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difm




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 07:21    Post subject:
Bohemia Games are not for everyone, so we should all try ourselves.

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 07:46    Post subject:
why is it "bad" ?
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flappy




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 08:20    Post subject:
It's not. It's actually a very good sim.
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xxax
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 10:22    Post subject:
pikachupi wrote:
xxax wrote:
Downloaded, installed (took forever), played 5 minuted, uninstalled.


so bad? Sad


Not my cup of tea...
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 10:41    Post subject:
xxax wrote:

Not my cup of tea...


I guess you don't like Flying sim's at all Rolling Eyes
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logimen




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 12:15    Post subject:
Dont worry guys. Reloaded version is inproper craced. After flying few missions (career, challenges etc.) FADE turned on. Now u can fly about only 1-2min and voila..."Bohemia Interactive presents" and then screen looks like ripples on the water.

Waiting for fix

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jermore




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 12:19    Post subject:
logimen wrote:
Dont worry guys. Reloaded version is inproper craced. After flying few missions (career, challenges etc.) FADE turned on. Now u can fly about only 1-2min and voila..."Bohemia Interactive presents" and then screen looks like ripples on the water.

Waiting for fix


Big surprise. Reloaded should know better with FADE.

Is this comparable to blackshark for flying?
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Roger_Young




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 12:20    Post subject:
logimen wrote:
Dont worry guys. Reloaded version is inproper craced. After flying few missions (career, challenges etc.) FADE turned on. Now u can fly about only 1-2min and voila..."Bohemia Interactive presents" and then screen looks like ripples on the water.

Waiting for fix

I told. Wink

I would like to hear some more opinions, before buying it.
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 12:28    Post subject:
jermore wrote:
logimen wrote:
Dont worry guys. Reloaded version is inproper craced. After flying few missions (career, challenges etc.) FADE turned on. Now u can fly about only 1-2min and voila..."Bohemia Interactive presents" and then screen looks like ripples on the water.

Waiting for fix


Big surprise. Reloaded should know better with FADE.

Is this comparable to blackshark for flying?


In their nfo they say protection:securom serial...They forgot(?) about FADE.
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Nosmirchjgkjhghjg




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 12:47    Post subject:
logimen wrote:

Waiting for fix


Fix is $29.99 to your local game store Wink
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difm




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 13:06    Post subject:
29 dollars?
Lol it's 40€ on Sprocket.

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 15:51    Post subject:
are there missions? how are they?
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difm




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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 16:48    Post subject:
Releoded has FADE so we can't just try yet .

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 18:20    Post subject:
probably fix will come soon
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 10:30    Post subject:
Anyword yet on a updated fix? I'm quite enjoying this one.
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 10:58    Post subject:
Nothing so far. I think there won't be anything at all.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 20:57    Post subject:
Take.On.Helicopters.NFOFix-RELOADED
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 20:57    Post subject:
Take.On.Helicopters.NFOFix-RELOADED not found the actual nfo

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demde




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 21:00    Post subject:
Ops need edit.

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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 21:05    Post subject:
I strongly doubt that a serial change can prevent FADE from kicking in again.

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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 21:22    Post subject:
fearwhatnow wrote:
I strongly doubt that a serial change can prevent FADE from kicking in again.
for now yes but after patch this key will be blacklisted


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Nov 2011 21:22    Post subject:
NFOfix Reaction
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 17:35    Post subject:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/6714/

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TAKE ON HELICOPTERS patch 1.02

HIGHLIGHTS
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* Career finances tuned
* Helicopter inspection improved
* Scenarios / contracts tweaked

ENGINE CHANGELOG
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* IGUI: speed vector now shows more accurately where the helicopter is headed
* Precise actions on objects were not correctly detected at all angles
* Shadows on alpha planes handled better (e.g. helipads)
* Ambient road traffic loading optimized
* Water surfaces at high altitudes would sometimes be completely white
* Crash opportunity fixed in Picture-in-Picture
* AI is no longer able to fly with a damaged main rotor
* Fixed interpolation of visual states (rockets firing from rotor)

DATA CHANGELOG
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* Inspection points and animations tuned for all helicopters
* Certain helicopter variants are now prevented from spawning in ambient systems in Seattle
* Heavy: hand was covering gunner view at some angles
* Heavy: pilot was sunk in his seat slightly
* Heavy: Engine and nose hatches now animate
* Manager skin pigmentation tuned
* Player skinning on his jacket and neck tuned
* Seattle: ambient road definition tuned
* Shadow on the helipads is drawn correctly
* Heliport: tasks and actions were not added after completing the Career
* Heliport: reward after completing the Career: $300000
* Heliport: Partridge visited one contract too soon
* Heliport: tasks and actions were available while fading to / from black
* Heliport: Partridge did not have the correct character identity
* Heliport: saving / resuming disabled
* Heliport: player was not able to sell any helicopter
* Heliport: after inspecting a component on an undamaged helicopter, the maintenance report would no longer show the helicopter status correctly
* Heliport: after inspecting a component with several inspection points, they were updated in sequence instead of at once
* Heliport: Coast Guard Medium livery added
* Heliport: missing line breaks in maintenance reports
* Time Trials: path markers added
* Time Trials: problem with disappearing waypoint indicators corrected
* Time Trials: broken color code format in overviews
* Training: last conversation was often cut off by the scenario ending
* Training: Voice-Over for "I'll give you control in 5..4..3..2..1" added that plays when countdown is displayed
* Training: Voice-Over added for "I'll take back the control of the helicopter
* Training: pausing at the end of any stage removed. Now the player passes control back to instructor
* Training: narrative outro plays correctly when mission ends (from Career)
* Training: disabled buttons in info pages were not working correctly
* Slingload PiP help is now displayed only when near cargo
* Generic contract rewards increased
* Helicopter damage was not stored correctly between contracts
* BIS_fnc_isLocalized function no longer shows RPT error
* "Again" button was not working in intro pause menu
* Career 02: system marker was visible
* Career 08: Heliport outro needed one sentence to be removed
* Career 08: Radio filter removed from Heliport conversations
* Career 08: Jumping container
* Career 10: Player can no longer get in helicopter as co-pilot
* Career 10: Get in waypoint was not placed on helicopter
* Memory 03: Player was flying incorrect helicopter type
* Memory 03: Cpt. Pierce sometimes died before saying his last sentence
* Memory 03: Cpt. Pierce sometimes got out of helicopter after landing
* Corporations 01: Space Needle torch was duplicate after load
* Corporations 01: Fuel station disabled
* MP 01: All contestants now properly end the mission, rather than the last one to finish the race
* MP 01: Position notification upon completing a lap corrected
* MP 01: Spectating no longer shows finished or disqualified contestants
* MP 01: Stats display improved
* MP 02: JIP handling improved
* MP 02: Evacuees will get into all helicopters, not just the hosts
* MP 02: Evacuees can be rescued on foot now
* MP 02: Winching disabled until made MP compatible
* MP 02: Team-tracking markers added to map
* MP 02: New/improved parameters
* MP 03: Cargo handling improved
* MP 03: AA-threat spawning improved
* MP 03: Briefing improved

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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 17:37    Post subject:
Quote:
Heavy: pilot was sunk in his seat slightly

Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 17:49    Post subject:
and nfofix keys are surely blacklisted again

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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Nov 2011 20:24    Post subject:
demde wrote:
Ops need edit.


One more edit needed, you missed the registry keys Wink

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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 18:17    Post subject:
I finally tried this. Ugh. I don't think it looks good. I don't think it runs terribly well. And it flies like SHIT. You must need a beast of a computer, which mine admittedly is NOT, to run this and have it look and run like their previews. But even then it doesn't excuse the flight modeling. Oh well. Time to uninstall. Smile
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Immunity




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 20:39    Post subject:
I've never understood why flight simulators (all of them in recent memory actually - everything from Lock On, to MS Flight Simulator, to this) run like complete ass.

They certainly have never been up to snuff graphically speaking. Whenever you got low the textures on the terrain/buildings were horribly low res, and buildings more or less look like 1995 era cardboard boxes with paint. So GPU load is out of the question.

As far as CPU load - well, you've got your own plane's flight physics, other planes (which most of those are off screen for the duration of the mission, so I'm sure massively simplified physics can be used), and the enemy. Until you actually engage the enemy, they either sit there, or are in some sort of A to B movement or patrol route. Again, nothing demanding there that a modern CPU shouldn't be able to breeze through.

Then you've got a flight game like H.A.W.X. - which is by no means in any way a sim, that is miles better graphically and performs flawlessly on the same machine that simulators chewed up and spit out.

Granted, you are flying in a set area (small box by comparison), instead of a massive map, but the A.I. is more or less the same. I can't imagine texture streaming in the rest of the map could be that complicated if they so chose.

Are all of these sim companies hiring shitty coders? Do they not bother optimizing it at all? What gives?
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 20:43    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
I've never understood why flight simulators (all of them in recent memory actually - everything from Lock On, to MS Flight Simulator, to this) run like complete ass.

Physics. Simple as that. The physics models in some of these games are orders of magnitude more complicated than you'd get in something like HAWX. They're modelling physics calculations for individual components, sometimes. It's not just a box moving around the sky.
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Mar 2012 21:18    Post subject:
Cedge wrote:
Immunity wrote:
I've never understood why flight simulators (all of them in recent memory actually - everything from Lock On, to MS Flight Simulator, to this) run like complete ass.

Physics. Simple as that. The physics models in some of these games are orders of magnitude more complicated than you'd get in something like HAWX. They're modelling physics calculations for individual components, sometimes. It's not just a box moving around the sky.

Exactly.
Hawx is just a fps shooter inside a plane. It can't be compared with any flight simulator.
Like you can't compare CoD or Halo with ArmA.
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