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What I said is fact, even though it's sad.
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Fisk you've been acting really annoying lately and this is what really annoyed me. IT'S NOT A FACT AT ALL! IT'S YOUR OPINION!!! I hate when people think their opinion is the right one and try to convince people that they're right and everyone is wrong. Another example is the one with the recent Star Wars. You kept trying to convince people that it was a bad movie and shit. You didn't like it, other people did. It's all our opinion. It's never a fact.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 16:57 Post subject: |
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Oh, I'm sorry that the truth annoys you. That's life man.
Hayden Christensen doesn't become a good actor, no matter how much you like the guy. That's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact.
It's not like listening to complex Jazz-music, and saying "well, if you think this music sucks, it's a matter of opinion" - this is more like comparing a talented guitarist of 10 years, and someone who has played for two hours.
If you say the guy who has played for two hours is a better guitar player, it's your opinion all right, but the fact is the man can't play for shit. You just can't judge it properly.
Since this is probably going to be lost on you, I'll just say: You're entitled to your opinion, and I am to mine. However, when it concerns facts - you can argue all day/night, you just won't get anywhere. It's like trying to convince me that the number 1 is actually sometimes 1,5 ... "It's a matter of perspective/opinion".
People who like a certain actor are entitled to that - I know people who think (honestly) that Arnold Schwarzenegger is a really talented actor. And seriously believe that is true, and that their "opinion" counts as much as anyone elses on any actor.
Anyone who says Arnold Schwarzenegger is a more talented actor, than ie. Al Pacino is plain wrong - sure, you can have that opinion, nobody can take that away, but it's all a matter of fact.
Acting is about the illusion that one man, for instance Russel Crowe, really is someone else ... someone with a complete other life, a complete other set of body language, etc. - if you look at an actor in a movie and say: "Is that Russel Crowe? Man! I couldn't/did barely recognice him" that's the best compliment any actor can get ... why? Because that's the peak of acting.
Don't get me wrong, people like Liam Neeson, fit well into certain roles - because they have charisma, personality, and are rhetorically apt. But as long as they can't go beyond themselves, they aren't acting. They're just conveying dialogue in a convincing way.
If you claim that this is false, than you may go ahead and do so. This won't change the way you look at movies, nor will this change your opinion.
If your conviction is so weak, you have to throw a tantrum whenever someone proves you wrong, perhaps you should reconsider whether you might be mistaken?
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Injurious wrote: | | GP Force wrote: |
Ah yes I forgot it's a prequel, ehr I mean it's a new batman film not related to the other one's.
WOW, you've seen it 
how was the music? (I collect movie scores:D)
How was the actors, did bale do a good job? Do you think there will be a sequel, I mean was it that good?
Well I love burtman's batman, they are dark, they are great!!!  |
Bale doesn't dissapoint Never does.
The first time you see scarecrow in action you're like  OH MY GOD! And the visuals! When scarecrow does his 'work' (don't want to spoil) you really see how fear works it's SO FUCKING AWESOME!
Musical Score 
Better than Elfman. Elfman had only a few good muscial scores worth listening to after you finished watching the movie. The only good thing that came from the original batman musical score is the theme for the animated series
Nolan and Goyer said they have a trilogy planned and let me tell you that after watching this movie you would gladly sit through the next two. I mean this movie will put batman back on the map! If you're hardcore batman fan you'll love it. As a movie you'll love it
BEST BATMAN MOVIE! EVER!
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Wow tx for that mini review, Im glad you didn't spoil anything like some people tend to do
I must say im interested to see how wayne become's batman, I know his parents were murdered by jack (aka the clown) but I also wanna see how evrything evolves... BTW scarecrow? Jokes has been batman's no1 since dc comics started batman. who's scarecrow?
Well I like elfman's work, since I collect most score's I enjoy, batman return's is great, but im looking forward to the work of howard!
Now come little baby, arrive on the cinemas you must
@Fisk I was about to add a few more comments, but since your very narrow minded and think your own opinion is a fact/canon, I rather talk with someone who can have an open minded view and accept "hey it's my input it doesn't necessary mean im right.."
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 19:56 Post subject: |
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Um Joker didn't kill Bruce Wayne's parents. In batman 1... Burton did that just to tie the joker character to batman.
I won’t say much, you have to either read the comics or watch the movie to know who killed his parents =D
Scarecrow is a character that induces fear onto his enemies. Joker has his joker-gas (makes people laugh) Scarecrow has fear-gas (amplifies your fear)
And an opinion is something from your personal perspective.
If you know something about the topic like movies, music, etc you can easily say, through a fact, that one movie is better than the other.
Look at lotr series. 1, 2 and 3. Through idiots you can say that 2 3 are by far the best from the entire trilogy. (Opinions) but through simple analysis of these elements; character development, script, direction, visuals, everything... you can state, by a fact, that 1 is the best of the three.
Fisk may like a shitty movie that everyone hates and he could say that this movie is great. (that’s opinion) But when he says something like certain actors who can't act and are overrated he's right.
Freeman for example; in Danny the dog, Million Dollar Baby, The Big Bounce and Bruce Almighty he plays the exact same character. Different name but same shit.
Neeson or obi wan is exactly the same in KOH, episode 1 and batman. He plays a teacher. A convincing teacher (has the voice for it) but he still is the same character.
Some actors are like Steven Segal. They play the same character. The reason why others are more popular than Segal is because before they had to work for their roles, they played different characters, they had an acting ability. Segal just played the same character ever since he started. Now those popular actors play the same shit over and over because that’s what the public wants.
Look at de Niro. After goodfellas he’s been playing the same character over and over.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 20:14 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: | Um Joker didn't kill Bruce Wayne's parents. In batman 1... Burton did that just to tie the joker character to batman.
I won’t say much, you have to either read the comics or watch the movie to know who killed his parents =D
Scarecrow is a character that induces fear onto his enemies. Joker has his joker-gas (makes people laugh) Scarecrow has fear-gas (amplifies your fear)
And an opinion is something from your personal perspective.
If you know something about the topic like movies, music, etc you can easily say, through a fact, that one movie is better than the other.
Look at lotr series. 1, 2 and 3. Through idiots you can say that 2 3 are by far the best from the entire trilogy. (Opinions) but through simple analysis of these elements; character development, script, direction, visuals, everything... you can state, by a fact, that 1 is the best of the three.
Fisk may like a shitty movie that everyone hates and he could say that this movie is great. (that’s opinion) But when he says something like certain actors who can't act and are overrated he's right.
Freeman for example; in Danny the dog, Million Dollar Baby, The Big Bounce and Bruce Almighty he plays the exact same character. Different name but same shit.
Neeson or obi wan is exactly the same in KOH, episode 1 and batman. He plays a teacher. A convincing teacher (has the voice for it) but he still is the same character.
Some actors are like Steven Segal. They play the same character. The reason why others are more popular than Segal is because before they had to work for their roles, they played different characters, they had an acting ability. Segal just played the same character ever since he started. Now those popular actors play the same shit over and over because that’s what the public wants.
Look at de Niro. After goodfellas he’s been playing the same character over and over. |
I was talking about burtman's batman, but I thought the same thing happened in the dc comics, oh wel..
But no I don't agree, I think ROTK is the best of all 3, then again I love the whole trilogy, evry part has it's own specialty...
And no fisk isn't right, noir im I.... It's an opinion, arnold plays action/sci fi movies becauce that's his treat. I Wouldn't wanna se de niro as a terminator.
I can't follow your agruement how fisk is right.... If you like freeman that's it, nothing called fact or anything like that.... btw de niro, just do a check on imdb, his a guy who can take on several role's and become another person.
"Look at de Niro. After goodfellas he’s been playing the same character over and over"
Not really, (my favorite movie with de niro, Ronin 1998)
# Chaos (2006/I) (in production)
# The Good Shepherd (2005) (pre-production) .... James Wilson (older)
# Hide and Seek (2005) .... David Callaway
# The Bridge of San Luis Rey (2004) .... The Archbishop
... aka Puente de San Luis Rey, El (Spain)
# Meet the Fockers (2004) .... Jack Byrnes
# Shark Tale: Gettin' Fishy with It (2004) (TV) (voice) .... Don Lino/Himself
# Shark Tale (2004) (voice) .... Don Lino
# Godsend (2004) .... Richard Wells
... aka Adam (Canada: French title)
# Analyze That (2002) .... Paul Vitti
# City by the Sea (2002) .... Vincent LaMarca
... aka The Suspect (Philippines: English title)
# Showtime (2002) .... Det. Mitch Preston
# The Score (2001) .... Nick Wells
... aka The Score (Germany)
# 15 Minutes (2001) .... Detective Eddie Flemming
... aka 15 Minuten Ruhm (Germany)
# Meet the Parents (2000) .... Jack Byrnes
# Men of Honor (2000) .... Master Chief/Senior Chief/Chief Leslie W. 'Billy' Sunday
... aka Men of Honour (UK)
# The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle (2000) .... Fearless Leader
... aka Abenteuer von Rocky und Bullwinkle, Die (Germany)
# Flawless (1999) .... Walt Koontz
# Analyze This (1999) .... Paul Vitti
# Ronin (1998) .... Sam
# Great Expectations (1998) .... Arthur Lustig
# Jackie Brown (1997) .... Louis Gara
# Wag the Dog (1997) .... Conrad Brean
# Cop Land (1997) .... Lt. Moe Tilden
# Marvin's Room (1996) .... Dr. Wally
# Sleepers (1996) .... Father Bobby
# The Fan (1996) .... Gil Renard
# Heat
He was great in heat, the fan, cop land, ronin, and maybe meet the fockers, I didn't like ben stiller...
Once again, playing the same parts doesn't mean your a bad actor. Sylvester stallone is a good actor but his not a de niro noir any pacino material. Which doesn't mean his a bad actor.
Yeah I'll watch batman 
I just hope it will be on the cinemas soon
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K, most of his new movies he plays the same character  Not a big de niro fan  His best movies are; America, Taxi driver, Goodfellas, Brazil, Angel Heart, Raging Bull, Casino and Heat.
shark tale, meet the parents, meet the fockers, show time, Analyze That, Analyze This; same character.
City by the Sea, The Score, 15 minutes, Cop Land, The Fan, Men of Honor. Same character. I haven't see the rest of the movies listed
"But no I don't agree, I think ROTK is the best of all 3, then again I love the whole trilogy, evry part has it's own specialty..."
ROTK was a disaster Acting, directing (Jackson got paid for it, and just like Spielberg, he got to be in total control )
"And no fisk isn't right, noir im I.... It's an opinion, arnold plays action/sci fi movies becauce that's his treat. I Wouldn't wanna se de niro as a terminator."
That's because Arnold has the body for it. Heck, Dolph Lundgren would have made a convincing Terminator, or even today’s punisher, who no one thought would fit the role, but actually did a marvelous job, Thomas Jane.
"Once again, playing the same parts doesn't mean your a bad actor. Sylvester stallone is a good actor but his not a de niro noir any pacino material. Which doesn't mean his a bad actor."
Stallone got his career from rocky. After that he had a few 'decent' flicks. And no he's not a good actor.
Hmm after rocky I can't find a decent movie with him all he had were summer blockbusters, action packed shooters, heck Sly Stalone is the EA of action movies
He has his
Demolition Man, Cobra, Rambo(s), Judge Dredd… etc… just imdb him
-sorry for the scattered reply, I’m on the phone all day
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| Injurious wrote: | K, most of his new movies he plays the same character Not a big de niro fan His best movies are; America, Taxi driver, Goodfellas, Brazil, Angel Heart, Raging Bull, Casino and Heat.
shark tale, meet the parents, meet the fockers, show time, Analyze That, Analyze This; same character.
City by the Sea, The Score, 15 minutes, Cop Land, The Fan, Men of Honor. Same character. I haven't see the rest of the movies listed
"But no I don't agree, I think ROTK is the best of all 3, then again I love the whole trilogy, evry part has it's own specialty..."
ROTK was a disaster Acting, directing (Jackson got paid for it, and just like Spielberg, he got to be in total control )
"And no fisk isn't right, noir im I.... It's an opinion, arnold plays action/sci fi movies becauce that's his treat. I Wouldn't wanna se de niro as a terminator."
That's because Arnold has the body for it. Heck, Dolph Lundgren would have made a convincing Terminator, or even today’s punisher, who no one thought would fit the role, but actually did a marvelous job, Thomas Jane.
"Once again, playing the same parts doesn't mean your a bad actor. Sylvester stallone is a good actor but his not a de niro noir any pacino material. Which doesn't mean his a bad actor."
Stallone got his career from rocky. After that he had a few 'decent' flicks. And no he's not a good actor.
Hmm after rocky I can't find a decent movie with him all he had were summer blockbusters, action packed shooters, heck Sly Stalone is the EA of action movies
He has his
Demolition Man, Cobra, Rambo(s), Judge Dredd… etc… just imdb him
-sorry for the scattered reply, I’m on the phone all day |
ahhah I know what you mean
Advice, turn off your bloody phone or smash it
But no I still don't agree, ROTK is a masterpiece but im not like someone else , and say im right, it's canon/fact
No Dolph Lungdren wouldn't have done a better job. Yes im a huge Arnold Fan.
Hey you didn't mention Ronin one of my favorite de niro movies
"shark tale, meet the parents, meet the fockers, show time, Analyze That, Analyze This; same character."
Analyze that/this, Mob boss
Focker = ex CIA ,clearly not the same dude eh
"He has his
Demolition Man, Cobra, Rambo(s), Judge Dredd… etc… just imdb him " I think stallone did a few more goodie's then say 5-6 movies...
Also there's a few movies where's he gotta act instead saying 2 lines and just shoot... Rambo first blood is one of them.
Now..Hayden Christanson did a lousy/bad job in episode II, but I think he did a good job in episode III
Sure some actor's are very bad I can agree on that.
But I also think actors like arnold and sly are doing great in their genre. BTW "Arnold had the body for it" you think that's all? A reason why so many people have watched his movie's is because he brings something extra to the cinema, his not oldman noir de niro but he can convience the audience his another character.
Realise action/sci fi movie's demands good/professional actors
This isn't something new... I can understand why some people are saying arnold is bad actor compared to pacino, but I tend to say arnold is doing his job in his genre. Sure an actor is suppose to take on evry role, then again your not a bad actor of your staying in one genre.
Bad actors for me or those who read the lines badly, can't convience you their part etc etc
EDIT: Sorry for typo's and maybe some unlogicall lines, im getting drunk and now im off for the city
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"Analyze that/this, Mob boss
Focker = ex CIA ,clearly not the same dude eh"
Just for that you should be locked out of this thread 
"ROTK" Being your fav will make you SAY it is the BEST of all three. But if you compare them, 3 and 1, the first, fellowship, kicks its ASSSSSSSSSSSSS!
"No Dolph Lungdren wouldn't have done a better job. Yes im a huge Arnold Fan."
Have you seen him in universal soldier? GIve him a leather jacket, some specs, and a cool catch phrase and he'll make a dominating terminator
"Bad actors for me or those who read the lines badly, can't convience you their part etc etc"
And yet you praise hayden and his magnificent improvement in episode 3...
=P
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Gary Oldman has to have a mask of a thousand faces.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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[quote="Injurious"]"Analyze that/this, Mob boss
Focker = ex CIA ,clearly not the same dude eh"
Just for that you should be locked out of this thread
"ROTK" Being your fav will make you SAY it is the BEST of all three. But if you compare them, 3 and 1, the first, fellowship, kicks its ASSSSSSSSSSSSS!"
No that's your opinion, I take it you havent' read the books... The first book is a bit ligther, 2nd very dark, 3rd a bit dark but come's to an end and closure
"Have you seen him in universal soldier? GIve him a leather jacket, some specs, and a cool catch phrase and he'll make a dominating terminator "
No he wouldn't, because lundgren is a bad actor
"Bad actors for me or those who read the lines badly, can't convience you their part etc etc"
And yet you praise hayden and his magnificent improvement in episode 3...
yes and 
But as you said, back to topic
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"No that's your opinion, I take it you havent' read the books... The first book is a bit ligther, 2nd very dark, 3rd a bit dark but come's to an end and closure"
It's not only the story that makes a movie good. It's everything. The directing, the cinematography, the editing (which was horrible in the 3rd), acting (after fame of 1 and 2 the actors just read off of the paper in the 3rd one) There's a lot more that makes 3 bad.
"No he wouldn't, because lundgren is a bad actor"
When, arnie was working on the terminator, he didn't speak much anglais =P.
Dolph would have made a great terminator. I mean James Cameron could’ve turned Dolph into a great terminator
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 15:57 Post subject: |
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| Injurious wrote: | "No that's your opinion, I take it you havent' read the books... The first book is a bit ligther, 2nd very dark, 3rd a bit dark but come's to an end and closure"
It's not only the story that makes a movie good. It's everything. The directing, the cinematography, the editing (which was horrible in the 3rd), acting (after fame of 1 and 2 the actors just read off of the paper in the 3rd one) There's a lot more that makes 3 bad.
"No he wouldn't, because lundgren is a bad actor"
When, arnie was working on the terminator, he didn't speak much anglais =P.
Dolph would have made a great terminator. I mean James Cameron could’ve turned Dolph into a great terminator |
Omg no sir....There was no fame after 1 and 2,meaning alll 3 movies where shot directly... example while they were shooting fellowship they did a few rotk scene, as grey havens (end scene of ROTK). Only a few CGI scenes had to be shot after TTT. So it's basically one big movie pj shot. So you can't look at it as fotr was filmed in 2001 and ttt 2002 and rotk 2003, they were all shot in 1998-2001, also a few CGI scene's ended up being shot in 2002-03.
I've read the book's a few time's and from my view the ending was great, sad to  same thing in the book
Your the only one I've seen who doens't like ROTK, personally I can't understand why since you liked fort and ttt, but as you said let's stay on topic.
EDIT:Let's not discuss more LOTR please, let's stay on batman
Tx for the scarecrow info, what a creepy guy
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 20:31 Post subject: Re: tim burton |
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| RichyRich wrote: | I think Tim Burton did a fantastic job with casting and directing batman 1, however part 2 and the rest, which I know he didn't direct the rest of them lack realism which made it a bomb at the box office.
Character choice and plot did Batman 2 and all the clowns and what not, a little over the top imho.
I can't wait to see this one, I think it brings back more of that realistic feel to the series back. |
Yeah I also think burton did a great job with batman. But you got your fact's screwed up my friend.
Batman 1989 Directed by Tim Burton
Batman Returns 1992 Directed by Tim Burton
Made it a bomb at the box office?
I hardly think batman returns did bad in 1992, I personally think's it's better than the 1st one. Over the top, realism? It's based on a comic...
Batman Forever and batman and robin are horrible, and they were NOT directed by burton.
Batman 1 and 2 are my favorites, I haven't seen begins yet, but I doubt I will like it more then burton's view, who knows though
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According to IMDB Batman Returns made $162 million in the box office. Not a bomb at all.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 22:28 Post subject: Re: tim burton |
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| GP Force wrote: | | I hardly think batman returns did bad in 1992, I personally think's it's better than the 1st one. Over the top, realism? It's based on a comic... |
Something burton knows nothing about Twas far away from the comics. It had burtons style, dark and gritty. Watch any pre-94 and post-88 burton movie, put batman in it and you'll have batman 1 and 2.
He read the scripts, his producers showed him the comic books (which he didn't read) and he went on from there. He, burton, knows nothing about batman except for what he was told. That's a fact, not an opinion.
| GP Force wrote: | | Batman Forever and batman and robin are horrible, and they were NOT directed by burton. |
Batman forever with, kilmer, was better than batman and robin, with clooney. The only reason why they were horrible is because they didn't have the burton spark.
Which is a dark environment, a lot of dark filters, and such.
Most, if not all burton movies, are dark fairy tales that have a happy ending. Which is; the good guys falls in love with the hot girl and in the end he gets her. The bad guy loses... blah blah blah burton is a pg13 movie maker. Not saying his movies are BAD he has a FEW good ones; Ed Wood, Edward Scissorhands, and heck the first two batmans
| GP Force wrote: | | Batman 1 and 2 are my favorites, I haven't seen begins yet, but I doubt I will like it more then burton's view, who knows though |
You won't be disappointed.
But, if you expect Burton-style then you will. The style of this movie surpasses the Burton-style. It's darker, grittier and realistic =P either Love it or hate it =P
It's like Spiderman 2. A lot better than the first .
The first was more like a sci-fi take on Spiderman.
And the 2nd one showed everything about this superhero that made him human.
I mean near the end of Spiderman 2 your heart was pounding. You felt for the characters; Peter Parker and Mary Jane!
This is what you'll see in this movie. You won't just see what makes batman the dark knight of gotham, but you'll also see what makes Bruce Wayne. and that is what none of the older Batman’s showed. They focused mainly on telling a story about batman; a man in a cape hunting down the scum of Gotham.
I’m not saying you will LOVE this movie, but if you’re hardcore batman fan, YOU WILL. I don’t think you are though, a hardcore batman fan. You’re just a fan of Burton movies.
And it’s up to you to whether accept the fact that Burton’s take on batman was a complete fluke or hate batman begins because it’s not directed by Burton.
Cheers
hahe, batman returns made so much after the success of the first batman movie.
Look at matrix reloaded and revolutions. They made lots of money were they better than the original? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO vfx and sfx wise, yes, but after seeing the first and going onto the 2nd and the 3rd it feels like a totally different set of directors made these movies They, reloaded and revolutions, are the batman forever and batman and robin of the matrix saga.
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Hope SAOSiN will release a nice TC of this one soon.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 16:36 Post subject: Re: BATMAN BEGINS |
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| Injurious wrote: | any who I'm sure if BURTON went after the ORIGINAL comics you would have a totally different take on batman
 
Here's a 'true' version of batman http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060153/ =P
Batman the animated series were spawned after the first two movies. And much say that Burton had a lot influence on the style but that's bull shit =P
The style of comics that were out then had influence on the style of the movie and the toons.
Here, in batman begins, it’s fluid, vivid and darker =P
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I sure as hell hope batman begin's follows the "Dark Night" comic
Your confusing me friend. When I was a kid I read batman and spiderman. When I was around 11-12 I started to read batman in a more mature way, batman wasn't a blue masked character and robin didn't exsist.
I've always hated robin and the way batman looked sometimes, almost like superman, goodie tosho. Well this comic was called "Dark Night" I can't remember who did it
But im 100% it's what burton read, or at least followed. Because it looks like burtmans movies, the whole world is grim dark and lonely. The original DC comics is quite the OPPOSITE, just look at the tv series, all nice and happy.
Now I've only read batman dc and dark night, im not an expert noir do I pretend to be. But that dark night comic was so great. Batman had to fight evry day in his usual life (like us) he wasn't this superman, which he is portrayed in the dc comics...
Yeah I watched batman the tv series when I was a kid, it was funny but pretty much not the way batman should look, well it was based on the dc comics, I'll give em that.
"Dark Night"
Damn that comic was awesome, very dark, grimmy, and yes a burton view of batman. I hope batman begin's is nothing like the dc comic.
When I say dc comic I mean the way it was many years ago, Dunno who produced Dark Night....
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2005 19:12 Post subject: Re: BATMAN BEGINS |
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| Injurious wrote: | If Burton had a view on batman it would suck. Honestly! His movies are dark and grimy yes, but they are love fests. The good guy falls in love with the girl of his dreams, there's some struggle where he can't have her and in the end he gets her.
That makes an ideal batman? Come on! Batman is a lonely soul! He'll fuck what moves, but he can't relate to anyone! He's afraid of loving people!
The only thing Burton view on batman and batman dark knight have in common is his style!
http://www.comics.org/series.lasso?SeriesID=3809 here's 'legends of the dark knight"
http://www.comics.org/series.lasso?SeriesID=4378
and here's Batman: legends of the dark knight. It's a continuation of the prior one under a different name =P
Also the series weren't bad at all. They had the style and they made batman this great hero! =P
And once again, cause you didn't get it: Burton did not read any of the batman comics! He's one of those directors who have to have his own view, and his own idea on how to make a movie! He was told who batman was. What he wore and shit, but he never read any of the comics. He knows nothing about batman except for what he was told. Don't give him so much credit!
He didn't watch the original planet of the apes because he thought it would cloud his judgment on making a remake. He didn't read the planet of the ape’s comic books. He read NOTHING! And you saw what he made? It had the dark, grimy, style all his movies have... but... the movie sucked!
He's all about style! Once in a while he'll make a good movie. |
ROFL, I tend to like burtman's view on batman, and what are you talking about? His lonely, all his gf either dies or leave's him, happened in batman and batman returns.
I haven't seen begins but so far burton is the no1 choice for a batman director. When I read your comment's I get the idea you didn't like batman and batman returns
They are dark, grimmy, and lonely. They way it should be if you ask me. BTW Tx for those link's, shit it was dc as well who did the comics
I love em, But today it's pointless to start buying the magazine's, the old one's are probably worth a fortune. Well I could buy the new one's I guess...
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