/DVD and after autorun pops up click play... It's really bad what consoles do to PC, but hopefully they will get SF3, SR7 or XP... At least I hope so... Then probably even more tallent will come to the scene...
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 13:30 Post subject: |
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SR7 is still easy now to create an 1:1copy so don't think it will do anything..
sf3 console groups then need to check into it but I am almost sure they would solve it pretty fast its not so an big problem for them.(also keep in mind they would use any crack possible probably an sort of 1:1 phool starforce crack) to play the sf3 xbox360 releases on HD will probably also take more time for them to acomplish .)
but anything is possible we have to wait and see.
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