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| Gvaz wrote: | I've been in the beta for a few months
I've been waiting to say it:
It's bad. |
Care to elaborate, whats bad? Dont you like the gfx or is it boring to play? Hows the story arch for the type of char you played?
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:36 Post subject: |
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so... i'm invited in the full-time beta and i need to wait the WE?
what. the. fuck.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:38 Post subject: |
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I wasn't aware there was a full time beta currently. Any invite last week is for the weekend stress test
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:38 Post subject: |
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What full-time beta? There is no FT beta, it's all weekend stuff as far as I was aware.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:40 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | What full-time beta? There is no FT beta, it's all weekend stuff as far as I was aware. |
Nah, there's been a full time beta going on for ages.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:40 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | What full-time beta? There is no FT beta, it's all weekend stuff as far as I was aware. |
People like TB has fulltime access, the mass invite one is weekend only.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:41 Post subject: |
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Been registered for SW TOR since day one. I never got invited to ANY beta ,_,. EA cunts.
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Guyver
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:43 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | What full-time beta? There is no FT beta, it's all weekend stuff as far as I was aware. |
are you sure?
i remember 2 type of invites for TOR: 1 for stress test and 1 for every stress test and whenever the server was up.
maybe im getting too old...  |
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Guyver
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 21:50 Post subject: |
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well, just realized that MY invite its WE stress shit.
i've got tricked by the NON date displayed inside the mail, but testing forums answered that. 
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 23:10 Post subject: |
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One noob question. Can client download be stopped/paused and then resumed later ? Don't want to leave comp turned on whole night and day.
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Nov 2011 23:51 Post subject: |
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| Flagship wrote: | | One noob question. Can client download be stopped/paused and then resumed later ? Don't want to leave comp turned on whole night and day. |
yeah, there is pause button and it will resume. |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 00:09 Post subject: |
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www.swtor.com/tester is now online again with download client option etc.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 01:11 Post subject: |
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Gvaz
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 01:54 Post subject: |
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I played till mid 20s because that's all I had time to do between invite and a char wipe, and after the char wipe I had zero interest in the beta after that, especially after 30 hours or so of learning the mechanics and style.
I did not give a fuck about most of the voice acting and feel it's just padding most of the time. Dialogue options and script feels a whole lot like DA2 which I hated, as well as in the effect your character has on the world (none, there's no phasing)
I played a combat sentinel who even with appropriate gear and rotation (if you could call it that) was like some shitty fury warrior rogue and I hated it so much. I know I'd want to be a healer, so I started that up the other day on the newest build and it was like night and day (sub lvl 10 comparison since I didn't have time to level the sage up) in terms of fighting and downtime (read zero).
Once you get your companion it's even easier, but I hear they may have made it harder once you get your dude.
Flashpoints were neat but like WOTLK linear (think Caverns of Time linear or the Halls of Reflection, but with the length of such dungeons as The Old Kingdom ) with really simple bosses that dumbass pubbies still died from even though it was fucking obvious. Oh the boss is doing a gravity well? I haven't seen THAT before a million billion times in wow dungeons/raids, time to move out of the way *half the group dies* so I bet they'll nerf it for the retards who can't pay attention to super simple mechanics.
But then it got really grating when you did it more than once, and there was always that one or two guys who had to stop and listen to the whole thing holding the group back. No I don't want to hear the same shit AGAIN, go away, pick your choices and get out so I can go quest and do other things
The cutscenes were all pretty janky and formulamatic, and in the interest of saving money they retconned sullistans to be humanoid instead of short fat things, and somehow they can suddenly speak galactic basic. They, along with kids, use the same skeleton, just stretched. It looks stupid.
I liked things like BONUS QUESTS which were "kill x number of dudes you were going to kill anyways give or take like 5-10 mobs you would have otherwise ignored"
The combat itself was kind of interesting at first, it feels more reactionary than wow in terms of animations though wow does something similar but only on blocking. This does it all the time. No auto attack though which is kind of a downer but ignorable. Without one it makes combat feel more spammy than usual, especially with an obvious latency (which they seem to finally inputted a queue thing for abilities to alleviate that)
Environments were pretty, but nothing really important, like at times you can go "oh that piece of art looks nice" or "this is some nice composition" but in general they either look too busy or they just feel lifeless.
Performance has come along way, it used to run like horseshit but now it runs pretty decently on max settings, and once the debugger is off that should give you like 5-10 fps
There are good ideas such as making companions do the crafting for you, and ala torchlight selling your greys so you don't have to backtrack several times throughout.
The UI is total horseshit though, it's coming along slowly. Can't wait for UI mods to minimalize all the stupid fluff it has going on for the sake of looking unique.
Holocrons in the world (which are really just large maps, not seemless zones like Azeroth) are interesting, but they wanted to keep them a secret because it was a Big Thing. Except even though some are useless to your class everyone's going to want to get ALL OF THEM. Some of them you have to platform a bit to do, which is kind of frustrating at times because of the level design and it's hard to tell where one thing ends that you could walk through to get to something else. It's like putting a flag in ACB that you have to go through a restricted area and up and around some buildings to get only to find it was the next level down.
PVP, other than the fact I hate pvp except as a time waster (lol), was decent on void? (the space ship one) but absolutely terrible on huttball. Like Warsong Gulch bad. We had level 16 vs level 50s in a scaled down version. Of course it doesn't remove their abilities so they'd be using lvl 50 abilities and techniques vs others who don't even have such options. I didn't play the other one
Ship flying was like a retarded star fox that once you get upgrades nothing is a challenge anymore, but until you have upgrades you have to slog through and grind to be able to complete all the challenges instead of just surviving till the end.
Modifications are a good improvement, but now you can reuse mods? even better! I hated wasting a mod only to replace it with my next quest.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 02:06 Post subject: |
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auto attack is not as big a thing in wow either :
Mage (all), Priest (all), Warlock (all), Shaman (ele/resto), Druid (balance/resto), Paladin (healer)
dont use auto attack at all.
Melee classes/talents' auto-attack damage output is usually slim to none (very VERY low percentage in pve and basicly none in pvp).
Only class that actually uses auto-attack is Hunter lol.
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Gvaz
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 02:36 Post subject: |
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yeah thats slim. since 70-85% are coming from skills ...
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Gvaz
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 02:56 Post subject: |
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If you were doing 20k dps and took out the 20%~ auto attack that's like 4,000 dps you're losing
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Sin317
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 03:20 Post subject: |
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| Gvaz wrote: | | If you were doing 20k dps and took out the 20%~ auto attack that's like 4,000 dps you're losing |
i dont think you fully got my point.
doesnt matter.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 05:58 Post subject: |
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| Gvaz wrote: | | If you were doing 20k dps and took out the 20%~ auto attack that's like 4,000 dps you're losing |
So what? Your skills would just be buffed by a flat 20% to compensate. Auto-attack really is meaningless.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 08:57 Post subject: |
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| Gvaz wrote: | I played till mid 20s because that's all I had time to do between invite and a char wipe, and after the char wipe I had zero interest in the beta after that, especially after 30 hours or so of learning the mechanics and style.
I did not give a fuck about most of the voice acting and feel it's just padding most of the time. Dialogue options and script feels a whole lot like DA2 which I hated, as well as in the effect your character has on the world (none, there's no phasing)
I played a combat sentinel who even with appropriate gear and rotation (if you could call it that) was like some shitty fury warrior rogue and I hated it so much. I know I'd want to be a healer, so I started that up the other day on the newest build and it was like night and day (sub lvl 10 comparison since I didn't have time to level the sage up) in terms of fighting and downtime (read zero).
Once you get your companion it's even easier, but I hear they may have made it harder once you get your dude.
Flashpoints were neat but like WOTLK linear (think Caverns of Time linear or the Halls of Reflection, but with the length of such dungeons as The Old Kingdom ) with really simple bosses that dumbass pubbies still died from even though it was fucking obvious. Oh the boss is doing a gravity well? I haven't seen THAT before a million billion times in wow dungeons/raids, time to move out of the way *half the group dies* so I bet they'll nerf it for the retards who can't pay attention to super simple mechanics.
But then it got really grating when you did it more than once, and there was always that one or two guys who had to stop and listen to the whole thing holding the group back. No I don't want to hear the same shit AGAIN, go away, pick your choices and get out so I can go quest and do other things
The cutscenes were all pretty janky and formulamatic, and in the interest of saving money they retconned sullistans to be humanoid instead of short fat things, and somehow they can suddenly speak galactic basic. They, along with kids, use the same skeleton, just stretched. It looks stupid.
I liked things like BONUS QUESTS which were "kill x number of dudes you were going to kill anyways give or take like 5-10 mobs you would have otherwise ignored"
The combat itself was kind of interesting at first, it feels more reactionary than wow in terms of animations though wow does something similar but only on blocking. This does it all the time. No auto attack though which is kind of a downer but ignorable. Without one it makes combat feel more spammy than usual, especially with an obvious latency (which they seem to finally inputted a queue thing for abilities to alleviate that)
Environments were pretty, but nothing really important, like at times you can go "oh that piece of art looks nice" or "this is some nice composition" but in general they either look too busy or they just feel lifeless.
Performance has come along way, it used to run like horseshit but now it runs pretty decently on max settings, and once the debugger is off that should give you like 5-10 fps
There are good ideas such as making companions do the crafting for you, and ala torchlight selling your greys so you don't have to backtrack several times throughout.
The UI is total horseshit though, it's coming along slowly. Can't wait for UI mods to minimalize all the stupid fluff it has going on for the sake of looking unique.
Holocrons in the world (which are really just large maps, not seemless zones like Azeroth) are interesting, but they wanted to keep them a secret because it was a Big Thing. Except even though some are useless to your class everyone's going to want to get ALL OF THEM. Some of them you have to platform a bit to do, which is kind of frustrating at times because of the level design and it's hard to tell where one thing ends that you could walk through to get to something else. It's like putting a flag in ACB that you have to go through a restricted area and up and around some buildings to get only to find it was the next level down.
PVP, other than the fact I hate pvp except as a time waster (lol), was decent on void? (the space ship one) but absolutely terrible on huttball. Like Warsong Gulch bad. We had level 16 vs level 50s in a scaled down version. Of course it doesn't remove their abilities so they'd be using lvl 50 abilities and techniques vs others who don't even have such options. I didn't play the other one
Ship flying was like a retarded star fox that once you get upgrades nothing is a challenge anymore, but until you have upgrades you have to slog through and grind to be able to complete all the challenges instead of just surviving till the end.
Modifications are a good improvement, but now you can reuse mods? even better! I hated wasting a mod only to replace it with my next quest. |
Thnx for your input. For someone never having played WoW i wounder if im gonna like this better as I've nothing to compare with but gonna try it this weekend...
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 09:26 Post subject: |
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wow what a worthless client and whole procedure.. first i had to start client installer maybe 5 times before it actually ran. WHAT ? then after installing, while trying to login client just closed down, then it took another 2 mins before it felt like starting again
now my account needs to finalize something? ialready fucking did.. np, i go where it ask me, and i cant login, my information that worked 10 mins ago is worthless now, yet game client will still need that i need to make final step, and if input random crap it will say wrong info blabla,
but when i request new password nothing happens,
for a game i couldnt givea shit, fuck this crap
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 09:27 Post subject: |
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its obvious now that the stint IS just a simple login load type data parse 
nobody can complain you have not parted with any money yet 
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Nov 2011 10:12 Post subject: |
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ok what's the deal with Client asking me some security key. What security key? Where can I get it?
"Finalize verification for this account" leads to http://www.swtor.com/info/security-key, which redirects to homepage. FFFFuuuuu
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