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Can some tell me what happend with SC:Chaos Theory crack and who working on it?!
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| Posted: Tue, 7th Jun 2005 20:09 Post subject: |
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i don't have any info about it...
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Jun 2005 17:58 Post subject: |
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| swnny wrote: | | Can some tell me what happend with SC:Chaos Theory crack and who working on it?! |
according to a Silentgate release what got pasted here DIE works on it but i dont think you will see a crack, esp not for the latest patch.
nice new stuff in it whats lovely copied from other protections again.
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sage386
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Jun 2005 15:13 Post subject: |
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| Freakshow wrote: |
nice new stuff in it whats lovely copied from other protections again. |
Quite interesting. In fact, SF in general remains all the same since v3. And reality is that other protections slowy move toward SF.
(for example some of them introduced VMs and functions decompilation)
Anyway, antidebugging techniques and obfuscation tricks were known for ages.
Implementation - that makes the difference.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 13:29 Post subject: |
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Reloaded did "AREA 51" tonight...it's Starforce 3 protected but, as always, i don't knows if it's a BIG SF3 & i don't know if they found demo files or something....
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sage386
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 15:00 Post subject: |
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I cannot help you guys, cause i don't know nothing about it.... but the technical problem seems to be the important one!
Cause if we know wich type of SF3, real cracked or using demo files, we will understand if they are making progress with sf3 protec...
& i hope they will find things!!!
Reloaded are pretty good no?
Hope they will understand it, step by step!!
For what you have seen with them last sf3 releases, do you thing they are making progress guys???
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 16:50 Post subject: starforce progress |
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| zteam2 wrote: | | For what you have seen with them last sf3 releases, do you thing they are making progress guys??? |
I think that Reloaded made some progress but are still far away from ULTiMA wizards. Maybe ULTiMA will come back again, despite their message in Colin info "do not count on us for each starforce title".
They are the only one who proved to be able to crack what and when they want. Also they did not touch any other protection except starforce (it's clear that they may crack whatever protection) so i guess they might be back if scene will fail again. Maybe they will be back with the same screenshots of forums saying "starforce is not crackable".
Reloaded is doing good but that's not enough to beat beasts like Splinter Cell CT and Trackmania. Maybe if they would join with Hoodlum and share experience, who knows.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 17:50 Post subject: |
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everybody praise Ultima so much hehe whats so special about them probably cause of theire cool installers....and sound and gfx, but if we take a look at theire crack then we see that the Reloaded / Die sf3 cracks are superior to Ultima theire cracks...
any crack is welcome ofcourse but I prever an REAL nocdcrack . then an Ultima driver crack.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 18:02 Post subject: |
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Their multimedia stuff was great indeed (BTW: ULTiMA was the first one with own installer, graph and muzax or there was someone other? I don't know and am curious) but that was just an addition to their cracks.
Please remember they first cracked Xpand only. When starforce claimed that it was a hole and it has been fixed - they came again and cracked 'fixed' starforce (others weren't able to crack both of these titles).
If you say 'REAL crack' then i don't care. ULTiMA did it great and with hell funny show. I was ROFLMAO while watching messages to starforce and forum screenshots. I would be happy for ANY STARFORCE KILLING CRACK, from ANY group. Even clone. I think clones are the best solution (you can always patch the game without crack).
Hope the newest Daemon Tools will deal with starforce for long time.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 18:05 Post subject: |
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get your facts straight sentex.. Ultima didnt *crack* it.. they took advantage of a hole in the protection which now has been patched.
the day people who have no idea how sf3 works stfu, i'll spend the rest of my life cracking sf3 games..
there's no experience to share.. it's just time consuming
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 18:31 Post subject: Re: starforce progress |
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| Quote: | | Reloaded is doing good but that's not enough to beat beasts like Splinter Cell CT and Trackmania. Maybe if they would join with Hoodlum and share experience, who knows. |
has hoodlum ever cracked starforce?
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 18:41 Post subject: |
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probably not. it seems that Hoodlum is specialized in Securom + Safedisc and Reloaded likes Starforce.
i'd agree with sentex.
| Quote: | | You say "the protection now has been patched"? Did you read my previous post? The same said starforce devs after ULTiMA cracked Xpand. Sorry but if starforce devs were wrong then i just cannot believe your words (but i respect your opinion), even if you are starforce dev |
well said. we shouldn't even say such words after seeing Starforce authors being so wrong.
personally I belive that Ultima, Reloaded and DIE specializes in Starforce. If only these three could work together.....
| Quote: | I would be happy for ANY STARFORCE KILLING CRACK, from ANY group. Even clone. I think clones are the best solution (you can always patch the game without crack).
Hope the newest Daemon Tools will deal with starforce for long time. |
The same here: well said.
BIG THANKS AND GOOD LUCK FOR ALL THE HARDWORKING LADS IN THE SCENE. THEY DESERVE OUR RESPECT.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 19:07 Post subject: Re: starforce progress |
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| jaapie18 wrote: | | Quote: | | Reloaded is doing good but that's not enough to beat beasts like Splinter Cell CT and Trackmania. Maybe if they would join with Hoodlum and share experience, who knows. |
has hoodlum ever cracked starforce? |
Yes, Will Of Steel for instance.
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probably not. it seems that Hoodlum is specialized in Securom + Safedisc and Reloaded likes Starforce.
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I dont think its matter of specialization. Reloaded got the stuff for Securom + SD, aswell. Its all about who gets it first.
What i have understoof about sf, its not about that the groups wouldnt know what to do. Its just about time and the work that has to be done. If there arent any flaws, which could be exploited, i guess these groups should hire some chinese guys, who work 24/7. ( no offence to chinese )
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 19:15 Post subject: Re: starforce progress |
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| numero wrote: | | If there arent any flaws, which could be exploited, i guess these groups should hire some chinese guys, who work 24/7. ( no offence to chinese ) |
hah, nice one but seriously... Chinese don't work for low salaries only, they have very big knowledge about cracking stuffs and maybe they could do it.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 19:19 Post subject: Re: starforce progress |
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| numero wrote: | | jaapie18 wrote: | | has hoodlum ever cracked starforce? |
Yes, Will Of Steel for instance.
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You mean this one: http://www.nfohump.com/index.php?m=nfo&id=87014 ?
The HLM release of Will of Steel was nuked for "not.cracked". Their only SF3 crack is Santa Claus in Trouble again, but it didnt work for many ppl, including me.
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 19:30 Post subject: |
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Guys, don't start it again...
It doesn't matter who cracked it but WHAT they cracked. The bitch is called Starforce and let's kill it.
We don't need another Hoodlum vs. Reloaded war. Both of these groups are great.
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sage386
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| Posted: Fri, 10th Jun 2005 22:22 Post subject: |
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| sentex wrote: | | Please remember they first cracked Xpand only. When starforce claimed that it was a hole and it has been fixed - they came again and cracked 'fixed' starforce (others weren't able to crack both of these titles). |
Btw, FYI 'fixed' version they've cracked had exactly the same 'hole'.
It was the same version of SF (altough the build number might be different) and the same style crack.
Real fixes came with some delay on the following games.
kind regards alex // cyberware, ucf, ex-sf.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 00:33 Post subject: |
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| sage386 wrote: | | sentex wrote: | | Please remember they first cracked Xpand only. When starforce claimed that it was a hole and it has been fixed - they came again and cracked 'fixed' starforce (others weren't able to crack both of these titles). |
Btw, FYI 'fixed' version they've cracked had exactly the same 'hole'.
It was the same version of SF (altough the build number might be different) and the same style crack.
Real fixes came with some delay on the following games. |
well well well.... who do we've here to rate scene's cracks and defend starcrap? Mr. Sage386 (386? are you 16-bit?). your defense of starcrap intrigued me.... .....really!
Sentex said the following (not to you of course):
| Quote: | | Sorry but if starforce devs were wrong then i just cannot believe your words (but i respect your opinion), even if you are starforce dev |
@Sentex
did you know you almost forecasted the future? Mr. Sage386 is not starcrap developer but very, very close to them. aren't you, dear Sage386? tell us if you have NOTHING COMMON with starcrap?
maybe instead of talking nonsenses (sorry but you just did it with your latest post.... while building another fairytale to understimate starcrap cracks) could you tell us why do you defend starcrap (and PLEEEEASE, don't even tell me you aren't defending it because i'm not talking about nforce only)?
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sage386
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 01:13 Post subject: |
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it doesn't hurt me but i've enough of your silly starcrap defense. you know what i mean (not nforce)
| Quote: | | lAmBaDa, i80386 is a 32-bit processor |
i didn't know because i'm not so close with starcrap experts like you are. thanks pal, it looks like i own you something now:
for example: do u remember your words defending starforce (as always) by saying that all CD.DVD protections use drivers (you didn't say it on nforce and i've no proof but u know you said it..... damn! am i gooood?)? let me tell you that you were wrong, ask starcrap masters why.
now we're close friends.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2005 18:08 Post subject: |
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it wont help you as it doesnt use apis so you can not even copy apis from it if you would want to ... and protected data files = always hard as you have to "guess" the right filenames and location in install directory.
