[Wii] Xenoblade Chronicles
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Gvaz




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 15:35    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Console RPG, yes definitely!


I think it's a lot better than most PC Rpgs as well.

Also there's a rumor Xenoblade is coming to america as a GS exclusive

edit: no longer a rumor, it's coming.
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Boognish




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 19:58    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
So is it truly the best RPG of the decade? Laughing


Debatable... but best JRPG? Unequivocally.
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shadow_D




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 20:48    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The Wii-U plays Wii titles, so developers won't be dropping the Wii any time soon.


Yes true, but still I think the Wii would had developed a lot different if we got a Zelda game like Skyward sword and a RPG like Xenoblade in the dawning of its era. The developers haven't been confident with the Wii to make other games then causual ones for families. I think they would had if we got games of this quality in the begining.
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Nailbiter
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Dec 2011 21:09    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The Wii-U plays Wii titles, so developers won't be dropping the Wii any time soon.


But they already did? Razz

That's why it's so sweet when something good actually still comes out.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2011 22:49    Post subject:
*prods and pokes Gvaz*

Any chance of some help, please?

sabin1981 wrote:

Do you have a link to a recent patched HLE build, please? Trying to keep track of which ones are which is a royal PITA.


I'm getting tired of HLE causing sound distortion randomly... and LLE causing sound distortion when the framerate drops below 30.
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Bispoo




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2011 23:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:

I'm getting tired of HLE causing sound distortion randomly... and LLE causing sound distortion when the framerate drops below 30.


same here... so i just bought a wii, softmodded it, transfered save from dolphin to wii, and im all set! Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Dec 2011 23:29    Post subject:
I've already got a Wii, but I prefer playing at my desk and with much improved visuals Very Happy In the meantime, I've dropped back from 3.0-204 to 3.0-96filthy as that has the Xenoblade 3.1 HLE patch applied.
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Gvaz




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2011 02:51    Post subject:
sabin I found this one of an old build

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B-z4n7-OKal-ZWExYzg1NTctMTg4Ny00ZTkwLTk3NDMtODk1NWJkYWQ2NGE3&hl=en_US

but I know of no newer versions atm
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2011 02:56    Post subject:
I already have that one and 3.0-96. I don't think Filthy has compiled any of his optimised builds using the latest SVNs, the last one being 96. Ah well. Thanks though =)
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Gvaz




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Dec 2011 04:05    Post subject:
Yeah I haven't seen filthy post much on SA lately.
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Grouch




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2011 00:56    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I've already got a Wii, but I prefer playing at my desk and with much improved visuals Very Happy In the meantime, I've dropped back from 3.0-204 to 3.0-96filthy as that has the Xenoblade 3.1 HLE patch applied.

Not sure if this will help you Sabin, but as I posted a few pages back, I'm using Lectrocode's build Dolphin-3.0-[r7617]_x86_ICC_L102. It takes roughly 5 to 6 hours of continuous play, for me at least, before the sound starts to go mental.

And no, there is absolutely no need to grind for the main quest at all. In fact the gameplay is a lot more challenging without grinding. Just keep in mind that tension, agility, and night vision are all important, which you should pick up materials for(assuming you don't run away from every encounter) while traversing the vast landscape for the main quest, and doing minimal side quest.

I've only ever really liked 5 or so JRPGs before 2011(I'm in my mid 40's and pretty much exclusively play RPGs) and in 2011 I get to 2 outstanding JRPG's(Xenoblade + Radiant Historia) within 6 months on each other.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Dec 2011 00:59    Post subject:
Excellent stuff, thanks grouch but it's ok - I'm on 96filthy right now and it has been good as gold in HLE mode. The only fights I ignore are the ones where enemies are more than 5 levels under me, as the gain simply isn't worth the time - unless I'm hunting for items/armour Very Happy
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 10:27    Post subject:
This game is really one of the best JRPGs ever created. After about 50 hours im in Mechonis inside i think. Where all those switches for the elevators are. I don't like the music in this area, feels a bit too retro Very Happy

And what party members are you using?

Shulk, Melia and Dunban is a great team. But for bosses i take Sharla instead of Melia for the heals!


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 15:23    Post subject:
I'm actually just about to head over to Mechonis, I'm currently 49hrs in, lv48, and exploring the ice fields on Bionis Arm/Elbow. Man, this game is fucking ACE. It's beyond epic Very Happy Right now I'm using Shulk, Melia and Dunban -- and, like you, I swap Sharla in for bosses due to her excellent healing abilities. That's one of my pet peeves about Melia; she's a fucking MAGIC USER.. and the only heal spell she has is one that sacrifices 20% of her own HP to heal others. Sharla is an attack dog, yet she has fantastic healing and buffing talents.

Go figure Very Happy

Nonetheless, I friggin' love this game!!
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 17:05    Post subject:
Sain, how the hell do you combine this with Skyrim? After Skyrim I completely stopped palying Xenoblade Sad Both games eat up time.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 17:58    Post subject:
I don't, mate. For me it was the opposite; I took a break from Skyrim (88hrs++ and still only explored three main towns) before I ended up burning out and resenting the game ... only to jump head first into another bloody epic in Xenoblade grinhurt Once I've finished Xeno, I'll go back to Skyrim Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 19:18    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Excellent stuff, thanks grouch but it's ok - I'm on 96filthy right now and it has been good as gold in HLE mode. The only fights I ignore are the ones where enemies are more than 5 levels under me, as the gain simply isn't worth the time - unless I'm hunting for items/armour Very Happy

Thanks for this Sabin. I just installed this on my niece's computer(I donated my old comp, Q9550 + ATI 4870) and this is a really solid build.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Dec 2011 19:20    Post subject:
Thank "filthy" on the Dolphin forums, he's the guy behind the excellent compile - also thank Mylek for the excellent HLE audio hack. Seriously improved performance from using HLE instead of LLE (though I'm still smarting about that, my rig shouldn't need extra tweaks) and no more horrid audio distortion from using HLE either.

Good stuff Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Dec 2011 07:08    Post subject:
58hrs in now, Lv54 for everyone ... another 9 hour marathon session down Laughing This game is like digital crack!

Just one more level! Just one more unique boss! Just one more heart-to-heart! Just one more collectopaedia page! Just one more hour!


... well now it's time for bed. Heh, this is terrible. 7:24am and I'm just goint to bed >_<
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 04:10    Post subject:
Lv58, 62hrs in, game just gets better and better! Hello 7th <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 My party choice has changed radically now... Now it's Shulk/Dunban/7th because for damage output? This is just godly. Even the story is getting better now that it's starting to fall into place, though the emo factor went up quite a lot, I'm finally starting to get a handle on exactly what's going on Very Happy



I can NEVER get enough of hearing that track. One of my favourites in an already-magnificent OST.
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 10:16    Post subject:
Yea the game music for the most time is really great.
I also tried Shulk/Dunban/7th as soon as i got it. Damage was good, but i couldn't really get that group to do well against some enemies. Mainly because of pretty much no heal/decurse etc.

Also some hours from now on, you will find out a twist in story regarding both titans Wink

I also cheated a bit, for max friendship between the members and unlocked all skill trees Laughing
Too much grind it would be then. Played for about 58hours now and level 69 i think.
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 10:59    Post subject:
Grouch wrote:
Shulk/Reyn/Sharla - best defense...you'll rarely, if ever, die. But even random encounters 'at level' will be slow.

Dunban(or7th)/5th/6th - best combination of physical and ether attacks, with decent healing.

5th/6th/7th - Best dps against elementals(or enemies with super high physical defense).

Shulk/Dunban/7th - Absolutely the best DPS team with or without abusing topple mechanic against anything but the elementals, which just happens to be 99% of the story bosses and optional bosses.

...and on and on.

Spot healing becomes unnecessary later on when you have skills that, for instance heals when you do a critical, or whole party heals after chain attack or during burst affinity, etc.

Quoting myself cause I'm too lazy to retype. When you've gemmed/specced for tension/agility high enough, chain topple becomes key when you're significantly lower level. Healing isn't really an issue anymore when a boss is barely upright during a fight.
And chain topple never really get old Smile.

Hardest boss in the the entire game at 20+ levels lower. This without even using Daze, just break/topple.
Grouch wrote:
Killed that dragon starting at Level 93 when I finally got all the gems/skills I wanted for the fight. I'm uploading a video I just recorded earlier before I completed the game with my party at 97. At this point, the fight is really trivial.

Warning!!!Video contains spoilers about 7th party member.

(No audio)

(Full Video and audio)
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 11:36    Post subject:
Sabin, are you still using the build you recommended me in this thread? The more you progress the more soundglitches you get Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 13:56    Post subject:
All three of my main party members have Initial Tension V - Dunban has VI - as well as being gemmed for 150+ Agility each - Dunban actually has 195 agility AND a skill link reducing his armour weigh by 5, which means he has 0 armour weight due to light armour equip. As far as I know, it's the weight that governs his abilities, so the 30% bonus to agility should still apply.

If not? No matter, he's still a monster anyhow Very Happy

@Mister_s

Yeah, I'm still using 3.0-96-dirty. No sound problems here =)
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 16:41    Post subject:
Each unit of weight from armor reduces agility the corresponding amount. A character with heavy armor weighing 10 units would loose 10 agility, so weight reduction skill links are of benefit. In contrast lighter armor wearers with less than 5 units of weight would benefit more from the +5/+10 agility link.


FUN FACT The 7th party members Talent Art(big circle in the middle of talent bar) can be changed by changing drones(foot armor in equipment screen, but wing location in the character screen). Sword drones do multiple hit physical attacks, while cannon drones do a wave motion gun like ether attack; all the rest do somewhere in between.
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Dec 2011 17:53    Post subject:
I'll be looking for Sword drones, absolutely. Rather hit one enemy for 10 huge attacks, then 3 enemies for 1 weaker attack.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 19:28    Post subject:
Finally finished it at level 81 after around 70 hours i think.
What a really great game this is!
The last few hours were the best ones, with some cool twists!
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Definately one of the best JRPGs out.
Here are some screenshots i made during my playthrough:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970789577/screenshots/?tab=&showdate=1&filter=shortcut_55822
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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Dec 2011 12:11    Post subject:
acRon_ wrote:
Finally finished it at level 81 after around 70 hours i think.
What a really great game this is!
The last few hours were the best ones, with some cool twists!

Great! I hope you remembered to
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acRon_ wrote:
Definately one of the best JRPGs out.
Here are some screenshots i made during my playthrough:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970789577/screenshots/?tab=&showdate=1&filter=shortcut_55822

Those are awesome screenies; I can never get shots as well as those. I think Monolith deserves a lot of praise for getting such great looking graphics/art style in such huge zones on the Wii...ON THE WII!

I'm not a big JRPG fan, but Bethesda can take lessons from Monolith with regards to diversity in zones/enemies. It's also ironic, that Xenoblade(console exclusive) has better inventory management(left-to-right category list,, sortable within category, etc.) than Skyrim(PC) and The Witcher 2. I would love to have played this on PC with proper kb/mouse controls and hotkeys.

Here's to hoping Curt Shillings game is as good as this one. Gameplay looks very similar minus the party.
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Dec 2011 12:33    Post subject:
Eh? As good as this game is, there isn't that much diversity in enemies and zones. The diversity you speak of is just using the same assets, which are low in variety, in a different package now and then. Both aspects are also very low detailed. Comparing the Witcher 2 or Skyrim to this game on the technical aspect is extremely skewed.
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Wed, 14th Dec 2011 13:36    Post subject:
Grouch wrote:

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Grouch wrote:

Those are awesome screenies; I can never get shots as well as those. I think Monolith deserves a lot of praise for getting such great looking graphics/art style in such huge zones on the Wii...ON THE WII!

Thanks Smile
I like taking screenshots. As you can see at my other nearly 1400 screenshots taken in Steam Laughing
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