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akvma
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:34    Post subject:
"r_swapinterval 1" works fine until you alt+tab, then you have to enter it again in the console.

Werelds wrote:
Oh well, guess I gotta wait for a patch to make my sound work. Tried onboard instead of my X-Fi, no joy. Would've been awesome if that had fixed it, first game ever to break because of having an X-Fi.


i have a xtreme gamer and i have no sound issues with this game.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:35    Post subject:
Either way, drivers fault or not, to me this really shows that they did very little (or none at all) Q&A on the PC.
Or they did and really don't give a fuck about the PC version, which is probably the case.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:41    Post subject:
well i don`t know.. i`ve read the problems most people have with the game and it sucks, but i support the idea that a new graphics driver would solve some problems. the ONLY problem i have with the game is the one where textures load 1 sec after i turn around. besides that the game looks and runs perfectly. yet again i`m with GTX 560 1 GB on a 2core 64 bit win 7 with 4 GB RAM.

and kudos for the enemies! i love the style bandits dodge your bullets and YEEEEEEEEY --- the headshot is a headshot once again! just love the stopping power a bullet in the left eye has! or the way you can see the top of the bandits head when he is hiding behind a crate ... then the red cloud and then the lifeless hand on the left of the crate... nice.

but still, for me this is Borderlands through the eyes of Bethseda. which is NOT a bad thing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:45    Post subject:
No QA was done. Even if it was driver issues on NVIDIA/AMD's side (as far as the graphics go anyway), the game has been gold for so long that both of them would've fixed that by now had Bethesda/id bothered to do some QA and report their findings to NVIDIA/AMD.

I wish everyone looking forward to Skyrim a lot of fun, considering how shit Gamebryo is and how shit Oblivion was at release that should be quite amusing. I have very little interest in that one anyway (not a fan of Oblivion at all) so I'm not bothered, but good luck to you all Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:46    Post subject:
noflip wrote:
well i don`t know.. i`ve read the problems most people have with the game and it sucks, but i support the idea that a new graphics driver would solve some problems. the ONLY problem i have with the game is the one where textures load 1 sec after i turn around. besides that the game looks and runs perfectly. yet again i`m with GTX 560 1 GB on a 2core 64 bit win 7 with 4 GB RAM.

and kudos for the enemies! i love the style bandits dodge your bullets and YEEEEEEEEY --- the headshot is a headshot once again! just love the stopping power a bullet in the left eye has! or the way you can see the top of the bandits head when he is hiding behind a crate ... then the red cloud and then the lifeless hand on the left of the crate... nice.

but still, for me this is Borderlands through the eyes of Bethseda. which is NOT a bad thing.


my system is the same as yours (32 bit os+3gb ram) and me too only suffer of the late pop texteres, but els, game runs perfect.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:47    Post subject:
Ne1 has received a message about profits not saved because console is active?. Just when you finish mission 1.

Ne1 one could help me about this? Thanx in advance
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:50    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
No QA was done.


Then no QA was done on Deus Ex: Human Revolution either. See the widespread stuttering problem that they didn't see at all, during the production.
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Hierofan
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 09:55    Post subject:
Finished, deleted, and that's that.
Driver San Francisco was more enjoyable.. alot more..


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:01    Post subject:
Hierofan wrote:
Finished, deleted, and that's that.
Driver San Francisco was more enjoyable.. alot more..

how can someone enjoy driver.. that game feel like it was made for smartphones.. because its that bad
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:03    Post subject:
Runs perfectly fine on my old antiquated rig no vrashes or slowdowns or stuttering , the backgrounds do take about half a second to fill properly ( probably not even that but you can see them fill ) and with so many problems on so many other rigs i seriously doubt its driver related and more towards sloppy work by Id.
For a AAA title this is very very poor, a lot of textures look like crap even when theyve had time to fill and the gameplay is pretty poor from multiple headshots to kill to really bad driving controls add onto that that weve already seen this so many times before with the newest being Borderlands its not worth the price , in 6 months with DLC and Mods it maybe a good game but for now im pretty glad i didnt waste my hard earned cash on it Sad.

With so many issues i doubt any QA was done at all it must have been a very very rare PC that this game was tested on as through everyone on here i wouldnt be surprised if nearly every base configuration has been covered.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:09    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Werelds wrote:
No QA was done.


Then no QA was done on Deus Ex: Human Revolution either. See the widespread stuttering problem that they didn't see at all, during the production.

Not enough QA was done on DX:HR - I was lucky enough to have 0 issues. That was a game issue, not a driver issue. Difference is that they acknowledged it. And fixed it.

Are you really that naive though consolitis? Do you truly, honestly believe that this game got the attention on the PC it needed? I've already pointed out tons of technicalities which simply can not be caused by drivers and are just obvious results of them not testing and developing it properly.

I'm sure NVIDIA and AMD will find fixes for SOME of the fuckups, but the texture pop-in is as much a game issue as it is in the drivers (although the driver issue is caused by them accessing stuff that isn't there). Like I said, they're hardly using the resources available; because of their failure to detect VRAM CPU usage is also much higher than it should be.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:19    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Werelds wrote:
No QA was done.


Then no QA was done on Deus Ex: Human Revolution either. See the widespread stuttering problem that they didn't see at all, during the production.

Not enough QA was done on DX:HR - I was lucky enough to have 0 issues. That was a game issue, not a driver issue. Difference is that they acknowledged it. And fixed it.


Maybe I am the lucky one in this case as I have 0 issues with Rage as well. No crashes, no black patches, no terrible performance, nothing. I DO have some minor stuttering in Deus Ex even today.

Their stuttering fix was released on September 16. The game came out on August 23. It took them 3 weeks, but that's ok since it didn't affect you - Rage has been released for 3 days only, but that's terrible Laughing

Werelds wrote:
Are you really that naive though consolitis?


No comment Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:20    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
consolitis wrote:
Werelds wrote:
No QA was done.


Then no QA was done on Deus Ex: Human Revolution either. See the widespread stuttering problem that they didn't see at all, during the production.

Not enough QA was done on DX:HR - I was lucky enough to have 0 issues. That was a game issue, not a driver issue. Difference is that they acknowledged it. And fixed it.
Actually it took them a while to acknowledge and fix it(albeit only somewhat IMO).
And yeah, not enough Q&A was made on that one too but instead of blaming it onthe drivers EM sort most of the problems themselves, and in a timely manner too.

Difference between the two games is that DX: HR's PC version was obviously given some attention from EM, while with RAGE it really doesn't seem the case.
At least so far.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:27    Post subject:
so we can expect new drivers and a patch very soon , does this mean 64bit exe will be out at the same time? i plan to wait till all 3 are out to play through the game.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:36    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
but instead of blaming it onthe drivers EM sort most of the problems themselves


Indeed, oh wait..

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1655251&postcount=2

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This could be an issue in the new drivers from nVidia, it was not an issue in the previous drivers.. We're looking into it..


^ Referring to the most recent drivers of nvidia when the game was released.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1683350&postcount=4

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This new driver update by Nvidia should fix the tesselation problems that players with Nvidia hardware have experienced. We believe it is also expected to fix a large amount of random crashes in the DX11 mode.


http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=1687466&postcount=253

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If you are using Nvidia hardware and DX11 I recommend you try the latest released beta drivers. Nvidia has reported that they fix many stability issues.


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and in a timely manner too.


3 weeks = timely manner
3 days = unacceptable

ok Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:38    Post subject:
Oh and in case some of you didn't figure it out, there's a way to skip NPC's yappin. Just walk away until you can't her them and then go back to them, they skip the convo and you can get their mission.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:40    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:40    Post subject:
2 much reeding, werz teh exploshunz?+ lol wut
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:42    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
Maybe I am the lucky one in this case as I have 0 issues with Rage as well. No crashes, no black patches, no terrible performance, nothing. I DO have some minor stuttering in Deus Ex even today.

Their stuttering fix was released on September 16. The game came out on August 23. It took them 3 weeks, but that's ok since it didn't affect you - Rage has been released for 3 days only, but that's terrible Laughing

No, it wasn't okay, it should've been quicker - never said it was okay either. The issues with this game are much more severe and wide spread (as in the number of different issues, not how many users have it) though.

Given how few people have no glitches at all, this can't be put on anyone but Bethesda/id. Anisotropy doesn't even work properly and I'm pretty sure it doesn't for you either. If it was purely the texture pop-in, then it wouldn't have been a big deal. That's a matter of fixing the config, NVIDIA and AMD will improve some of that as well. It's all the other shit that can't be pinpointed. Everything I see indicates that the engine is accessing parts of the memory it shouldn't be accessing. Turn some random USB device off -> game works. I'm sure that there's something I can unplug to fix my sound issue, but that's not the point. They are doing something wrong, plain and simple. There is no way in hell that a USB headset should cause a game to crash (not using a USB headset myself obviously), that can only happen if the game is messing around in the wrong parts of the RAM, causing access violations.

Edit: and to clarify, the *only* issue I have is that VOICES are fucked up. Environmental sounds and music is fine, it's just the fucking voices. My performance is fine (capped at 60), I have no blocky textures, no flickering, nothing.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:42    Post subject:
Really ? They will release x64 patch ?

Anyway, I really hope they fix their shit within the month. I wanna install this thing and check it out myself !
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:42    Post subject:
does anybody know what this mean?!

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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:43    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
2 much reeding, werz teh exploshunz?+ lol wut

LOLS. It's like he's being made to read 2000-paged books instead of just two-three small paragraphs for each quest. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:44    Post subject:
VGAdeadcafe wrote:
Really ? They will release x64 patch ?

Anyway, I really hope they fix their shit within the month. I wanna install this thing and check it out myself !


Yes, nvidia has added an x64 profile for RAGE to their drivers months ago.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:47    Post subject:
djvelho wrote:
does anybody know what this mean?!

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Legit Steam copy? It means because you're using "com_allowconsole" command, it disabled achievements.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:48    Post subject:
@sabin i got the intkeys.remember? we talk about that another day.
well maybe i delete allow console
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:49    Post subject:
Truth is I played 2 hours straight with no crashes. No problem there !
But is it normal that Dead Island looks so much better than these quakish old fashion graphics ?
even particles look awful
if you look carefully the dead bodies lying on the floor you can tell the difference in polygon count like some adventure games that you play a 3d character on a 2d background !
I was expecting more of ID and Bes.


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:49    Post subject:
I hope they will release x64 executable, I think it may run really good on my Vista Business x64 and ATI Athlon 64 3200+

Cause now it stutters and it doesn't stream the textures good even though I used some custom settings I found for MAX quality.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:50    Post subject:
djvelho wrote:
does anybody know what this mean?!

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Its to stop people cheating to get achievements,simple as that.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:51    Post subject:
djvelho wrote:
@sabin i got the intkeys.remember? we talk about that another day.
well maybe i delete allow console


I wasn't sure if you'd downloaded yet or, like me, were simply finishing your game on the YAARGH version Very Happy But yeah, you'll have to disable console access if you want "cheevos" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Oct 2011 10:56    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Anisotropy doesn't even work properly and I'm pretty sure it doesn't for you either.


There are issues with AF, according to their technical papers. It's an engine limitation.

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They are doing something wrong, plain and simple. There is no way in hell that a USB headset should cause a game to crash (not using a USB headset myself obviously), that can only happen if the game is messing around in the wrong parts of the RAM, causing access violations.


It's a widespread problem in "many, many, MANY" games:

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Alright I found the cause of the constant 4-5 second freezes, it wasn't graphics related it was my piece of shit Logitech G35. Now normally when running one of the (many, many, MANY) games that don't work properly with that dogshit headset you can switch the driver to a default USB driver and get it working at the cost of losing surround sound. Well Rage was freezing up even on the regular USB driver, I disabled the thing entirely and no more random freezes.

Thing is going in the bin and I'm getting a non USB headset tomorrow. What a headache that thing turned out to be.


Did you know you couldn't install Portal 2 on FAT32 partitions for the first 3 weeks of its launch? http://store.steampowered.com/news/5432/

Amazing experience for those that bought the game and have a FAT32 drive; they had to wait 3 weeks to begin playing.

Rage's issues are way overblown. Its launch was rocky, but it's well within what can go wrong with PC gaming.
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