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Kayne

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:22 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

ugh, looks like he got caught time to F5 the hell out of that site again and look for something that resembles skyrim from what I saw though, the game looks decent even on xbox. It definitely raised my hopes after seeing that horrible leaked YT vid.

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Kem0sabe

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:30 Post subject:

BettyShikle wrote:

omg everything there is soooo shiny

After watching these xbox feeds, this is clearly the oblivion engine, it doesnt even look like an improvement, after all these years.

I truly hope the pc version looks better, because this version looks like a bloomy piece of crap... visualy.

Gameplay wise, melee as expected is horrible, with the added horror of finishing moves that look like they were lifted directly from FO3.

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LMLM

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:31 Post subject:

Radicalus wrote:

LMLM wrote:

Radicalus wrote:

If anything, it's more dumbed down than Oblivion.!

How so? I'm not seeing that. Oblivion was dumbed down a whole lot, had bad combat and a generic world. Skyrim looks like a huge improvement in almost every way. I see it as a solid evolution in the series.

Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.

I didn't ask you. Epic fail on your comparison too. The combat that I played in Risen was worse than Oblivion. Ironic too that it was the poor combat in Risen that I grew so tired of that I uninstalled the game.

From what I've seen so far, Skyrim has good combat.

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:42 Post subject:

LMLM wrote:

I didn't ask you. Epic fail on your comparison too. The combat that I played in Risen was worse than Oblivion.

Sorry, but Laughing

Risen's combat is much MUCH better than Oblivion's.

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apcarr

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:43 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Well I've been playing it for the last couple of hours (I know I know but I couldnt wait!) and its fantastic even on the 360,Graphically its far superior to Oblivion and the combat is great to imo..deffo game of the year material.Can't wait for the PC version.

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sabin1981
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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:51 Post subject:

tonizito wrote:

LMLM wrote:

I didn't ask you. Epic fail on your comparison too. The combat that I played in Risen was worse than Oblivion.

Sorry, but Laughing

Risen's combat is much MUCH better than Oblivion's.

lolwutno. Risen's combat is every bit as shitty as Oblivion's. Left, left, left, left, left, left, left again to loot the body.

Laughing

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Kem0sabe

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:53 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Any word if there will be multiple endings / paths through the main quest / side quests? I know this series has never been known for this type of gameplay, but one can only hope.

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W123

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Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 23:55 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Not quite. There was quite a bit of dodging involved too or you'd get torn apart Gothic 2 style. I dont even know why the two games are being compared to be honest, just two different takes on what action-rpg combat should be like. Thank fuck all games don't have similar combat.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:05 Post subject:

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Not quite. There was quite a bit of dodging involved too or you'd get torn apart Gothic 2 style.

Yeah.
Although Oblivion did have something of sorts associated with acrobatics.

Sabin's just jelly that he had trouble against 3 boars in Risen. Cool Face

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sabin1981
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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:07 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Damn those boars

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human_steel

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:11 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Wow, 3 boars. Must've been a massacre.

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sabin1981
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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:12 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

It was actually six, but yeah. I feasted well that night.

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scaramonga

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:16 Post subject:

Frantik wrote:

Are you using a currency converter or what?

Price at intkeys from my end is $34.99 US which converts to 21.8932 GBP using XE.

And that's before using any discount codes.

Nope. That is the cost when I select UK/£.

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si110

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:17 Post subject:

LMLM wrote:

Radicalus wrote:

LMLM wrote:

Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.

I didn't ask you.

But, you did!!

W123

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:52 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

where dem Intkeys discount codes at?

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briangw

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:57 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Risen put me to sleep within the first hour of play. Bring on Skyrim!

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vurt

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 00:57 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

wasnt too impressed by the livestream. but whatever, modders unite - we have work to do! Skyrim (2011): http://i40.tinypic.com/106zzfk.png Morrowind (2002): http://piclair.com/data/y4oen.jpg (yeah i know, not entirely fair... to poor old Morrowind )

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:01 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

Just watched some videos, why the character shouts ANUS when casting spells, also why there is that retarded slow motion kill cam Looks like some mod of Fallout 3. Last edited by Breezer_ on Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:02; edited 1 time in total

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:01 Post subject:

briangw wrote:

Risen put me to sleep within the first hour of play. Bring on Skyrim!

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:04 Post subject:	Quick Quote Quote

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Slizza

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:09 Post subject:

scaramonga wrote:

Frantik wrote:

Are you using a currency converter or what?

Price at intkeys from my end is $34.99 US which converts to 21.8932 GBP using XE.

And that's before using any discount codes.

Nope. That is the cost when I select UK/£.

Then don't select £ then Smile

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scaramonga

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:26 Post subject:

Slizza wrote:

Then don't select £ then Smile

Yeah lol

I'm a bit wary ordering through Intkeys, as they still do not know if the Skyrim keys are gonna be region free or whatever yet. They say they will refund if region locked, but its just a pain in the ass. Rather pay a couple of quid more to get a guaranteed EU version.

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:27 Post subject:

iNatan wrote:

briangw wrote:

Risen put me to sleep within the first hour of play. Bring on Skyrim!

Indeed

. Risen's first half was really exceptional Smile

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Radicalus

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 01:33 Post subject:

LMLM wrote:

Radicalus wrote:

LMLM wrote:

Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.

No need to get personal and nasty here. Last I checked, this was a forum, and you're simply bound to run in to opinions you don't agree with.

I mentioned Risen, because if I remember correctly, in g1/2 mobs didn't randomize their attack patterns (or not enough), and as such, someone, who studied them enough, could beat any mob with ease with 100% success ratio. Risen did mix stuff up a bit, and you needed a bit more reflex and safety.

Anyway, it was an active combat system, where you had to react to what the enemy is doing, not just block/attack, but dodge as well, charging attacks and parrying. And all of that timed well. From what we know, Risen will even deepen it with dirty tricks, and that sounds great.

To me, Oblivion's was the combat, that was a bore.

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fawe4

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 03:02 Post subject: v	Quick Quote Quote

Both Piranha Bytes and Bethesda games have somewhat limiting combat. I think both systems are good at start, but you always get to a point where you have most success just mashing buttons. Generally Gothic/Risen games have better melee and Elder Scrolls better magic system. Again nothing spectacular, ideally I'd love to have Baldurs Gate/Icewind Dale magic system with Mount & Blade melee, but who knows if that could even work.

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LMLM

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Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2011 03:18 Post subject:

si110 wrote:

LMLM wrote:

Radicalus wrote:

Combat is very simplified, if you ask me, especially in comparison to good melee combat systems, like Risen's.

I didn't ask you.

But, you did!!

Oh, yeah, I did. lol sorry Radicalus. Well, you didn't answer the question as to exactly why the combat is simplified, just stated an opinion. nuff said anyway.