The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 08:27    Post subject:
Fa4Ta4L wrote:


I would almost be inclined to agree Philosopheraptor But if TES isn't an RPG, what is?


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NecroViolator




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 09:29    Post subject:
Only 9 Keys left at IntKey...

Bought mine yesterday when there was 95...
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 09:36    Post subject:
timechange01 wrote:
Venn wrote:
I took a dive even though I dislike Beth and bought it at intkey for 35 US. Even if I get screwed over in the end it's bound to be an experience!


Intkeys sucks. Theyre gonna give you a Russian key
If you don't check before activating it, yeah they suck, yes it will be a ruskie key and yes you are a lol wut.

If you keep it in your pants and stay put until you know if it's a ruskie key or not, they'll refund you as long as it isn't activated.

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2.1. Returns and refunds:
As for game and software codes once the code has been delivered and used by the customer there is no return or refund of any kind.


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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NecroViolator




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 09:59    Post subject:
Review of IntKeys...

They are supposed to be Legit...
http://www.thegamersblog.com/2011/03/20/intkeys-com-review/
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:11    Post subject:
NecroViolator wrote:
Review of IntKeys...

They are supposed to be Legit...
http://www.thegamersblog.com/2011/03/20/intkeys-com-review/
Well, I got my money back on that BF3 key deal so...


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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inkle




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:12    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
who gives a rats ass about reviews or scores anyway .... The game is only as good as YOU think it when you play it.

a 95% doesnt mean i will actually enjoy or like the game lol (case and point, New Vegas, just couldnt get into it, bored the shit out of me ..).


That is so true.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:17    Post subject:
So I can't even use the Intkeys key to preload, unless some guinea pig tries to activate his? Ah fuck Sad
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psorcerer




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:18    Post subject:
Fa4Ta4L wrote:
But if TES isn't an RPG, what is?


Everybody knows that.
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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:29    Post subject:
Fa4Ta4L wrote:
I'm always a little bit shocked by a response like this. As much as I enjoyed Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, KOTOR, etc., I don't think I'd ever consider the experiences found in those games to be "immersive." Further, so many of the games that my fellow PC gamers consider to be "the best RPG evar kekekeke", I find hard to really call an RPG, because so many of them are party micro-management simulators.


Um, and that's basically what paper RPGs were all about, micro-management. If I had to choose 1 RPG I was most immersed in, I'd choose The Witcher 2, and I'll tell you why in a moment. (protip: no, it's not because I'm Polish)


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Even in newer games with less party-centric approaches, it seems like a very specific character is forced on the player. The Witcher is a perfect example of this problem: A game that trots out the most tired of all literary tropes (hurr durr amnesia), yet still fails completely to allow the player to truly "own" the protagonist.


That's a completely different story. Unlike games based on D&D l, The Witcher (or rather Geralt) IS the guy from the books. You don't create your hero. You are a white-haired monster-slayer with yellow eyes and vertical pupil. You were supposed to play this one character. It's like saying "Well, duuuuh, TW isn't an RPG because you can't be a thief/mage and you don't have a lot of loot with 1923 armors, 2/10".

You own the protagonist in the way you choose the way he thinks, you create a psychological profile of him. You make his decisions and have to bear the consequences.


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I would almost be inclined to agree Philosopheraptor But if TES isn't an RPG, what is?


I never said it wasn't an RPG. And if I had to choose the most immersive, I'd choose Mount&Blade, though it's not an RPG in the traditional sense. If not that, then Witcher 2.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:36    Post subject:
People don't seem to get that "RPG" is very subjective and can be subdivided into various categories. I've played RPGs which were brilliant in the story department, but absolutely sucked in the combat department (and vice versa). I've played RPGs with very little mico-management, but overall which still were deeper than RPGs which leaned heavily on micro-management. I can't name a single game which did almost everything right. It's always funny seeing how people write walls of text to define what an RPG is and what it should be. Morrowind is as much an RPG as Baldur's Gate was, just in two different ways.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:40    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
People don't seem to get that "RPG" is very subjective and can be subdivided into various categories. I've played RPGs which were brilliant in the story department, but absolutely sucked in the combat department (and vice versa). I've played RPGs with very little mico-management, but overall which still were deeper than RPGs which leaned heavily on micro-management. I can't name a single game which did almost everything right. It's always funny seeing how people write walls of text to define what an RPG is and what it should be. Morrowind is as much an RPG as Baldur's Gate was, just in two different ways.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:47    Post subject:
People don't seem to get that when people write a post they should read all of it, except the first two sentences and rage like a fanboy.

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I never said it[TES] wasn't an RPG
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:49    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:50    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
People don't seem to get that when people write a post they should read all of it, except the first two sentences and rage like a fanboy.

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I never said it[TES] wasn't an RPG

It wasn't directed specifically at your post.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:51    Post subject:
From what I read around the Internet its EA whining to Steam about blocking some Keys...

Other than that IntKeys should be legit and a good place for keys...
Thats from what I gather reading on Forums...

My brother buys from G2Playnet (never had a problem), but they are expensive on Skyrim, double the price...
Steam actually doesnt give a shit about where you got the Key, just as long as its Legit...
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:54    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
[quote="Fa4Ta4L"...
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I would almost be inclined to agree Philosopheraptor But if TES isn't an RPG, what is?


I never said it wasn't an RPG. And if I had to choose the most immersive, I'd choose Mount&Blade, though it's not an RPG in the traditional sense. If not that, then Witcher 2.


We may not forget, that Skyrim is the fifth installment of this series and far as we know from the previews Bethesda did not change a lot in terms of gaming mechanics, so we may expect all the features we love or hate: from the character-creation-"tutorial" to the "learning by doing"-skill-system, the open world and the perk-system they transferred from Fallout 3.
There may be a different mainquest, a bigger size and scope and better graphics and hand-crafted dungeons and cities, but the basic gameplay experience will be the same, I presume. We will join factions, fight lots of enemies in realtime with sword, bow or magic, level up, explore dungeons and solve quests.
Sure, its always "more of the same" and familiar (in a good sense), but I think no actual CRPG can re-create a completely new gameplay experience or mechanics ruleset. The genre is rather "old" and even Witcher 2, while representing the opposite concept (rather "straight" storytelling, less freedom and more interactive movie feeling) is not the "revolution" it would like to be. Neither will be Skyrim.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:55    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 10:57    Post subject:
^ Hot linking!
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 11:00    Post subject:
Wish they'd release a few trailers for max hype in the last days. Such a long time til friday dammit.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 11:35    Post subject:
think of it that way: when was Skyrim announced? Now from that point it was a looong wait. But now - ONLY few days remaining! So Much Win
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 11:50    Post subject:
Awesome
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Acer




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 12:34    Post subject:
to those who've played this on the xbox, is it more oblivion or morrowind?


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 12:38    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
to those who've played this on the xbox, is it more oblivion or morrowind?


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I don't want to know the answer hahah. Don't kill my enthusiasm before I get it, damnit!
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 12:56    Post subject:
Damn cool...
Random Quests and Random Dungeons...

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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 13:02    Post subject:
still not leaked? :'( getting bored with bf3


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 13:03    Post subject:
mtj wrote:
still not leaked? :'( getting bored with bf3

Yeah, me too, but that's just maybe becouse i know skyrim is near, that's what's bothering me most... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 13:13    Post subject:
It will not leak, PC review-versions are all individually marked. Which means that only retail will be released.


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 13:16    Post subject:
They all go to the same Steam subscription however (Which I mentioned before.) so the files would be untraceable as those are all identical, disc isn't needed for anything.
(Unless it's CEG and the exe has that personalized data but that's easy to avoid.)

(Or one could always do a copy or image of the disc.)
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 13:26    Post subject:
I try hard not to keep playing the xbox version, can't wait ^^


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Nov 2011 13:27    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
timechange01 wrote:
Venn wrote:
I took a dive even though I dislike Beth and bought it at intkey for 35 US. Even if I get screwed over in the end it's bound to be an experience!


Intkeys sucks. Theyre gonna give you a Russian key
If you don't check before activating it, yeah they suck, yes it will be a ruskie key and yes you are a lol wut.

If you keep it in your pants and stay put until you know if it's a ruskie key or not, they'll refund you as long as it isn't activated.

Quote:
2.1. Returns and refunds:
As for game and software codes once the code has been delivered and used by the customer there is no return or refund of any kind.

35$ vs 12$
Mind Is Full Of Fuck

And people still buy russian keys from intkeys??? I can get you the same keys for 12$ because I have that russain "paypal" thing.
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