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NFOAC
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No its only when you dump the nand ill be able to find out
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 12:48 Post subject: |
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That's unfortunate... it can't even be checked by comparing the console's manufacture date?
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 12:52 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 13:48 Post subject: |
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I just checked the console I'm about to mod.
According to the power connectors on the motherboard it's a falcon.
So I should be good.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2011 12:25 Post subject: |
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FUUUUU. The shops here charge 100€ for applying the glitch hack... :/
But I don't think I will be able to this myself... Probably best to wait a bit until maybe prices come down a bit...
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
- Albert Camus
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2011 17:51 Post subject: |
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rgh costs in poland 60 euro
stop pressing F5 get a Life !
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BLaM!
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2011 18:49 Post subject: |
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Bah , prices are probably similiar here , don't have the money right now..will do it when the time comes.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2011 19:02 Post subject: |
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if u have some soldering skills its cheap. matrix glitcher is about 19 euros. the wire etc to dump the nand can also be homemade.
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BLaM!
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| Posted: Mon, 31st Oct 2011 19:14 Post subject: |
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I understand , but Im not into that stuff..never tried to solder anything , so no skills.. 
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doobzilla
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 14:16 Post subject: |
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| Shawn_Hunter wrote: | Will be heading out this weekend to get the glitch done from a professional modder. What back up do I ask him for? My original NAND file? What else?
Also, how would I update my dashboard later on? Is it mandatory to have your NAND back up for it? I hope I don't need to go back to this person, once the glitch is performed.
Deelix, get your ass in here and explain how it's done.  |
I haven't RGH'd any consoles yet, but I have done several JTAGs. That being said, when I need to update a dash, I start with my original NAND, then I use one of the programs that are available to create the hacked NAND (I've been trying out the Multi-builder from Rogero, and once I have my hardware, I'll know if it's any good). Once I have the .bin file that this creates, I'll flash it to the console with a Nand-x or homemade cable. Once flashed, you should be able to use Flash360 (or any of the other available NAND flashing-from-360 tools available) to reflash any new dashboards to your NAND.
In other words:
1. Get console flashed/hacked professionally
2. Get backup copy of your NANDdump.bin (or whatever it's called)
3. Play to your heart's content
4. When an update becomes available (from the scene, not M$), obtain software to create NAND image and create it
5. Flash to your 360 using the Flash360 software (as it runs on the 360).
6. Enjoy playing again.
Of course, the one caveat here is if you don't build your image correctly, you will have to either take it back to your pro, or purchase a NAND-x/build the cable, and flash it from a PC. So, consider yourself warned that if you mess it up, you will have to spend more money, either in getting it flashed or getting a new box (usually only if you flash the wrong image to the NAND, i.e. a Jasper to a Falcon, which is usually still recoverable without the need to remove the chip and reprogram on the bench).
Don't be scared, as that will definitely screw you. Just read read read read read read read read, and all will be fine. There are always tutorials out there that cover pretty much every contingency, so don't worry about that.
Hope this helps!
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 14:48 Post subject: |
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Csn you clarify point 5 when u say flash to 360 does it means opening the console again or just via usb?
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 16:14 Post subject: |
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| NFOAC wrote: | | Csn you clarify point 5 when u say flash to 360 does it means opening the console again or just via usb? |
The first time you get your hacked dashboard on the console and flash it, you console would have to be opened for obvious reasons. Once the hacked dash is on there all future updates can be done with Flash 360 and a USB stick without opening the console.
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 17:37 Post subject: |
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Thanks for clarifying I was concerned of opening the console again and again.
EDIT- I'm not really sure here but where exactly is dashboard installed ? in 512MB Jasper memory ? or HDD what if that goes kaput ?
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cobALT
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 17:48 Post subject: |
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The same place it is right now: on the console. Not sure if that is the NAND or something like that, I don't know the technical stuff so I don't want say anything too stupid/false.
Point is, if you remove all storage devices from the x360, you still have a dashboard on it so the same applies for JTAG/RGH; with a hacked dash.
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doobzilla
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 17:54 Post subject: |
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| NFOAC wrote: | Thanks for clarifying I was concerned of opening the console again and again.
EDIT- I'm not really sure here but where exactly is dashboard installed ? in 512MB Jasper memory ? or HDD what if that goes kaput ? |
The Dashboard is stored on the NAND. If the HDD goes kaput, you will merely lose your save games, assuming that you have them saved to the mechanical HDD instead of a solid state usb/memory card/internal NAND(if you have the 512MB NAND, that is, because it also acts as an internal memory unit for the arcade units afaik, since I don't have one of them).
edit: ninja'd
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cobALT
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 18:28 Post subject: |
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doobzilla
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 19:04 Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot doob. Appreciate it. Just to confirm once again, all I would need is the back up of my original NAND file and then no further hardware would be required for the dashboard update correct?
Also, do we have an alternative method on JTAG like patching the XeX of a game to work on a lower dashboard? If yes, then what's the drawback with such a method?
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 19:49 Post subject: |
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Yes, all you need is your original NAND and a freeboot maker tool like Jtagtool.
Updating dash launch allowed me to play all the newest games on 12625 Dash for the longest time. But with new games like Forza, and BF3. I updated to newest dash.
Its only nerve racking the first time you update via USBt. I was nervous, and i have a Nand-X to reflash as i built many JTAGS. But its really easy with Flash 360. Took me like 15 min.
All the hard work is done for you with tools like Jtagtool.
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Grale
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cobALT
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:51 Post subject: |
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Oh boy! Noob questions incoming: What's a bad block? Can it be fixed?
About 1 year ago, after I got banned, I've send my box to my modder guy to get back the HDD install feature. He send it back, telling me that it didn't work - something about "sec data.bin" corrupted, if I remember correctly - and said that it can happen sometimes and it nothing to worry about, just no HDD install (this was back in the day, before Microsoft removed that limitation with the 2010 spring patch). And seeing how I'm "blessed" with the E81 error upon 13599 update too, I wonder if that has anything to do with it. Though every other dash update went fine before, and I've don quite a few until now.
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Nov 2011 21:56 Post subject: |
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Bad blocks are just remapped, and shouldn't cause the errors you are seeing.
They can be a real pain in the ass. Out off all my jtags i have done (About 10) i have only encountered one with bad blocks in the Nand and it was a zepher.
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Grale
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2011 17:08 Post subject: |
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Final questions before glitch happens this weekend.
1.what are the chances of jasper 512 purchased last year mfg date 2010 July having a non explotiable cb.
2.what's the original frefreeboot eboot image is it necessary to build a new dashboard once a new dashboard comes out or we just use the dashboard released by hackers and its prepatched
3.where should the xxmenu be installed also dashlaunch and fsd on that 512 mb memory or hdd? Currently I have 20gb hdd but would be planning to use 500 gb external drive once glitch is done.
4.what's the speed difference while loading the games from usb external compared to sata hdd recommended, highly recommended or does not makes difference.
5.what tools should I get to transfer data extract iso which would also remove extra features I.e languages, dlc unlocker and xbla unlocker
I know the list is long bit better to clear my doubts also I'm gonna ask the modder to provide cpu key original nand dump and freeboot image anything else should I ask for? Apart from games
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deelix
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NFOAC
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2011 18:26 Post subject: |
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Grale?
Also would.like to know what should be the ideal temp for jasper after glitch
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Grale
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2011 18:52 Post subject: |
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| NFOAC wrote: | Grale?
Also would.like to know what should be the ideal temp for jasper after glitch |
Don't worry about temps if it's a Jasper, they are pretty much bomb proof mate. Jaspers dont have the rrod problem.
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